Mrkirtley800

 Very nice layout, Bob, with so much character.

My own layout thread,Midland Railway in EM gauge, could be its twin brother.  We are modelling our layouts based on a similar idea.

Here is a pic of a local stopper entering the down platform at Kirkby Malham.

Derek

Yes, why not scratch build one.  I have now built four over the years, and they are not difficult, and you can build the size you require.

I described the last one in my thread in layout topics — Midland Railway in EM gauge.   It is a 48’ table and installed in my present layout.

 It cost me next to nothing since I built it from bits cluttering up my railway room.

Scratch building a TT is not difficult, just needs a bit of care, like most things we do in our modelling.

Derek

That last pic is so atmospheric.  A wonderful bit of modelling.

Derek

I managed to find my copy of MR Illustrated which features KM mk1,  November1995, 26 years ago 

OMG

Derek

16 minutes ago, Regularity said:

Unfortunately, the laws of this land regarding libel and slander are such that it is not possible to repeat the stories surrounding its brief but troubled existence…

Tell me more.  The original editor, whose name escapes me, created in it a promising publication, but I think  he, sadly, died suddenly and it passed into the hands of someone else, when the quality fell drastically.

I had paid a full years subscription and only received very few mags.

Derek

Hello Martin,

             Thank you for your nice comments.

              My Kirkby Malham Mark 1 appeared in the short lived Modelling Railways Illustrated mag. The layout was built as a branch off our Grassington layout, many years ago.

KM  mk1 was hawked around the exhibition circuit in the 1980s and 90s, before being sold.

Grassington was scrapped in 1985, and Embsay Canal Road was built in its place.  This was a four track roundy secondary main line station layout, with two tracks EM gauge and two 00 gauge ( my youngest sons).  We could operated six trains at any one time, four on the main lines and shunting on both EM and 00.  The noise in our railway room was deafening so that neither I nor Chris heard calls to do the washing up.

Canal Road was the lead article in the Railway Modeller year book for 2015,but the layout became too much when my knees gave up on me.

So it was cut about and converted into the layout we have  now.

The present Kirkby Malham is not yet complete enough for featuring in a mag.  The final scenic board requires a fair bit of work, then I need some sort of backscene for the last three scenic boards.

Many of the locomotives and much of the rolling stock appeared on all these layouts.  It is all, like me, getting long in the tooth.

Some pics of KM mk1 are included in this thread in the early pages.

Derek

Hello Crimson Rambler, yes it is OK by me for you to go into detail of what is one of my favourite engines.  I have to admit, I have no idea what you are talking about, but the bits I have picked up are fascinating.

Derek

 Looks very nice indeed

Hello Rowsley,  what is the type of chimneyin your kit.  In my period, many of the old Midland engines sported the lovely Johnson chimney.

K’s did a nice one in cast white metal, and many years ago I bought a good stock, which now, sadly, are all gone.

There are some very nice cast or turned brass which are advertised as the Johnson type, but they are more like the parallel chimneys of Deeley and Fowler, certainly not got the curves of Johnson’s design.

Derek

Hello Rowsley 17D, I lusted after one of these 0-4-4s ever since I was at school.  I bought a Model Railway News in 1953 and on the front was a layout by Frank Roomes called Lutton, and there in the foreground a Midland 0-4-4 well tank.  It wasn’t until I was married with a house of my own that I bought a drawing of one of these locos by JAN Maskeline, editor of MRN.

Unfortunately Maskeline made some mistakes in the drawing, which I, in my ignorance, knew nothing about.

  I started scratch building my loco in 1966.  Used Romford wheels and a Triang XT 60 motor.  It was later painted by Larry Goddard and ran many miles until the motor gave up.  By then, compensation and Mashima motors were available, so I rebuilt the engine using Gibson wheels, compensation and a 1024 motor, no gearbox though, perhaps that will come on its next rebuilding, whenever that might be.

Maskeline did a large number of drawings, all to fit on a size of paper.  The 0-4-4 was scaled at 10 mm/ foot, so was easy to convert

 The 2-4-0 800 class drawing worked out at something like 8.23 mm/foot, so out came the slide rule, no calculators then.

I built a well tank and 800 class in 00 for Larry.  He eventually sold them on.

I wonder where they are now?

Derek

Thank you for your comments D.  In  my ignorance, when first starting to build the Jidenco kit, I went ahead blithely putting together footplate and frames.  It was only after I built the mainframes and put the wheels on that I discovered the outside frames were not identical, so, the axles were not in the middle of the cut outs.  It was probably my fault for not checking, but had to slice thefootplate in half longitudinally, and solder it back again so that it fitted mainframes.  File the front and rear so that everything was square and fill in with small strips on nickel so that it was the correct length.

It is all so long ago, but that kit has stuck in my mind.  Certainly, it spent more time in its box than being built.  As Ian Rice said, “Jidenco kits are scratch builders aids”

If anyone has been sent me any pm’,s,  I can’t get my iPad to access them.  Something seems to have changed,  and if Andy York reads this, will he please get in touch.  I need some assistance.

Derek

I cannot access any pms.  It has suddenly happened.  All was OK last month.  Any ideas?

Derek

Thanks Andy.  I very rarely fall over or trip, but when I do, I usually jump up and carry on doing what I was doing.  Years ago, I was standing on top of the deep freeze doing some electrical work on the ceiling when I fell off, straight on to my left shoulder, but got up, rubbed the sore bit and climbed back on the freezer to complete the job. Am I an idiot, or what?

Its OK D, I like to reply to people pretty quickly.  This time I don’t have an option with my eagle eyed wife behind me.  I have to behave.  I am owing Douglas of Florence Locomotive Works a reply to a request.  As soon as Ican get into my drawings etc I can reply.

Derek

Tony,

      Some piccies of my youngest sons 0 gauge carriages, with two more on the stocks

Derek

16 hours ago, t-b-g said:

 

Thanks Derek.

 

Mine was probably a more recent kit and came with alternative parts for round top or Belpaire fireboxes. It also had a nice set of etched nickel silver frames.

 

They must be far more well liked in model form than the prototype locos seem to have been but they are not the easiest with that huge rear overhang.

 

Whose Midland Red do you use? You must have put it on here before somewhere but I don't recall. I have a few MR locos to make to haul the carriages I now have that were from the late Sid Stubbs and your loco looks a very good match for what he used.

 

Cheers

 

Tony

I use Damask Red, which was, I think, a BritishLeyland colour.

My youngest son has built a number or Midland carriages in 0 gauge, and painted them using this colour from a spray can, and they look superb.

Derek

On 15/06/2021 at 12:50, t-b-g said:

Another one to add to the Flatiron collection. This was one I built to replace one that had sadly been pinched at an exhibition.

 

It should be possible to tell that it is in EM Gauge from the rather well known layout it was posed on for the photos.

 

The basic camera and the poor lighting in the shed combine to make the colours look a bit odd. They are better in "real life".

 

That is a very nice model, Tony.

My effort is very similar.  I used the tank sides and footplate from the kit, fashioned the boiler out of tube to give me a model of the engine as built and running in 1907/08, with a round top firebox and a saturated engine  (smokebox flush with the front of the tanks).

I scratch built the main frames and made the mistake of making them almost scale width, so the engine tends to squeal when taking the curves approaching Kirkby Malham.  It runs much better in reverse, a bit like the prototype.  Like yours, built for EM gauge.

Derek

and highly rouged cheeks to go with the bright red lippie.