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The 1970s, 1972 to be precise


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During the 1960s and the 1970s it was fashionable to make 35mm colour slides rather than prints. Slides appear remarkably stable, but how to convert them into digital images? I am aware that there is equipment ‘out there’ to be bought, but how much better to capture the images for free. Luckily we still have a quality projector, so the other evening we projected some of our slides onto the kitchen wall and made fresh images with our current digital camera.

Two images that I came across were of an early layout which lived in our spare bedroom in Brighouse in 1972.

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Dublo 8F

 

The first image is of a relatively pristine Hornby Dublo 8F. The second image is more tantalising and shows a Hornby Dublo Castle with Triang CKD coaches passing beneath a scratch built station booking office.

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Scratch Built Booking Office

 

The platform steps were cut from an Airfix footbridge whilst in the far distance I can make out a rake of Airfix cattle trucks. There is also the rear of an Airfix garage on top of the retaining wall.

The track was Graham Farish Formoway which I thought better represented UK 4mm sleeper spacing. Unfortunately the tie bar arrangements for the points, was not as robust as Peco’s products which might be one reason for the demise of Formoway. The ballast was a pure silica sand (casting sand) which had been sourced for my university geotechnical project. I have never forgotten just how abrasive this sand was – hence my choice of poppy seeds for track ballast on my current layout.

Also in 1972 we bought our second Hillman Imp.

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Hillman Imp - new 1972

 

We had three of these super little cars before moving up market and purchasing a Triumph 1500 FWD (front wheel drive).

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Triumph 1500 FWD - in Honeysuckle

 

The Triumph was bought second hand. The ‘L’ registration had come out in January 1973 but it was quite likely that the car itself had been manufactured in 1972. We enjoyed our Triumph with its comfy seats and wood veneer dashboard. At the time it seemed to drive very well and we covered some 28,000 miles in 18 months of relatively trouble free motoring.

The majority of the mileage would have been incurred rattling up and down the A1 from Surrey to South Yorkshire. How time flies. One job involved an extension to Normanby Park steel works near Scunthorpe – now long since retired. I was also heavily involved with the Planning Enquiry and the subsequent design of the civil works for the new Selby Coal field at Gascoigne Wood, Cawood, Escrick, Riccall etc.- constructed, opened and now I believe closed. Drax Power Station and the associated Ash Disposal scheme also featured on my itinerary. I do believe that they still exist – but maybe not the sheep grazing on the ash mound!

Wind forward 41 years and we have just bought our second Triumph 1500 FWD.

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Triumph 1500 FWD - in Ice Blue

 

This second one was first registered in January 1973 and documentation confirms that it was manufactured in August 1972 – making it ‘Tax Exempt’.

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I have included the above picture for those younger members. Yes the engine is conventionally aligned as if to drive on the rear wheels, but this Triumph, like its 1300cc predecessors, is front wheel drive.

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We were also struck by how small it is – as my daughter said “What else are you going to put in the garage with it?”. Perhaps it is not just the numbers of cars that are on the roads these days but also the fact that cars have got bigger that makes congestion so unpleasant.

Does it drive as well as we remember – well - no. The steering wheel is enormous to make up for the lack of power steering. Then there is braking.....it just doesn’t stop like our modern cars. 55 mph feels quite fast enough – thank you. Did I hear someone say a more peaceful life style?

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There were around 33,000 Triumph 1500 FWD manufactured between 1971 and 1973. Checking with the DVLA shows that there are now only 62 taxed and a further 48 on SORN.

We had talked about buying a Classic Car for quite a long time, but never seriously. Having now acquired a 40 plus year old vehicle I suddenly feel very responsible. May be a bit like a railway preservation society?

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Nice car! I note no wing mirrors though?

 

Drax is very much alive and kicking and has recently had a biomass unit installed. The ash mounds are all grassed as they reach "maturity" and there has been an excellent nature trail on it for a number of years. Indeed you can now walk all the way to Barlow Common where the Goole-Selby line ran. Once that line shut, the sidings became wagon storage, but also an overnight stopping point for the Royal Train.

