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One of the versions is  "Heljan 1420 Class 14 Train pack with D9553 in BR green and four 'Dogfish' wagons in BR black".

I'm not interested in the Class 14, but would like some more "Dogfish" wagons  -  any chance of them being released separately ?

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" The 12:00 terminating at this station is running late ...."

6 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

But not a loco unfortunately - nor is the '3SUB'.

 

 

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Errrrrrr . . . . .   Yes,  they are.

They move themselves  -  they are "locomotive".

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4-COR, or 4-SUB.

Winners both.

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Do "Dukedogs" count ?

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When will the range of track be expanded to include OHE and third rail options ?

🤣   🤣   🤣

(  See below at my signature bar  for just a few options for OO locos.  )

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Still no Southern Region announced - so no need for me to think about joining in  -  I hope they will still be offering the discounts by the time the SR ones are announced.

The past few posts have raised, with me, the issue of things like separate fixed handrails, etc...   I would like to see some "real" models before ordering.

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Having thought about it for a couple of hours I can't say I have changed my poor impression of the launch.

They are, obviously, keeping the prices down.  I think they should have gone for ballasted track (see, for instance, Roco track) and all locos only available as DCC versions (preferably all with sound).    Yes, more expensive, but "the future"  -  as near authentic "plug and play" as we are likely to get.

Also, the launch lacked close-up photos/videos of what could be achieved scenically.

Still, I can still see the attractions for families living in small homes.

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Nothing Southern Region !  Very disappointing.

I will leave any sensible comment until I see how the smaller tank engines work on the track.

SK made such a thing of small layouts, even along window sills (!) means that tank engines will be important.

Good luck to Hornby, but I will wait.

P.S.  SK seems to think that Hornby will run out of new OO subjects in the next 7 years, or so !   I have lots of suggestions just from the Southern.   Sad to see such an attitude.

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I know that the loco has "charisma" (of sorts) but I am surprised that if KR are doing a 10-coupled loco that they didn't choose a WD 2-10-0, only 10 of them but more widely travelled.

( Still, maybe that is what Hornby will announce tomorrow !    😁  )

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How about a set of 3, or 4 BR standard 16 ton mineral wagons, at least two two differently numbered sets for at least the two main liveries, BR Grey and BR Bauxite (also pre- and post TOPS).

So many needed for every layout from the 50-ies to 80-ies.

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Most non-collectors must have found them acceptable as I have not seen any 6-wheelers appearing on E-Bay (or similar)

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Excellent !

Three liveries  -  black,  red  and  green.

sensational.

Will they be UK releases, or USA only and imported ?

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Well,  IF  Hornby are favouring non-competitor shops why did I receive this e-mail today ?

" .... Thank you for your order for R30112 * Hornby Dublo: BR Merchant Navy 35026 Lamport Holt

As you may be aware, Hornby have struggled to fulfil pre-orders this year, despite having given us an initial allocation to sell. This will be the third time that our allocation for these models has been reduced this year, despite being a Tier 1 retailer.

I am very sorry that the latest allocation means that we are unable to fulfil your order and we have had to cancel this. You may not be surprised to learn there is a good chance you will still be able to place a new order direct with Hornby for this model.

I hope you can understand that this is outside of our control, I can only apologise again for this.
Many thanks
Sammy
Kernow Model Rail Centre  ...

Guess what,  I ordered one direct from Hornby.

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On 29/07/2022 at 11:50, rapidoandy said:

We are pleased to announce that our E1 locomotives are now available to pre-order!

 

A total of 14 versions are available to pre-order covering:

 

·       SKU 936001: No. 145 France, LBSCR ‘Improved Engine Green’

·       SKU 936002: No. 155 Brenner, LBSCR Improved Engine Green

·       SKU 936003: No. 127 Poitiers, LBSCR Goods Green

·       SKU 936004: No. 122 Leghorn, LBSCR Goods Green

·       SKU 936005: No. 110, LBSCR Marsh Umber

·       SKU 936006: No. 694, LBSCR Marsh Umber

·       SKU 936007: No. B690, Southern black

·       SKU 936008: No. 2151 Southern Black

·       SKU 936009: No. 32694 BR unlined black (early emblem)

·       SKU 936010: No. 32138 BR unlined black (early emblem)

·       SKU 936011: No. 32151 BR lined black (no emblem)

·       SKU 936012: No. 1 Medina, BR green, ‘sunshine’ lettering

·       SKU 936013: No. 3 Ryde, Southern black, ‘sunshine' lettering

·       SKU 936014: No. 30, Hartley Main Colliery livery

 

RRP is £164.95 for the DC versions and £264.95 for the DCC Sound versions. Keep an eye for some possible further exclusives!

