coachmann

Northstar Design's own coaches, available ready-built & painted but not as kits.

Easy to tell. Two stand pipes and a lower pipe on bufferbeam of push pull fitted locos. In the meantime I am looking at coaches again prompted by Buffalo's entry above.

So what exactly were they then. Four driving windows was not an LNWR, MR or LMS feature. They used three windows. Ex LSWR push pull set...4 -windows.... LMS push pull driving trailer....3 windows...

Four windows in a driving trailer end sounds to be coaches converted by the Southern Railway...possible candidates being ex LSWR and SE&CR non-corridor coaches. I have no info on p&p working on S&D lines by me at present. The S&DJR MR 0-4-4T's were fittted with auto vac gear but (so far) I have not come across any push pull trains in Ivo Peters albums. Pictures Nos 18 & 19 in Vol 1 show 58086 and 58047 on ex LMS Period III and I coaches, none of which were push pull fitted. Piocture no.121 shows 58051 on two LMS non-corridors, a Period I third and a Period III brake third, again not push pull fitted. There are pictures in Volume 2 showing 58086 at Evercreech and at Cole with the branch train to Highbridge, but as the leading coach is a LMS lavatory composite, the train is clearly not working push & pull.

None of the LMS Lavatory brake thirds were converted to push & pull working so forget the Airfix conversion. There is no easy solution without building a kit.

My coaches are not available as kits, but Comet produce the LMS D1735 non-corridor brake third (Ref: M25), which can also be built with a three-window driving end to produce a push & pull driving trailer.

It was to do with period more than anything else, hence the move back to blood & custard. This way I returned to reality and the certainty that I was modelling 1954-1955 as it actually was instead of a late 1950's situation at Greenfield that didn't ever exist. I realize that being pedantic is regarded as daft in some circles, when in fact it doesn't half simplify things. Anyway, please keep this GWR coach thread alive with more coaches.

There were lots of ideas swimming around in my head by the time I commenced the move away from painting from around 2002. Quick fit hinges and etched in droplights were adopted from 2004. The blood & custard fleet is well, er...back in blood & custard. That brief interlude with BR maroon was impulsive and its been a boring fortnight respraying and lining ten (I think) back to B&C.

I guess you are joking seeing as forming a tumblehome with hinges in situ would be....er....well...awfoo difficult. That is one serious peice of work Phil. With 42 pieces of glazing at the last count...that alone would put me off......

Bar'd from certain routes....

Glad to see some progress is able to be made though I fully understand why it is slow. Your wiring frightens me to death, but then your opinion of mine in 2009 probably couldn't be printed on here. The track is looking good too. As your free time is at a premium Dave, have you considered easing things quite a lot by converting back to '00' gauge before your stock position gets too large. We pull each others leg about this and P4 so I hope other P4 modellers on here understand this. Also glad to see the Bullied thingy has returned daann saaath where it should remain! Its appearance in the West Riding must have worried Delphites, not to mention the local ganger, who were only used to seeing the contents of Lees Shed. Cheers, LG

Must say I'm suprised you were even considering using K's wheels, but now Hamblings? They were the wooden spoon of drivers even in the early 1960s. Carry on like this and I'll be a nervous wreck.........Fit romfords man....

You are right Merfyn. Plenty of ballast, flask and other frieght workings after the 31's replaced the 25's, but the first Class 31 hauled passenger appears to have been the STORM special from Oldham to Blaenau in February 1989 followed in June by the summer-dated loco-hauled passenger workings to Blaenau.

Class 25's were used more often than not after the 40's went. To be honest I can't remember what was used thereafter without searcing throuigh photo diaries. Class 31's replaced the 25's so maybe it was these.

Thought this might interest you PCM. This was goodbye to the LMS TPO's, snapped at speed near Abergele in a parcels train in late November 1976....

Thought this might interest you. This was goodbye to the LMS TPO's, snapped at speed near Abergele in a parcels train in late November 1976....

This I like very much Darren01. It is not often we see the early diesel period being modelled. Had the Plough been more in focus it would have been totally realistic. The weathering of the loco is extremely realistic.

Good to read you are building a MJT Diner. Regarding the Gresley Pacific, did you do the red lining around and on top of the tender axleboxes with a bow-pen? It is very fine and neat.

For me inspiration from other layouts came not from thinking I'll copy that. With Borchester it was a case of "Blimey, he models the railway of today and he uses Letraset for BR cabside numerals and inks them in yellow" (there were no P C Models transfers at the time). Little things like that were the lift-off for me to doing my own bit of 1950's BR. The industrially weathered stonework on Gravy Trains L&Y layout definitely provided the inspiration to emulate the finish on my LNWR layout.

Got to agree with Jim on this one. Sure I took inspiration from Borchester in the 1960's but that was because it looked like a model of the railway I saw around me while living in Lancashire in the 1950's. I liked to see in print David Jenkinsons layouts because he modelled the 'fully panelled' era of the LMS. The outdoor multi-track Crewchester in clockwork excited me in the 1950's because of the way it was operated around real railway practices. But naming three layouts that have inspired me.... Borchester Crewchester GravyTrains layout Wainthrop?

Some scale drawings show it as 10ft between the inside of the angle and others show it as 10' over the outside of the angle on 61' 6" coaches. It does look as if Hornby's dimensions are a figment. Mike Trice and Bill Bedford are the LNER people to ask.

Todays railway is shed, shed and more sheds, so how hard is it to get two similar locos... Ignore the Duff! Here's a Class 40 approaching Colwyn Bay on the Up with another 40 crawling along the Down Slow with a Freightliner.

You shouldn't spray models till you're blue in the face

:lol: This tickled me. Been looking through this thread and am in admiration of your building patience with that chassis and those bogies.

Screw and 3-link I'd like to use. I fitted about 30 wagons and vans with them a few years ago and they looked good when I was just sat beside the layout letting my mind wander back to olden days.. Then I put nickel silver wire across the buffers to prevent you-know-what occuring and things got even more awkward when using my shunters pole. In the end a few days were spent putting back the Bachmanns.