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Excellent message - it will be 38 years since I last visited Drax. The last time was something about the road surface breaking up on the corners - the result of the surfacing not bonding to the road base where it had been laid on moisture from the cooling towers.

 

Wing mirrors yes I did wonder, the history file shows that the car had a couple of new wings in the 1990s. It has never been 'rebuilt' as such - just continuous maintenance!

 

Regards

 

Ray

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At the risk of going completely off thread (but an awful lot of model railway people seem to have classic cars as well), I have to agree with you on the poor drive of old cars now. I have had my Midget 23 years and it was my only car for some time, but I just don't enjoy driving (or working on it) any more. Only 38 miles last year - but what can I do? I can't sell an old friend! Luckily the garage is a bit to damp and far from the house to consider a layout so it is safe there!

 

Do watch out for fuel evaporation though as modern fuel is very different from the four star these cars were designed for and in hot weather (when you want to use the car!), it just seems to disappear before meeting the engine.

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Minor point on car registrations. At this time they ran from 1st August to 31st July, so L reg. is August 1972 to 31st July 1973, making it even more likely to have been built in 1972. A to D suffixes were for 1963 to 1966 respectively, but E reg only covers 1st January 1967 to 31st July followed by F reg from 1st August 1967 to 31st July 1968. Apparently this change was at the request of the motor trade to improve sales mid-year where they had traditionally been low, but in the end the annual suffix/prefix system distorted the market.

The FWD 1500 was later re-engineered to RWD as the Dolomite, but externally there's very little difference.

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Hello Bernard, yes I seem to recollect that it was difficult to keep up with when the year letters changed. The important information researched by the previous owner was 'when the car was manufactured' as opposed to when it was 'registered'. For a number of years now to qualify for Heritage Tax status (free) the car had to be manufactured before January 1973.

 

Regards Ray

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Hello KH1 - thanks for the advice regards fuel. I had noticed that the garage rather smelt of petrol and was thinking that there might be a leak (of course there still might be!).

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Hi Ray, what an interesting post!

 

I would like to "convert" some slides using this approach. Are there any particular tips to keep in mind?

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Hello Mikkel, good to hear from you. I really wanted a digital copy of our first Triumph 1500 and it just 'came to me' that I could make a picture of the projected image. I had just been using the camera to copy some A0 design drawings - so why not projected images.

 

It opens the door to lots more 'new' pictures. I haven't experimented, it was done at dusk with the blinds closed, the kitchen wall is painted magnolia - would a white screen have been better? I did pay particular attention to placing the camera as close to the projector lens as possible. Also I made sure that the beam of light from the projector was near horizontal. In retrospect the slide of our Imp was not as clean as it might have been, so something to check for the future.

 

Watch this space

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Thanks for the info Ray, now I know what to do in the summer evenings when everyone else is outside :-)

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Both lovely cars, the Imp and the 1500 FWD. I have an L reg 1500 too, manufactured in November '72. As for the wing mirrors, they were not standard items on the 1500FWD. Only cars first used on or after 1 August 1978 need a wing mirror, long after the 1500FWD was discontinued. Two other 'techie' bits of note, all your K and L reg cars have the black on white/black on yellow license plates, which were permitted on cars manufactured after 1968 (and often were used - hence your car plates) and compulsory on cars manufactured from1 January 1973 onwards. Personally I've swapped for the 'old style' (but not originally fitted) silver on black plates, which I prefer on older cars. What is more interesting is that you have the eminently desirable (and now no longer available) Triumph Dolomite Club grille badge, of which (as a member) I am very jealous.

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dmcn (Dolomite Club N?) - what a great message.

 

Many thanks for clarifying the number plates.  I would make a terrible witness because I could visualise all our early cars with silver on black number plates.  It was only when I sorted out the old slides that I was forced to admit that they had been fitted with  black on white / yellow from new.  The plates on the 'new' 1500 are showing their age but since they have the name of the garage that supplied the car (and maintained it for almost all its life) they will stay.  I only joined the Dolomite Club in April and was not made aware of the particular status of the badge.  I have a lot to learn about old Triumphs - so you may get a PM.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Yup - on TDC I'm dmcnicoll. Lovely to see these great classics still used and loved.

