D6320 at Parkend in August 1968

[martin_wynne]

Parkend in 1968. A long time ago now, but I know it was about lunchtime -- I remember eating a pork pie between taking the snaps.

 

© Martin Wynne

 

© Martin Wynne

 

© Martin Wynne

 

© Martin Wynne

 

Martin.

[Pannier Tank]

Very nice!   

[Captain Kernow]

Superb, Martin, utterly wonderful, thanks for posting those.

 

Did you ever find another pork pie as good as the one you had at Parkend, by the way?

[caradoc]

Thanks again Martin, and I trust you had Colman's English mustard on your pork pie ?

[Astockfan101]

The the last of them were scrapped in the 1980's oddly because some went to Barry!

[Captain Kernow]

The the last of them were scrapped in the 1980's oddly because some went to Barry!

Not being funny, but are you sure about that? I know that the last of the D600 Warships was scrapped in the early 1980s (was it actually 1980?) in Barry Scrapyard, but I thought the Class 22s all got cut up a lot earlier than that?

[Astockfan101]

Sorry wrong class it just that the D600s and Class 22's look almost the same to me.

 

So the class 22's were cut up earlier so I was wrong and got them mixed up with the D600's.

[andy stroud]

class 21 no. D6122 was broken up at Barry, summer 1980. Had a similar body to a class 22 but was diesel electric, not hydraulic.

Edited April 15, 2014 by andy stroud

[br2975]

Got any more Martin ?

 

I loved them.

 

Saturday, 3rd March 1971 - the only time I recorded a Cl.22 at Cardiff General, D6354 on  ballast hoppers from Lydney, no doubt originating from Parkend.

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Don't know the ultimate destination, but the following month D6327 was looped at Llandough, near Cogan Jct. with ballast hoppers.

Brian R

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By 23rd October that year the following were languishing at Bristol, Marsh Jct.

6310, 6315, 6320, 6319, 6322, 6323, 6327, 6328, 6330, 6331, 6334, 6337, 6339, 6340, 6348, 6354,

808, 815, 819, 822, 831, 833, 843, 844, 845, 854, 855, 857, 858, 865, 868, 869,

Together with the following Warships.

 

Brian R

Edited April 15, 2014 by br2975

[martin_wynne]

Got any more Martin ?

 

I loved them.

 

Hi Brian,

 

Quite a few more of Parkend, but not with the loco in attendance, sorry. I did chase the train on my bike for a short way towards Lydney, but the quality is poor:

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for all the kind comments.

 

According to my rather limited notes I was first at Parkend on 3rd August 1968, and then returned a few days later to get these pics.

 

As for the pork pie, I seem to remember that on arrival I found the train in the yard, but no sign of activity. No doubt the crew were having their lunch. So I sat on the derelict Parkend station to have mine, and await events. Of course no sooner had I started on my pork pie than the train was away, and I had to hurriedly leave it half-eaten to take the pics. As to its quality, the sort of mustard, etc., I'm afraid the intervening 46 years have rather dimmed my memory. In fact I'm mystified why I remember it at all. Perhaps I found crumbs in my camera bag a few weeks later and remembered how they got there.

 

I wish I had taken more pics, but after 10 years now of digital cameras we tend to forget that in those days every click of the shutter had to be paid for. The negs have survived in good condition, so I must have fixed and washed them well in the developing tank (Ilford FP4 in Acutol). But very few ever got printed, because it was such a time-consuming process in the darkroom -- this is the first time I have seen most of these pictures, having recently obtained a cheap £10 film scanner from Maplin. Now that I have rediscovered these negs I'm minded to get a proper scanner and try to get better results.

 

Just how the pictures I took today will be accessed and viewed in another 46 years is something of a mystery to me, but hopefully these negs will still be fine.

 

Here are a couple from the following year -- the tranship yard for the nuclear flasks at Trawsfynydd in 1969, with by then a better camera:

 

 

 

Martin.

[Fat Controller]

Lovely photos of a beautiful area, Martin. I like the (for once) uniform rake of ballast hoppers; GW-designed 'Herrings', which no other Region wanted. There's what looks to be a rather nice kit coming soon from Cambrian.

[F-UnitMad]

You very very very lucky Chap, Martin... I am only a little bit jealous, honest..!!!

 

You even got the side of D6320 with it's unofficial name "Lister" on, under the totem. Thanks for sharing.

 

Now, could you just go back & take them again, in colour, please..?

[paulbb]

Martin

super job, loved ALL the shots, did the Hymeks ever work this way??

perhaps you could ask Mr and Mrs Dapol to do the class 22 in O gauge?

Paul

[Captain Kernow]

 

did the Hymeks ever work this way??

 

Sorry, I don't think there's any photographic records of the Hymeks working on the FoD lines **. They did work on the nearby Tintern Quarry line, though (remains of old Wye Valley line).

