Ceptic

Hi Ross, Sorry about that. l encountered some difficulty, yesterday, in posting the complete set of photos. ln fact, on pressing 'Preview Post', the whole thing disappeared. No 'Autosave', no, nothing. l've just managed to retrieve it, and, hopefully some of the images are now on show. Regards, Frank.

A couple of weeks ago, l had the good fortune to be invited to view this impressive 'OO' Guage layout. lt covers an area of approx. 50' x 18' and models the line from the Bourne Valley viaducts at Branksome, through the 'pines', under Cemetary Junction and on, past the MPD, through the Central station, running alongside the Goods Depot to the Cleveland Road overbridge. The station and motive power depot are to scale, with the Down platforms able to accommodate two 12 coach trains. These few photos, of mine, do little justice to the effort and expertise already expended by the Group's members, in modelling a layout of this magnitude. The work on the second of the viaducts, and the station buildings are still ongoing, coupled with the need of building plans / elevations and photographs of the outlying properties. Namely, the Royal Mail Sorting Office and Kennedy's Builders Merchants on the up side Station Approach. The buildings on the corner of Holdenhurst Road and the down side Station Approach, namely the Dearden & Wade newspaper distributers, James Cole & Son, coal merchants' building and yard. Behind these, the B.R. Staff Association Club, the lnstitute and the Fish Depot. Across the main road, on the opposite corner, there were the offices of Swift & Co, weighing machines. (later Avery & Co. l think) lf anyone has any references to any of these, l'm positive the Group will be extremely grateful. Cheers. Three pics. of the Cemetary Junction (Junction of the Wimborne, Charminster, Lansdowne and St. Augustin's Roads' overbridge No.17) The building on the far edge is part of an art-deco bus shelter with WCs at either end. This shows the Cemetary gates, trolleybuses on routes 28(needs the appropriate blinds) and 31. What appears to be a garden summer house on the RH side, is / was, in fact, a war-time pill-box, disguised to be as innocent looking as possible. There were some efforts to have it preserved / listed, but they came to nothing. Milton Road overbridge No.16, showing the extent of the carriage sidings. Beechy Road overbridge No.15, looking East, towards the MPD. Up Channel lslands Boat train passing 71B Running Sheds. The engine sheds at Bournemouth 71B. Has anyone seen a better model ? Ah! lt seems that l have reached the size limit with this post.

Yep, this was noted. All pictures are of un-motored (light) trailers. Compare the height of the body sides, and the roof.

Some comparison pics. Re. height. Hornby VEP vs. Bachmann EPB & CEP. And an underside view of the inner ends' couplings. They do extend / swivel, held together by a very small PK screw, but, unfortunately, with no NEM sockets present. The proverbial 'Curate's egg', IMHO. Regards.

Just had a quick once-over. The width checks out OK (0.2mm. up), but, when compared, cab to cab, against Bachmann's 2 - EPB, the VEP sits about 2mm. lower at roof level, and the body sides don't appear to be the same height. The VEP's being about 1mm. lower. lt needs a closer inspection, wearing me nit-pickers hat, vernier in one hand and magnifying glass in the other. "Nurse,.. The screens, lf you please"

Gwiwer, SRman,.. and all other members who have misgivings about the look of the front 'face' and the internal shortcomings. I'm in full agreement with you all, and hoping, against hope, that the publicity shots are of a pre-production model. If Hornby can 'go to town' with their exquisite Pullmans and Maunsells,... why not with a workaday EMU ? l've superimposed some relevent measurements onto this photo of one of the Lymmo 3-CIGs (2nd. generation Mk.1 SReg. EMUs all used the same design) Close-up. Note that the outer front window frame is curved in towards the top, and that the lower frame is approximately level with that of the cab side window. Measurements taken parallel to the window panel. Regards.

Look on the 'bright side' fellas. lt's good in the way, the majority of us coped with the change-over from gas to electric lighting. Think of the present-day charges + paperwork involved in just replacing a mantle !!. Mind you, if these rules & regs. go much further, we won't be able to change even a light bulb, without being certified. Cheers for a good read. Ceptic. (49 years in the natural gas, high pressure, filtration business, and still not allowed to go near a trickle of the stuff, at home)

"Absolutely"

Been looking out for them, earlier, this weekend, but,. somehow,.. missed them all.

No worries, spamcan61. As always, it's the detail that counts. This, left to right, sloping crease, and the gutter, are all part of the door. Here's a better view. Cheers.

Er,..The bottom crease is a gutter, to catch the rain-water and dead flies. There are, however, two vertical creases / folds, on the RH side of the door, and the LH (Driver's side) narrow panel. lf you look closely, you can pick them out in Surfsup head on view, and my, later, (fly-blown) shot. Regards.

