Tony Wright Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No trouble for me viewing on Youtube, maybe your pc doesn't like visiting such places Graham I have posted it so hopefully you can view it here Thanks Mick (and Graham), I hadn't noticed this clip before (I left the Stirling Single at Graham's on the Friday evening). The loco's now at Shildon for inspection. Though it's tender drive, I don't think that was too evident on the clip. In fact, it glides along very well. The K's tender drive is a trifle noisy, but less so in a large space. As I've mentioned elsewhere, it's the property of Dan Pinnock, is at least 30 years old and is scratch-built. I made it work (just a thorough clean and a tweak) and it really does go well now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) OK, after all that recent excitement, back to the hard graft pleasurable, relaxing model-making(!) I've now compiled a 'comprehensive' (ie far too ambitious!) 'to do' list covering the work required from now to the Grantham show in September. High up that list, is Gonerby tunnel portal and surrounding 'greenery' in order to eliminate the last area of bare baseboard at the north end. If you recall, over the winter I had two goes at a mock-up for this and here the Mk2 version is being used to mark out the cutting dimensions to a piece of MDF. Suitably cut out, we can try for size in intended location... ...before fitting the formers for the curved wing walls. Now with structure added to form the basis of the tunnel lining. And a quick clearance check - all seems well. Here, the formers for the curved walls are being added. Also, some thin card has been used to create a template for the tunnel lining. And here's where we're up as of the weekend. The tunnel lining is now permanently fitted (SEF English Bond plasticard) and work is proceeding on the supporting / bracing pillars. More to follow (hopefully in short order as there is a deadline to meet for the scenery team's next visit! Edited April 20, 2015 by LNER4479 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Plenty of height in the tunnel bore. Even the Atlantics should go through that without trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yours might - I'm putting low profile tyres on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yours might - I'm putting low profile tyres on mine. ....and what size alloy's? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted April 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2015 ....and what size alloy's? Chav size. Big n blingey.....innit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Can you get 6'8" Carlos Fandangoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I always preferred "that Condor moment". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Wrong project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 Plenty of height in the tunnel bore. Even the Atlantics should go through that without trouble.Nowt that my mini drill and white metal/brass dremel milling cutter can't sort.... :-) Baz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 OK, after all that recent excitement, back to the hard graft pleasurable, relaxing model-making(!) I've now compiled a 'comprehensive' (ie far too ambitious!) 'to do' list covering the work required from now to the Grantham show in September. High up that list, is Gonerby tunnel portal and surrounding 'greenery' in order to eliminate the last area of bare baseboard at the north end. IMG_3581.JPG If you recall, over the winter I had two goes at a mock-up for this and here the Mk2 version is being used to mark out the cutting dimensions to a piece of MDF. IMG_3582.JPG Suitably cut out, we can try for size in intended location... IMG_3583.JPG ...before fitting the formers for the curved wing walls. IMG_3586.JPG Now with structure added to form the basis of the tunnel lining. IMG_3585.JPG And a quick clearance check - all seems well. IMG_3587.JPG Here, the formers for the curved walls are being added. Also, some thin card has been used to create a template for the tunnel lining. IMG_3588.JPG And here's where we're up as of the weekend. The tunnel lining is now permanently fitted (SEF English Bond plasticard) and work is proceeding on the supporting / bracing pillars. More to follow (hopefully in short order as there is a deadline to meet for the scenery team's next visit! Oh yes. The answer to my Honiton Tunnel mouth shape challenge. Thank you. P 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGC Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Nowt that my mini drill and white metal/brass dremel milling cutter can't sort.... :-) Baz Isn't wonderful to get such input from a master model maker who obviously know exactly which tool to use for which job! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Good to see all those photo's have come in useful. As for Atlantic's that don't fit, I suggest the track be lowered. It suited BR!!!! Mind you, watching a Container train passing through the real tunnel, it is very tight, especially the big ones!!!!! Paul 4475 Way out East 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Steady progress continues with Gonerby tunnel... With the basic structure assembled, time to think about the details, including the all important drainage arrangements. The rainwater is channelled behind the wing walls, which are topped by hefty coping stones. Ever tried to work out the geometry of a descending 90 degree curve? Tricky innit! In the end I resorted to fitting individual pieces (3mm balsa) which - funnily enough - is what the original engineers did. This was an entire evening's work! Now adding the rest of the brick detail. On the right hand side, you can see where the drainage run takes a sharp right angled turn and heads down the cutting side to the waiting cess. Meanwhile, as the weekend beckoned, work in the chapel model railway room was targeted towards making the tunnel interior to go beneath Gonerby hill. Here, the tunnel cross section has been replicated on two pieces of 3mm MDF which are fixed to two base pieces of 9mm ply. With the portal assembly temporarily fitted in place, this should give a clearer idea of what I'm going on about. Unlike the ECML and Peascliffe tunnel, the Nottingham line crosses at an angle so that (again) makes the geometry something of a challenge. First glimpse at the tunnel effect. This is of course partly intended to disguise the quite severe reverse curve that is in practice going on beneath the hill. The stock used for clearance testing purposes is deliberately chosen to be larger that anything that will go down the Nottingham line in normal circumstances! The tunnel mouth is finished! Now awaiting the attention of the painters. An attractive little detail, apparent in the photos kindly supplied by Paul. As I may have mentioned before (but worth repeating - well I think so!), this tunnel mouth is of a quite different architectural style to Peascliffe that will sit alongside it on the model. The line from Nottingham was