Penrhos1920

When are your P4 kits going to be available?  Am I right to assume that you’ll be doing B7 and 1in7 diamonds and slips?

On 01/10/2022 at 11:58, keefer said:

This is a 1970s view from the page at abandonedstations, linked to previously:

As can be seen, the small headshunt on the left seems to be rising quite steeply - however it is actually near level, the Widened Lines tracks next to it are actually dropping steeply to go under the Grid Iron in the distance.

What traffic passed over the crossover from the Metropolitan lines to the Widened Lines?  It appears that the crossover was installed when the Widened Lines were built.  So did Met or GWR trains use it to access south of the Thames?

9 hours ago, David Stannard said:

 

 Well if Bachmann isn't coming to the party you can always do it yourself like I did.

 

https://flic.kr/p/JsG2BV

 

 

Is that converted from a Bachmann?  Or it kit ?

7 hours ago, AY Mod said:

On my desk right now for review and I have to say I think they're superb.

 

 

Shame about the tail lamp.  But that aside I’m feeling very tempted to splash the cash.

Previous challenges have allowed people to use a car & trailer to transport the entry.  Is a trailer allowed this time?

Have a look at the photo of the E17/8 for the step that replaces the footboard.

Footboards were removed from the bogies and replaced with a step on the outer end.

By 1949 there were only 3 D66s left.

On 10/09/2023 at 22:42, Lemmy282 said:

Back in the 1970's I was part of the team exhibiting a very large 3 rail layout at the York show in the De Gray rooms. Next to us was an LNER branch terminus layout, possibly Em or P4, anyway the exhibition was over the Easter weekend, and as far a we could tell not a train moved at all. For the first day feverish attempts were made and lots of solder smoke was evident, slightly less activity on the second day. On the last day there was no one with it all day, and after we packed up our layout it was still there!

I remember that model.  It was of HS2.  Didn't it get cancelled before construction was complete?

On 05/10/2023 at 16:10, Miss Prism said:

I'm not aware of volute bogies being called 'fishbelly'.

 

 

Yes I think you're probably right.  Isn't Fishbelly a name made up in the 50s by historians/modellers?  The GWR registers just call them both 9' bogies; and differentiate by recording either '5' springs' or 'Coil springs'.

There was somehting special about the Fishbelly bogie.  Almost all the toplights that were formed into Ambulance trains had their American bogies changed to Fishbellys.  And even in 1939 coaches built for certain branch lines had second hand Fishbellys swapped from old toplights.  The toplights then received the 9' Collett bogies that were being built at the time.

On 03/10/2023 at 12:22, Miss Prism said:

Both the C22 and C23 were 8'6" wide (so the 8' Triang bodies aren't quite right for them), and certainly were sardine cans. Not sure whether they were 5-a-side or 6-a-side.

 

Just 10 in a GWR third class non-corridor compartment 

On 02/10/2023 at 18:29, Miss Prism said:

btw, E116 had fishbelly bogies.

 

 

Don't forget that there were at least 2 types of fishbelly bogies.  Some had volute springs and others had leaf springs for the primary suspension.

It’s a LMS period 1 50’ BG. 

This one is unusual in that it doesn’t look like a GWR coach but it’s in deepest South Wales in the 50s.  Llanfyrnach on the Cardigan branch.  

in M R C Price's "The Whitland & Cardigan Railway"

details that aren’t typical GWR are the door ventilator only has 3 rows not 4 rows of louvres, the door handles, and the waist moulding doesn’t form a shallow panel.

Not drawings but there are some good photos of bogies in the Carriage Shed on www.gwrcoaches.org.uk

4 hours ago, Fat Controller said:

It couldn't be one of the coaches which were built for the Burry Port and Gwendreath Valley  in GWR days, but only spent a short period there before passenger services ceased, could it?

They were panel-less steel bodies built in 1939

I don’t think it’s GWR.  For a while I thought it was a bars 1 toplight until I realised that there’s only 1 waist moulding and not a waist panel with mouldings above and below.