Could just be the angle of the shot, spamcan61 Here's a side on view. You'll notice that these 2nd. generation Emus feature a smooth curve, in plan (overhead) view, to both cab, and inner ends, shown here. A slight (streamlining ?) improvement on the three flat panels of the 1st. generation Mk.1 Emu.. A feature that Hornby appear to have captured,..... hopefully. Regards.

D'you want flies ?, anyone ? Just print this, cut 'em out, and stick 'em on. Seriously though, l agree. There's definitely something wrong with Hornby's front end. The cab side windows, for instance, look too low (lower edge should be level with the front's), thus influencing the position of the wrap-around hand rail. No pun intended, but this first impression (?) hits you straight in the face. Regards.

l was, once, able to watch NHRA Drag Racing (which, sometimes, included the European Championships) on Freeview Ch.5 or 5USA, and involved staying up to some un-earthly hour. Now, it seems, as it's a minority motor sport (in the UK), if you want to see it, then, you've got to pay for it, on ESPN,.. and still stay up,.. waiting. Again, if it were Formula 1, football, golf, tennis, cricket etc., and now, the 2012 Olympics, it will be stuffed down yer eye-balls,... free of charge !!! Just my view, of things. Regards

Jack Nicholson as J.R.McMurphy in 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' "l must be crazy, to be in a loony bin like this" Film & quote, etched in my brain, ever since.......

Indeed,...'Tis far, far away from fair Cathay. ...............The choice is yours.. ...............Which ever way..... ....'Tis, ....ln fact,... my own high way. Cheers.

Another option would be to join the SRLHCS (Southern Railway Loco Hauled Coaching Stock) Yahoo group. Loads and loads of info on there. By the way, Welcome to RMweb Regards.

A few pics of Eastleigh's ADRR95225, taken at a May '83 open day.

Hello Please forgive me for butting in like this, but I thought, as all you crane guys were gathered here on Yellowvanman's thread , this would be the better place for a crane related question. It's a rather long shot, but has anyone any information on these types of cranes ?, DS 60 seen here, in the RH background of this view of Bournemouth MPD in the early '60s http://gallery62603..../p31801898.html The only information that I have gathered, is that they were built in 1923, on redundant Adams tender / water tank chassis, electric powered and possibly self-propelled. They were in use at least two other MPDs, Horsham and Dorchester.(61.S) . If anyone can fill in any detail, builder, history of, know of any preserved examples, or links to related websites ?, I would be extremely grateful. Cheers and Thanks, Ceptic. Edited to correct an observation mistake.

Hi All. Just letting it be known that a couple of the latest releases of Hornby Pullman12 - wheelers, R 4385 Parlour 3rd. 'Car No.98' & R 4419 Parlour 3rd 'Car No.249', were also 'regulars' in the B'm'th Belle's formation. Blank roofboards are included, and it's left up to you modellers to apply suitable lettering, and attach the boards to the roof brackets Regards, Ceptic..

This 2nd. post here, could, possibly? provide the answer. http://www.rmweb.co....y-trolleybuses/ Or, how about sheeting the roads with steel and have an overhead, electrified wire mesh. Replace your combustion engine with an electric motor, fit a trolley pole, and you're off... fairground dodgems style . Who said British ingenuity was dead ? Now, where did I put my pavement buggy and hacksaw ? I'll need m' coat 'n wellies, too, its raining.

In the Hornby catalogue

This'll do for me.... http://gallery62603..../p31801937.html And a Full Brake... and a Brake Composite....aand a BSK......aaand a CK.... Coming from a out 'n out Southern fan(atic), I found this addmission, suprisingly, easy to put into print. Wha's wrong with me ??

This (illusion) is probably caused by the fact that the VEP mainlight windows were shallower than other mainline Mk.1 EMU stock. I.E. The bottom edge was approx. level with that of the door droplights.

Hi Rob. If a train consisted of Pullman cars only, it was desirable to have a Kitchen car adjacent / coupled to a Parlour car, be the cars 1st. or 3rd. / 2nd. class. So, given this, there would be several Kitchen cars in the train's formation. I'm pretty sure that questions asking of the Pullmam train formations of the other BR regions, and some of the Southern have been answered elsewhere on this forum. A (very short) B/Belle train made up of Hornby's 12-wheelers, released to date, would be much the same as depicted on the train / coach packs' box sleeves. Loco + Parlour Brake Third No.94 + Parlour Third No.96 + Kitchen First 'MALAGA' + Parlour First 'SUNBEAM' + Kitchen Third No.45 + (Parlour Third No.98) + Parlour Brake Third No.95. The only difference being, was that the first class cars were normally in the centre of the train. Other 'regular' 12-wheeled B/Belle cars were Kitchen Firsts 'HIBERNIA' and 'ROSALIND', Kitchen Thirds Nos.17 and 47 and Parlour Third No.294. Regards.