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But Daddy. He hit me first It does look like a nice model & good value for the money. It has flaws but I'm sure most modellers won't notice them & the majority won't care anyway.

"but I'm sure it will give the rivet counters, wing nuts and assorted moaner something to whinge about." Your the person who posted the above, not me so please don't be surprised if someone fires off at you. Sorry but you can't have it both ways.

Update. My parcel with two locos arrived by DPD 10.30am. Two day delivery to Ireland as purchased. I did order with some trepidation considering the problems that have been experienced by some including myself. But I need not have worried as everything was as it should be. I never had any worry about DPD as I use them frequently & they're top notch but its good to see that Hattons are on the up again & that hopefully all their problems are behind them. We rightly complain when we have problems with a retailer so I feel its only fair to praise them when things go as they should. So well done Hattons & DPD.

Hi Andy. I have dealt with Coastal Dcc in the past for Tortoise motors & found then very good to deal with. I don't know how they would compare with US suppliers. http://www.coastaldcc.co.uk/products/circuitron/ There are other suppliers in the Uk as well but I've only dealt with Coastal. Tony.

Not any worse than some of the stuff on here at times MRF is normally a mild mannered place but this particular subject seems to have really upset the cart everywhere its discussed.

Perhaps one persons toy is another persons model or the other way around To me a toy is something which bears no real resemblance to a prototype item while a model is a scale replica of a prototype item. That is it looks like a small version of the real thing. in other news I ordered two locos from Hattons in the early hours of this morning to be delivered by DPD couriers two day delivery to ireland. So far I've had an Order Confirmation email, an Order Processed email & an Order Packed into one parcel email with a tracking number. All within seven hours. Looking good so far. The test will be when the tracking number shows up on DPD's tracking system

The lack of cab detail in disappointing.

In case anyone is interested in what the inside of the cab of the prototype looks like here is a photo. Sorry I don't know who took the photo or have any further information about it. Is there any representation of the cab interior details on the model ?

I would suggest that you check the manual to make sure you've everything connected up correctly. If having checked & nothing doing then give Gaugemaster a ring.

No problem Alex. Glad to help. Tony

Hi Alex. I would suggest Limestone. You might get more information on this site ? http://www.cambrianrailwayssociety.co.uk/thebranchproject/routedescription.html Tony.

Try another loco & see if that works correctly on the track. Check the pickups on the Lima in case there is dirt on them. Use a cotton bud & isopropyl alcohol. If nothing check the loco on the program track & see if you can read the decoder cv's.

No kicking, just stating the facts. Nothing more. Yes they do. However this has been going on for quite some time now for it to be a mere glitch. My first experience of any problem was over a year ago. I stated way back that something had changed at Hattons & not for the best. Maybe they've changed their business model or maybe they're having staffing problems ? Who knows ? All I know is that some people have been having problems with a company where previously problems were virtually unknown.

That stock take must be an awful long one In September 2016 I spotted a preowned item on their site which I immediately ordered only to be told several days later that the item wasn't in stock at all. I have also received an email advising me that a preowned LNER locomotive that I had ordered was unfortunately not in stock. It was unfortunate all right because I hadn't ordered any such loco. I have no idea what has happened at Hattons to turn a company which was first for service & punctuality into a complete hit & miss company. As they say "If it aint broken then don't fix it" Or should that read " If it aint broken keep at it until it is"

Hi Graham. Thank you for your reply. I look forward to seeing the production version when they are available. They look like really nice models & if liveried & detailed correctly would be a very worthwhile addition to any layout or collection. ​I will wait until I see the production models before purchasing. As to your leading comment, I think at this stage I have a fair idea of who you are referring to. This is not the first occasion it has been suggested on here that I'm acting on behalf of someone else and people making snide remarks has become extremely tiring even though it seems to be the norm on this forum. I'm not interested in anyone's petty squabbles so please let me out of it. I'm not from the UK & have never lived there so am very unlikely to know or have ever met the person you or anyone else may be referring to. My only interest is in the models under discussion. Thank you. Tony.

Hi C. There are as you can see numerous ways of doing what you want. A map / drawing or some photos of the area would really help in sorting out whats best for your situation. It doesn't have to be any fancy kind of drawing, just a rough idea. Tony.

Sorry for asking this question again but I didn't get an answer on the previous occasion I asked. Are the sample photos on the shop site photos of the actual production model that will be supplied to customers ? I'd heard mention that there were some livery tweaks to be done so was just wondering ? At the time I asked here I also asked Kernow but didn't get an answer to my enquiry there either ?

There is a YouTube video here for anyone who might be interested.

Yes D & S items seem to be in demand so always fetch a premium price.

Sorry I hadn't realized the connection but thanks for the information.

Hi Adrian. I provided a rather large list on this thread here http://www.rmweb.co....l +deans +goods Post no 22. Even though the list refers to 2309 because that's what was being discussed all the faults marked with the prefix F also apply to the Locomotion model as they will to any other model apart from the gap under the roof to the cutout. Edwardian also posted a list of other faults in the same thread. There are pictures of 2516 before and after 1934 on the internet and these have already been posted on the RMweb Dean Goods thread somewhere if Photobucket hasn't rubbed them out. If you need further reading I can recommend William Dean The Greatest of Them All by Jeremy Clements ISBN 978-1-9064 19-92-9 This is available on the net. ​I obtained my copy on a certain auction site for a very reasonable price. Sorry if the formatting of this post is incorrect as I'm working from a Minix NGC-1 mini pc at the moment which is used as a media server. My main Pc which contains nearly all of my railway stuff is in getting repaired (I can't boot into Windows) & I have no Office software on this one. I am restricted to Wordpad on this pc. Edit: F. Position of handrail is too high covering washout plugs. Sorry I should have mentioned that this fault doesn't apply to the Locomotion model. The washout plugs are now no longer hidden by the handrails.

I exchange posts with many people on Modelrailforum as I do here but I still don't know who you're talking about ? At least now we've established that its a him ? Will someone please tell me who ABS is apart from the manufacturer of white metal kits ?

Sorry if some of the typefaces & forts are not correct. The error is totally down to me. I already had written some of the piece in a word document & then simply pasted it into my RMweb reply. I will take more care in future. Pardon me for asking but what is ABS ?

I would respectfully ask this question. Why would someone buy the Locomotion model accepting of course that rule no 1 always applies ? They have corrected virtually none of the major errors. Although the cab cutout is slightly better the number plate position is now worse than shown on the earlier sample. Someone needs to ask Locomotion for the photograph of 2516 in the late 20's or early 30's which shows 2516 looking like their latest sample. Indeed it would be interesting to see a photo of 2516 in that livery and with a 2500 gallon tender at any time before it went into Swindon. Clearly all the major errors are still there plus various others even if the locomotive is supposed to portray the preserved example in Swindon. 2516 never looked like that in service. Neither in it's last few years on BR nor in the period the livery represents did the loco look like this model. Even if they corrected all the detail errors and made the loco look exactly like it does in the Museum it still never ran like that although renumbering might give a few possible options I suppose. Perhaps if the model looked exactly like it does in the museum it would look well in a cabinet as a model of a preserved loco but there are just to many errors. Sorry but to me it looks like an overpriced Railroad model with a glossy coat.

NRM didn't have a choice. They couldn't sell the model as it was & retain any kind of credibility.