Do what industry has done for years and use cable numbers.  Just search cable numbers on Amazon.

On 10/09/2023 at 14:57, Rugd1022 said:

I don't think we've had this former GW Sleeping car at Liskeard which was used a staff mess room, photo c/o the Cornwall Railway Society site...

 

 

It was still there when I took this photo in August '89, you can see the end of it on the left of the pic...

 

 

(I suppose technically it belongs in the 'grounded van body' thread but i couldn't find it!)

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don’t think that is a sleeper.  It looks more like a clerestory restaurant/dining car with kitchen at the near end.  The GWR built 6 between 1896 & 99.  They were regularly updated/rebuilt, but only 2 made it past 1931.

The lashing ring locations on GWR hydras and loriets were very similar.  On the buffer beam just above the buffers and near the end of the well:

On the hydras that have little plates above the buffers they are inboard nearer the coupling hook.  I have a drawing of a G6 hydra that appears to show a ring 2 planks along the well just inside the side girder.

On 27/10/2022 at 05:29, Neal Ball said:

H25....

I don’t suppose you have a drawing of the roof layout do you? I’m about to start drilling for the vents etc.

 

Thanks again, Neal.

 

Theres a good roof photo on www.gwrcoaches.co.uk

On 21/08/2023 at 22:53, PaulRhB said:

Have you increased  cv4 - deceleration to the highest value 255?

On 23/08/2023 at 10:25, pauliebanger said:

The answer lies in a full understanding of how this feature works with ZIMO decoders.

 

 

When the regulator is closed or partially closed the chuffs are replaced with coasting/ drifting sounds until the newly selected speed step is reached.

If the reduction is very small, coasting sounds soon give way to moderated chuffing.

 

The duration can therefore be increased by maximizing CV4 and either continuously reducing regulator opening or set speed steps to zero.

This in itself might be inconvenient for the layout or operator's needs, so it is also possible to attach additional duration so that the reversion to chuffing is delayed beyond the point at which the new speed is attained.

The value in CV  285  sets this additional duration, each unit equals 1/10 second, so value 20 will extend the coasting duration by 2 seconds.

 

Each of the above options can be used concurrently so almost any scenario can be simulated.

 

Paul 

 

I should add that whatever methods are employed to achieve coasting, the sound will immediately change to acceleration chuffing if at any time the regulator setting is increased.

 

Thank you both Pauls.  I’ve tried a few combinations of cv4 and cv285 and come to the conclusion that my multimaus is not changing cv285.  So I was going to set cv4 to 255 as an interim setting until I can borrow a different controller when something went wrong.  I think I’ve set cv8 to 255, but I could be wrong.  Whatever I did left the loco total unresponsive.  I had to reset cv1 to 3 to get it to move but I’ve got no sound.  Help please. 

On 10/08/2023 at 09:18, Harlequin said:

I don't think anyone has yet mentioned Megapoints controller boards for MTBs:

https://megapointscontrollers.co.uk/product/mtb_motor_driver/?v=79cba1185463

 

(I haven't done the maths on cost per turnout.)

 

I’d be concerned that they might not be around in 10 years time as it’s a one man band.

Is there a way to increase the coasting duration?  At the moment when drifting down Penrhos bank I need to count 20 loco beats and then nudge the regulator close, count another 20 beats and nudge the regulator closed again just to get to the bottom without a silly chuff or two part way down.  In reality once the train was rolling down the bank, the regulator was closed and the train controlled with the loco brake, whilst the wagons were trying to accelerate the train into the valley below.

On 16/08/2023 at 13:18, ChrisN said:

 

That is an interesting fact and is probably a deep rabbit hole that I would not want to start to go down.  (Well, I can take some books on holiday to look at while my wife and I are on the beach.)  It would mean that the later coaches would come down from Ruabon.

 

Do you know when this restriction was lifted?

Its not in the 1936 edition but I don’t have all of the alterations between 1927 & 1936 so I can’t be more specific.