RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 15, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15, 2014 I was wondering how the A60/62's travelled from Craven's in Sheffield to London Transport. The logical suggestion would be that they travelled via the GC with it's wider loading gauge direct to Neasden? If that's the way they travelled south, love to see a picture or three of them being towed by a B1 or Black 5 lol. Julian Sprott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2014 Can't help with A stock but there's a small album here of Class 25 and Jubilee stock moves http://s1196.photobucket.com/user/Metr0Land/library/Stock%20Moves?sort=3&page=1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2014 IIRC they were hauled by 31's, or were they 30's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 16, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2014 Great pics of the 83 stock being moved but totally out my time frame. I have bought some Bachmann GC buildings (just need the waiting room) and want to use them when the GC was still complete. I thought it would be great to have a set of A60 stock being dragged south. As the Cravens factory was on the GC in Darnall, just thought the obvious choice would be down the GC for delivery. Julian Sprott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Davis Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Just been chatting with a couple of my ex-colleagues from LUL and they know that the A stock was delivered to Ruislip Depot, commissioned and then test tripped between Ruislip Depot and North Acton. The (Central Line) was in gauge for it. Then they were transferred from Ruislip to Neasden via North Acton, Ealing Broadway, Acton Town and Rayners Lane. no They are not sure about how they got there, but the assumption is the same as yours, via the GC, turning right at Aylesbury then to West Ruislip via High Wycombe and a shunt from WR into Ruislip Depot HTH Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'm almost certain that they used the GC. When they were refurbished a few years ago they had to go by road as the original line used for delivery had been closed. Best to ask your question on the 'District Dave' forum as someone on there is bound to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 16, 2014 Just been chatting with a couple of my ex-colleagues from LUL and they know that the A stock was delivered to Ruislip Depot, commissioned and then test tripped between Ruislip Depot and North Acton. The (Central Line) was in gauge for it. Then they were transferred from Ruislip to Neasden via North Acton, Ealing Broadway, Acton Town and Rayners Lane. no They are not sure about how they got there, but the assumption is the same as yours, via the GC, turning right at Aylesbury then to West Ruislip via High Wycombe and a shunt from WR into Ruislip Depot HTH Tony I would be surprised if they came over the branch fromAylesbury - one of the 'main line' routes would seem to have been far more likely unless there was a specific route restriction of some sort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Davis Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 And indeed a follow up post said: I think they would have "turned right" at Grendon Underwood Junction through to Ashendon Junction then to West Ruislip Regards Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Narnia Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Exactly right they travelled south via brackley, Calvert, Akeman street and via high Wycombe to ruislip for commissioning. The refurb journey from Neasden took place via Aylesbury to P Risboro and then north via Bicester. I remember the runs being hauled by class 37s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2014 Delivered via the GC to West Ruislip but not hauled by steam. Strange to think now that not only did LT stock once regularly appear on a now-vanished main line but that the A-stock itself has all gone from service and almost all has already left London for recycling into ...... whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 17, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 Delivered via the GC to West Ruislip but not hauled by steam. Strange to think now that not only did LT stock once regularly appear on a now-vanished main line but that the A-stock itself has all gone from service and almost all has already left London for recycling into ...... whatever. I have wondered about the 'not delivered by steam' bit since seeing the original suggestion that Brush Type 2s were used. Has anyone got definite information on that because the only diesel working I can think of on the GC London Extension at that time on the northern section were EE Type 3s on the York -Bournemouth workings and they came off at Banbury. I do wonder if there were any men who knew Brush Type 2s and knew the road via Akeman Street? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted July 17, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2014 I wonder if it must have been part of the contract to move the A Stock with diesel haulage rather than steam as A Stock is air braked. It could have been hauled as a unfitted freight but there might have been several Tinsley Class 31's air braked to work this train? Julian Sprott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30851 Posted August 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 5, 2014 There is a picture in Steam Memories 1950's and 1960's Great Central Lines of a some A stock passing Bagthorpe Junction (just outside Nottingham) on the GC. The stock is being pulled by B16/3 61463 of York. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I have wondered about the 'not delivered by steam' bit since seeing the original suggestion that Brush Type 2s were used. Has anyone got definite information on that because the only diesel working I can think of on the GC London Extension at that time on the northern section were EE Type 3s on the York -Bournemouth workings and they came off at Banbury. I do wonder if there were any men who knew Brush Type 2s and knew the road via Akeman Street? In the last year or so of the Nottingham-Sheffield stoppers there was at least one early evening northbound which was a Brush type 2, from Darnall I presume. The York-Bournemouth seemed fairly random whether it turned up an EE3 or Brush 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bécasse Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I have wondered about the 'not delivered by steam' bit since seeing the original suggestion that Brush Type 2s were used. Has anyone got definite information on that because the only diesel working I can think of on the GC London Extension at that time on the northern section were EE Type 3s on the York -Bournemouth workings and they came off at Banbury. I do wonder if there were any men who knew Brush Type 2s and knew the road via Akeman Street? Given that the A60/A62 deliveries were regular workings over quite a long period, there would undoubtedly have been a case for drivers acquiring the necessary type-training and/or route knowledge. Also given that the delivery trains were probably nominally out of gauge, some sort of dedicated training would probably have been required too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30851 Posted September 29, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2014 I have found another picture of one of these A60/A62 sets being delivered via the GC. The one was taken at East Leake on 29.6.62 (at 5:59PM it says) and is headed by Standard 5MT 73010. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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