the penguin of doom

Very well observed and methodical analysis E & G.

If your aim is to change the way we look at weathering, there's one convert here. It's so much more than a dusting over of light Brown that some of the more "mainstream" companies would have you believe is the way to do it!

Keep the updates coming.

Cheers.

Sean.

Stunning..... That is all.

Ha!

Cheers Jon. I don't have a sub contractor unfortunately, so what I get is what I've done so to speak.

It means 5 times as much research too, but hey, that's part of the fun I guess.

I've seen the pictures on the 47 thread, and she's looking fine to me. Another success I'd say.

Cheers.

Sean.

Absolutely smashing Jon.

A quality piece of work, genuinely something to aspire to when I get round to my batch, although having 5 to do, I'll just be "doffing my cap" at your efforts.

Cheers.

Sean.

And of course, you've seen how handy a foil turkey tray can be for O gauge coaches. Especially buffet cars.....

I'll get me coat, (and flat cap).....

Very nice Eric, (and Gripper).

The 08 looks especially realistic to me.

Just one, (slightly off topic), moan. It would be Charles Hardin Holley to be correct, better known of course as Buddy Holly. The "E" was missed off his original contract and the spelling stuck.

To quote the same man in a more positive light and with regards to your skills..... Oh Boy!

Cheers.

Sean.

Some smashing work there matey. Both me and Mrs P think the peeling roof and new door ideas look great.

Cheers.

Sean.

Heh heh.

Stop it Eric, I'm blushing, (or should that be brushing).

You mention a washplant 03, well, I do have an untouched Bachmann one, (save for a renumbering), but I also have an 08 which was a bit of a cock up with what was described as Brunswick Green, but was clearly a few.shades lighter..... Might be something for you to get your teeth into?.....

Anywho, I've just picked myself up off the floor..... Back in the day, you'd never have admitted to having a Pannier Tank. Have you gone all Western on us? I'll have to get you a nice J72!

Cheers.

Sean.

Now then Eric, (and Gripper of course - hope you're keeping him fed well.....)

Looks like you've hit the ground running on this one and the results reflect the hours spent on the fine detail. I'll be following your weathering blog with interest for obvious reasons. Who knows, I may even have a go myself...... Hmmmn, I think however, I've sent all my wagons in a pick up freight to Brid!

Great to see you back on the railway side of the fence, keep the updates coming.

Sean.

Hello James.

A good start by the looks of it. Looking forward to seeing it progress.

Cheers.

Sean.

Hi Jon.

That's looking much better! I'll bet you're glad you didn't let your frustration get the better of you now?.....

I don't know much about the Johnsons Clear, but it sounds a bit "outside the box" thinking to me. I'm no expert, and I'm sure you don't need reminding to try it on the GUV first.....

If it is of use, I always use the Humbrol aerosol varnish on my models and have never had a problem yet. It always seems to leave a fine, smooth finish and at about a fiver a tin, may be worth a try on the GUVs too?

Just an alternative if the Johnsons doesn't work.....

Cheers.

Sean.

Hi Jon.

Glad it seems to be coming round. Strange request, but could you post a picture of your stripped Deltic body? I'd like to see how it compares to using brake fluid.

Thanks.

Sean.

Hi Jon.

Really sad to read how dischuffed you are at the moment with this model.

I agree with one of the comments above. Put it down for a few weeks, (not too far out of view or you'll maybe not bother anymore), and have a think about how you're going to put it right, NOT about what to do with it. You've done too much already to just give up on it!

Actually, I just had a thought. I have got a spare Deltic body and if you need it, you can HAVE it! I have only carved off one set of the footsteps, so effectively started it's conversion. If ever I have had this sort of problem, the whole things gone in the brake fluid for a week, the paints come off and in general, I have always managed to salvage any detail bits for re-use.

Your conversion/detailling project here spurred me on whilst I was doing DP2 earlier, to such an extent that if I'd come across it prior to starting my model, DP2 would have been even better detailled. If it's any consolation, based on your model, I'm thinking about having another go with a greater level of detail based on what you've achieved here. Put simply, you've inspired me to do better.

DON'T quit on me, (and others), now.

Cheers.

Sean.

Just had a look at some pictures of DP2 Jon. Thankfully, it appears that this particular loco has no visible join between step plate and body, unlike the Deltics. I'm sure someone will produce a picture now to prove me wrong!