 

** Edit - I'd love to be corrected on that point!

Edited April 16, 2014 by Captain Kernow

[F-UnitMad]

Martinsuper job, loved ALL the shots, did the Hymeks ever work this way??perhaps you could ask Mr and Mrs Dapol to do the class 22 in O gauge?Paul

As Dapol have done the 22 in N & OO, then an O scale version makes sense. It was rumoured to be on the cards, IIRC, when they announced plans to make O Scale locos, but the severe delays afforded Dapol's promised Class 08 have severely dented confidence in them as far as I see it.

[darren01]

Hi 

Do you mean this Warship at Barry, taken by my Father in 1974.

They should have saved this one as it was the first of it's class.

Edited April 17, 2014 by darren01

[F-UnitMad]

Hi 

Do you mean this Warship at Barry, taken by my Father in 1974.

They should have saved this one as it was the first of it's class.

The other North British (21?) can just be seen behind it in that picture.

The Diesel-electric 21/29's were of course also somewhat longer than the Hydraulic 22's.

 

Their appeal & popularity in recent years is quite strange in some ways. As I only got into trains in 1977/78 I remember seeing Hornby's Class 21/29 & wondering what on earth it was, & what an ugly diesel to model. It seemed a strange choice given all the other then-current classes that weren't available r-t-r.... My own interest in the 22 came as a result of my interest in the Forest railways far more than the type itself - I still couldn't give a fig for the 21/29, or the 'original' Warships as per that Barry picture.

[Andy Kirkham]

The other North British (21?) can just be seen behind it in that picture.

The Diesel-electric 21/29's were of course also somewhat longer than the Hydraulic 22's.

 

Their appeal & popularity in recent years is quite strange in some ways. As I only got into trains in 1977/78 I remember seeing Hornby's Class 21/29 & wondering what on earth it was, & what an ugly diesel to model. It seemed a strange choice given all the other then-current classes that weren't available r-t-r.... My own interest in the 22 came as a result of my interest in the Forest railways far more than the type itself - I still couldn't give a fig for the 21/29, or the 'original' Warships as per that Barry picture.

 

I certainly have a soft spot for the Class 22s, but I can  see why some might find them hard to love. For me it is partly the romantic appeal of a lost cause - the diesel-hydraulics and Western Region independence, and also the fact that these locos were closely associated with wonderfully rural branch lines like Hemyock, Torrington, the china clay lines of Cornwall, and the Forest of Dean. Of course if I were a bit older I would probably detest them for ever because they displaced the 45XX's, just as I will never feel any regret for the disappearance of the Peaks and the 47's - because they replaced the hydraulics.

Edited April 18, 2014 by Andy Kirkham

[Rugd1022]

Hi 

Do you mean this Warship at Barry, taken by my Father in 1974.

They should have saved this one as it was the first of it's class.

Hi Darren great photo but that is D601, D600 was the first built and was also at Barry for a while, it was the only one of the five to be painted in the full blue / yellow ends livery.

 

[Rugd1022]

One of the class was preserved, and must hold the record as the shortest time ever as the engine was inspected and a price was agreed and the cheque was handed over and the paper work was handed over to the new owner only to find when they were in the office doing the paperwork the scrap men had made a start on scrapping it as somebody forgot to inform them it was sold. So the owner was sold a Warship class instead.  

 

Yes poor old 6319, what a loss! Still, we wouldn't have 821 'Greyhound' had it not happened. As far as I'm aware the call to scrap 6319 was sent through from Derby, if the right person had intercepted it at Swindon things might have turned out rather differently.

[Andy Kirkham]

You even got the side of D6320 with it's unofficial name "Lister" on, under the totem. Thanks for sharing.

 

What was the origin of this name? Was it because it worked the Dursley branch? (Dursley being the home of Lister diesel engines)

[F-UnitMad]

What was the origin of this name? Was it because it worked the Dursley branch? (Dursley being the home of Lister diesel engines)

Yes, it was. The name was only on one side of the loco.

[Lord Flashheart]

Yes poor old 6319, what a loss! Still, we wouldn't have 821 'Greyhound' had it not happened. As far as I'm aware the call to scrap 6319 was sent through from Derby, if the right person had intercepted it at Swindon things might have turned out rather differently.

However all may not be lost, joining the current new build planned locos is Project 22 an Facebook based group ( so far) with hopes of building a brand new class 22, what will come of it only time will tell, I do hope it works out though.

[br2975]

When responding earlier in this thread, I forgot this occasion which was brought to my attention by Valley Modeller

 

http://www.rail-online.co.uk/p661346788/h2F187778#h2f187778

 

Brian R.

[Fat Controller]

Yes, it was. The name was only on one side of the loco.

Given the probable exterior condition of the machine, I wonder if it inspired the name of the character in 'Red Dwarf?', given his appearance painting a very tatty spaceship in the opening titles?