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dmcn - what a great message.

 

Many thanks for clarifying the number plates.  I would make a terrible witness because I could visualise all our early cars with silver on black number plates.  It was only when I sorted out the old slides that I was forced to admit that they had been fitted with  black on white / yellow from new.  The plates on the 'new' 1500 are showing their age but since they have the name of the garage that supplied the car (and maintained it for almost all its life) they will stay.  I only joined the Dolomite Club in April and was not made aware of the particular status of the badge.  I have a lot to learn about old Triumphs - so you may get a PM.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Hello Horsetan

Thank you for the comment

..... a 1973 VW K70L, and a 1973 NSU Ro80. Had fun with those....

I had to Google the VWK70 to remind myself.  For esoteric perhaps read expensive foreign to maintain.  I do remember the Ro80 - one of those cars ahead of its time and still I think good looking.  Seemingly quite valuable if you had kept one.  The Triumph is tucked safely away - summer seems a long way off with all this water about.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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...I had to Google the VWK70 to remind myself.  For esoteric perhaps read expensive foreign to maintain.  I do remember the Ro80 - one of those cars ahead of its time and still I think good looking.  Seemingly quite valuable if you had kept one.  The Triumph is tucked safely away - summer seems a long way off with all this water about.

 

I had the K70 as a student. It was one of only about 12 still on the road in the UK at the time. Only 800 RHD models came to the UK between 1972 and 1975, so it wasn't exactly a sales success.

 

The Ro80 was a hoot. The previous owner had put the Mazda RX7 Wankel in it, so it was a bit quicker off the mark. Very comfortable ride and great power steering. Still regret selling it.

 

You're not planning to drive the 1500 to Singapore, then?

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Thanks again Horesetan

 

Singapore - the Endurance Rally February 2015 - unfortunately not.  Twynholm for an MoT will be a sufficient challenge.

 

I am wondering if my brother had a K70 - he certainly had a green NSU (Quickly?) which he remodelled.  He didn't keep cars very long in those days.

 

Speak again

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Triumph cars and the 1970s! During the 70s and 80s our family was almost exclusively a triumph family including 3 heralds (1 convertible), a 2.5 pi mark 1 saloon, a mark 1 2.5pi estate, my father had a Toledo 1300 (on a k plate) which was the same body style as your 1500 - I always thought the 1300 and 1500 were similar body style to the mark big saloons. And the body style that you own were known as the Toledo and dolomite. I was lucky enough in 1980 to buy a 1972 Stag which I absolutely loved and kept for 18 years.

 

Alan

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Oh well done Alan

.. 1972 Stag which I absolutely loved ...

We looked at some Stags before we bought the 1500 - loved the sound of the V8 exhaust but the 1500 is for us a more practical 'Classic'.

 

Regards

 

Ray

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Lovely cars - I owned a series of 1500/1850 Dolomites in the 70's and 80's. 

Your remark about the smell of petrol reminded me of a problem with one of them.  The fuel tank was (is) inside the boot and the tank top formed the floor of the boot.  Water had seeped into the cofferdam space between the underside of the tank and the car body.  Pitting corrosion then occurred which allowed petrol to leak out of the tank into the space.  I ignored this for quite some time before the smell became so strong that I had to investigate.  Plastic padding may have been used as a repair.

 

I also worked at Drax, but on the PF ash plant.  Not entirely a happy experience, as someone circumvented the PTW system (broke off the padlocks on the motor switch panel) and started up one of the rotary mixers just as I was getting out of it after an internal inspection.

 

Peter

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Thanks Peter

 

It seems it is a small world - and life goes by so very quickly.

Lovely cars -

 

I also worked at Drax,

It is over a year since acquiring the 'new' 1500.  After failing its MoT in June (2014) it now has brand new front brakes and a lot of new steering and drive shaft components .  Essentially a lot of the rubber dust covers and gaitors had perished - life expired.  In order to fit replacements it made sense to replace some of the joints at the same time.  It is a great experience to drive - there is so much more visability than in modern cars with all their safety features! 

 

Regards

 

Ray

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