Another question, (sorry), where did you get the checker plate from? It appears DP2 did have this fitted, so I'll need to sort that.....

Cheers and sorry again for all the questions.

Sean.

Cheers Jon.

I just re-checked the pictures on Deltic Details and lo and behold, there's plenty there. Could have saved myself some filling and sanding there! Thanks for the 37 advice too, it's a while off yet, so plenty of time for research.....

Nice work there Jon.

Deltictastic! Couple of quick questions.

1). Those buffer beams, are they any good for a 37? I need to find some 37 buffer beams you see.....

2). The cab step etches. I tried to get mine flush, but I didn't have a detail picture. Should they be proud? Do you have a decent picture?

Nice work.

Cheers.

Sean.

An inspiring piece of work.

I remember seeing the 89 at Leeds about the same period as you're modelling her.

A top model in my opinion.

Cheers.

Sean.

Peaktastic Alex.

That weathering is spot on in my book and I see you've taken the bold step of doing it in the "economy" livery minus body stripe etc.

I always think they looked better with all the "trim" so It took a bit of self control to do some of mine in this livery. Hats off to you too for doing the same.

Cheers.

Sean.

Nice model that.....

Look forward to seeing it "in the flesh" this weekend.

Cheers.

Sean.

Hi Richard.

Some nice bits of work to improve what is, in my eyes, an already superb model. You're right, the new Hornby staniers do look a little matt and your t-cutting has glossed them over just nicely.

Still waiting for the shiney bits to arrive for my upgrade, but I've been doing some work on the bogies in the mean time. All good fun.

Cheers.

Sean.

Hi all.

I'm having problems posting further pictures on my blog, so have started a short thread.

You can catch up with progress here.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/topic/11056-stanier-diag-2117-conversion/page__fromsearch__1

Thanks for looking in.

Sean.

I had been considering a cut-and-shut of Hornby Second/Third and First class bodyshells, but it's a bit expensive to say the least, hence nothing's happened on that front.

 

Crack on Sean - you've got my interest, cos I need a load of Staniers of reasonable quality, and CK types feature heavily...

 

Cheers,

Jamie

Will do Jamie.

As a point of interest, you may be able to find some compo's on e bay. I also have some replica corridor thirds, (2), if you would like them, give me a PM and we'll negotiate a price.

Cheers.

Sean.

I have to admit I was really thinking in terms of the Third when I said about moving at least two windows; just as in the Mk.1 there's enough space between the windows at the First class end. Well done! Your moved window reminds me of the ones I did in a Lima Mk.2 (FK backdating, 2b to 2) but obviously without the frame area to loose the join.

Hi Bernard.

Funny you should mention the MK2. I did an FK a few years ago and lo and behold, Bachmann fetch one out. I'm taking bets now on how long it will be till Hornby fetch out a Diag 2117, and since they announced the L1 just as there was no going back on my conversion, I expect it won't be long!!!!

Cheers.

Sean.

Looking at your pictures, this is the first time I have seen one of these Airfix LMS corridor coaches. I haven't built any postwar 60ft corridor coaches with the extra corridor doors, but if the corridor third is anything to go by, the LMS squeezed the corridor windows to allow more 'meat' either side of the added doors. It would not be a simple conversion doing this....Blimey, it aint simple the conversion you're doing anyway and I take my hat off to you!

 

You said in your intro not to ask why you didn't use comet etched sides, so I won't. Although I will continue to wonder why you didn't.

Hi coachmann,

Thanks for looking in and may I say firstly, having seen some pictures of your models on the site, I can only aspire to that sort of level. As I say above, this will only be a representation of the Diag 2117, as I don't have the drwings to get everything spot on. I actually looked at the comet drawings on my computer screen and measured them with a ruler to get an idea of where things needed to be and maths was never my strong point!!!!

Just to answer your question, the reason I didn't use the comet side was that I had the coach, bogies etc already, so thought I'd see if I could do a cheap job, based on my experience on my K1 and L1 models.

Anyhow, I think its as near as right for now and is waiting for a little more sanding, before I give it some undercoat. Thats when I'll be able to tell if the conversion has worked or not.

Cheers for now though.

Sean.

Hi there.

I'll be watching this with interest as I too have a spare Bachmann chassis and the Dapol kits as well as the brass parts. I was just going to use the Bachmann chassis painted White, but your posts have spurred me on to have a go at making the chassis correct.

Please keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming.

A very interesting thread.

Cheers.

Sean.