the first to reach Grantham, conceived at the height of the 1840's 'railway mania' and was not of GNR origin at all but constructed by the grandly titled Ambergate, Nottingham & Boston & Eastern Junction Railway. It has quite a Midland-esque look to it - perhaps that's no coincidence, given the western extremity of the originally planned line to connect up two canals? It's certainly more ornate; the juxtaposition of the two on the model should be quite a feature and, as you can see, I have my answer ready! Back in the chapel, The lining of the inner tunnel section has been fitted, which means... ...it's chicken wire time (I like chicken wire time) The reason for the curious piece of softwood with the hole drilled in it will become apparent momentarily... Followed by mod-roc time (even better!) And so this is where we're up to at the conclusion of a satisfying weekend's work. The reason for the piece of wood with the 'ole in now becomes apparent - it is so Craig's impressive tree can be 'planted' (and removed again for transportation!) It will be surrounded by a copse in due course. That just leaves one remaining gap to be filled in once the tunnel mouth is painted and weathered. Next weekend's job, all being well. Edited April 27, 2015 by LNER4479 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 The cant rail and gutter on that Mk1 coach seem to be awfully close to the former for the tunnel shape. Will all versions of Gresley coach also pass without incident? Will any extra long 12 wheeled ECJS coaches ever go that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I suspect it's between the two rearmost formers and not under the covered section so it should clear OK. Anyway, once our combined Atlantics have gouged a few courses of brick out, there'll be plenty of room. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Jonathan has it correct - it was a slightly unfortunate positioning of the vehicle which I only realised after photo taken and I'd moved on. I won't deny that it is a little tight in the latter reaches(!) - however, for the sort of stock normally to be seen on the Nottingham route (Howlden 6-wheelers, 45 footers and coal wagons), it's fine. Besides, the now covered in tunnel top nicely muffles the scraping of cant rails and decapitations. 12-wheelers ex-ECJS vehicles to be run up there only with special dispensation of the District Operations Superintendent. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 We'd better not offer to test run Class 170 Turbostars for young lads in the future then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps I need to draw up a Sectional Appendix of what can run and where Paul 4475 Back in Blighty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi 507003 Well, it certainly looks a lot better from what I can see! Perhaps the front of the loco now deserves a fresh coast of black to match the condition of the boiler barrel? I hope the skills you've learnt / developed will spur you on to further conversion / adaptation work in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Many apologies for rather cheeky misuse of the Grantham thread, especially when the need arises from my own lack of organisation, but..... I have a note from recent weeks regarding a request for a set of parts for a W1 conversion, but I can't locate the original request. I've a suspicion it may have appeared in the midst of one of the forum threads, such as this one. If the person who made the request would like to get back in touch with me now, I may be able to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hello 507003, As I noticed that you have been busy, I decided to get my Mountain out of the box. Below is a picture of how it looked this morning. This is the first time it has seen daylight since the NEC last November. I lost my Modelling Mojo for the duration of the winter. I have located all the components that need to be refitted to the body. It is too shiny for my liking, so I need to dull down the finish. Tomorrow it will be in bits to rectify the pickups and the chassis extension which seems to have worn badly! Paul 4475 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi 4479 After taking a look at the loco I rapidly agreed that the black needed redoing and last night it was done. Also may I ask, are the loco wheels black on BR Liveried locos Black was the normal colour for wheels on BR locos. The only exception I can think of is the first built Peppercorn pacifics which were originally turned out in LNER apple green livery but with 'BRITISH RAILWAYS' on the tender (discounting any other existing locos that might have carried forward a 'Big Four' livery into 1948 prior to a BR re-paint). As the LNER livery style was apple green, lined wheels then this is what these locos carried. If you're using Brunswick Green as the basis for your livery then black would be the correct colour for your wheels. Mind you, as it's a neverwazza loco then you are of course free to paint the wheels whatever colour you like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hello 507003, Currently, I have no idea on how much my Mountain will pull. Hopefully, we'll find out in July at the next Grantham session. I will be looking at adding weight in the boiler above the wheels, but I have to counter act the overhang of the motor at the back first. As for the issues you have, I know that the tender drive models would lock up at the slight hint of resistance, so it is possible that your pick ups could be applying too much pressure on the wheels. (Mine has the opposite problem on the front coupled axle!) As for motorising a tender drive loco chassis, I have not give it any thought. The amount of work involved may be too much for the resultant gain. I have no idea if a current driven loco chassis could be made to fit under a tender drive loco body. I would keep my eyes out for a reasonable secondhand loco drive A1,A3 or even A4 and give it a try. If it doesn't fit at least you have another locomotive to hand Paul 4475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LNER4479 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Continuing with Gonerby tunnel... After a coat of Matt 67 (to give a base colour for the 'blue' brick appearance), here I'm dabbing on a thin wash of mortar colour. Looks a bit stark at this point but... ...after some dry brushing with dirty black then it looks something like this. The contrast with Peascliffe tunnel now becomes apparent, further emphasised by the difference in colours. More chicken wire... ...and more mod-roc to complete the scenery structure at this end of the layout. More soon. Edited May 1, 2015 by LNER4479 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Funny how localised these heavy falls of snow can be. Not a single flake on Craig's Bonsai either. Seriously though, looking good. Well worth the effort, especially as the effort was not mine. Now where's my mug of tea.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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