 

As usual you can buy direct from www.rapidotrains.co.uk/lbscr-e1/ or from any Official Retailer.

 

Design work is almost finished and we hope to have a sample in the spring. Until then here are the latest CADs to show progress.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Andy

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I don't suppose that you could update you list with the approximate dates that each livery / version is appropriate for ?

It would be helpful for we who have limited referenced available.)

Thank-you.

( That also applies for the Train Times Model Shop 2 versions. )

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39 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said:

 

....  I will be in the market for a couple more air-smoothed MN's if they do some that reflect their condition immediately prior to rebuilding, and maybe one more LN. Beyond those, the Maunsell dining saloons ticked most of my remaining empty boxes.

 

I'm therefore looking for announcements of items like an H16 tank, Urie S15, and one or more of the eclectic H15s in preference to upgrading Bulleids, which I can do for myself! There are, however, significant gaps in the range of base models. Notably wide-cab air-smoothed WC's with re-allocated narrow tenders (mainly in cut-down form) which became increasingly common from 1958 as rebuilding gathered pace. Also rebuilt WC's and/or MN's  with BR-rebodied 5250 gallon tenders.

 

John

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Yes, but you forgot the 4-CORs, or 4-SUBs, and some pre-grouping 4-4-0s

Always room for some more "Southern" locos.

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(New topic title)

https://www.fourdees.co.uk/kits

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Any possibility that this will happen ?

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1 hour ago, Graham_Muz said:

Latest ex LBSC E1 class 0-6-0t CAD renders from Rapido Trains UK see more here https://southern-railway.com/2022/06/23/latest-ex-lbsc-e1-class-0-6-0t-cad-renders-from-rapido-trains-uk/

 

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Thanks very much Graham, an absolutely fascinating article which brings up many, many questions, e.g. did any other loco have such a long withdrawal period as 53  years (1908 through until 1961) !

I'm afraid that Rapido have another winner on their hands

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It seems odd that the initial CADs showed the Driving carriage "fish belly" and where the window curves started  -  see Graham Muz's post on 13th May  ( ONLY 5 weeks ago !!! )   ;

It seems that the mould manufacturer ignored the CADs ( ????? ).

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I assume ( ??? )  that the S& T Dept also looked after the often overlooked on layouts telegraph poles (?)

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I'm very pleased that this project is still chugging away in the background  -  I look forward to delivery time.   Looks nice, as well as producing a useful engine.

By the way, I would remind Rapido (and any other manufacturers) that there is an LSWR T3 recreation project due to complete next year, which gives rise to more LSWR colourful liveried models.   See Steam Railways / Graham Muz's tweets ;

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4 hours ago, Compound2632 said:

 

There's an assumption there that Southern wagons predominated on Southern metals, which fails to take into account the pooling of ordinary open wagons etc. during the grouping period. These wagons are readily digestible by modellers of any part of the country. Not perhaps a feast, given that overall Southern (and constituent) wagons represented only around 5% of the total of railway company-owned wagons in the grouping period, but certainly a tasty morsel.

 

But I like @rapidoandy's emphasis on this being the Southern's most numerous wagon design. Perhaps this heralds a series of "most numerous" for each Group - perhaps then we'll see a genuinely common-or-garden wagon like the LMS standard 12 ton open, D1666, which by the early 1930s accounted for about 8% of all railway company-owned wagons - or around six for every one of the Southern D1379 and D1400 wagons. Any layout set in the south-west in the grouping era should be predominantly populated with LMS and LNER wagons.

 

This is not to criticise Rapido - any RTR wagon model where the same attention to detail is paid as we're used to with locomotives and carriages has to be welcomed with delight. It is merely to promote healthy eating and a balanced diet.

 

 

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And 10's of versions of the BR Standard 16 ton mineral wagon.

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Good luck to Accurascale, but I will wait for the "long" ( 63’ 5” ) versions for the Southern Region versions.

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The obvious ones are three-sets of the standard BR 16-ton mineral wagons with lots of different numbers and variations.

For a coach, I would go with the BR "short" standard suburbans (lots of liveries, relatively long lives, useful for branch work).

For a locomotive, anything from my "signature bar" - but talking to someone recently we noted that the Bachmann N-class really is in need of an update, so that, OR an L1, OR an E1,  all really useful engines.

( I really want a 4-COR,  but ...  )

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