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Finally given in and bought a Hornby King
6892 Oakhill Grange
That's OK. As long as you buy the other one as well.
Horsetan
Good luck with rewheeling that.
The Fatadder
It's for my OO project so no worries there. As for the other one, unless they get rid of that numberplate recess and seriously refine the lining over the 48xx not a chance!