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#1 Boco_D1

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 22:36

So I've been thinking about this challenge for a bit and there are two entries I want to have a go at. One idea will be based on a small portion of Birmingham New Street in the 90s/00s, allowing me to display a loco or piece of rolling stock.

My other idea is based on this
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I love this box art and this will give a great excuse to have a go at military modelling. I'm going to mix scales using a 1:72 Airfix typhoon kit and N gauge track trying to use force perspective to create the imagie.
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This is roughly the idea I'm going for, I found an old minitrix shell in my scraps box I was going to use but looking online I've picked up a class B 52 (I'm no expert on German locomotives but I believe this is the loco in the box art) by Del prado which are static n Gauge models, either way it will be perfect for the scene.
And of course this project will finally allow me to get round to building this
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It's been sitting in the to be built pile for some time.

And the cake connection (although not required) I had a Google and found Typhoon cake tins, bonus!

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 07:00

Forced perspective from above? Now that is certainly original!
Love it!
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:01

Just when you think everything's been covered up pop's another genius idea, long may it continue, Brilliant look forward to seeing this develop Boco.


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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:09

You could go to town with lighting & smoke generator for the burning train effects!! :yes:

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Posted 03 November 2017 - 10:31

You could go to town with lighting & smoke generator for the burning train effects!! :yes:


Im looking into it there are some very cool effects people have achieved online with various methods, this will certainly be a case of playing around a lot to try and find what works.
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Posted 03 November 2017 - 21:43

I've been playing around with the dimensions available trying to work out the best way to force the perspective. After playing around with different ideas And cut a few envelopes into triangles and tried this:
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By looking at the base in a diamond position and then using the triangles to force the perspective I think it tricks the eye into thinking there is more depth than there is and to prove the test...
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My trusted spitfire held roughly in place, I think it works quite well.
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Posted 04 November 2017 - 16:55

Why not tilt the track, so the there's more of a "looking down' feel to the view? As the train isn't going to move along the rails it could be held in place with blu-tack underneath to stop it toppling over.
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Posted 04 November 2017 - 22:00

I was thinking of something like that, just have the whole base raised at a slight angle to give that impression.
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:10

Well my B52 arrived and the typhoon is almost finished so I thought I'd have another visual check.IMG_1831.JPG
I cut the two triangular sides to the same height as the backscene but I think it's too high in comparison to the original cut up envelopes so I will cut them down.
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Posted 07 November 2017 - 11:03

I like the use of different scales, will definitely fool the eye.


I have modelled planes with “spinning” propellers using a circle of slightly opaque plastic. Photo taken on our modular layout when running 1940s trains.

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#11 Boco_D1

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 11:17

That's what I think I'll put on the Typhoon but I'll put it behind the propeller so it gives the effect of a snapshot in time but still has the appearance of motion.

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 01:56

So the typhoon is now built just waiting transfers.
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I have cut a circle of plastic and then painted it black where the propellor arms will be before lightly scratching the paint off with sand paper.

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I also found some cotton wool in the house which works very well for the exploding train.

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I've cut another base and angled it to slope down towards the front. The outside has been given a coat of black and the sky has been painted on the inside. I also have some very small trees by Bush and have lined them tallest to smallest to incourage the deception of depth.
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:27

Very innovative!
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:43

Could you hide the rear corner by using a large piece of card for the backscene by gently curving it?
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Posted 09 November 2017 - 11:54

Could you hide the rear corner by using a large piece of card for the backscene by gently curving it?


It's a thought that has crossed my mind i just don't want the curve to take up too much space as I want as much distance as I can get between plane, train and backscene. I suppose the best way to find out is have a go.

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#16 DonB

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 17:39

You could try just a fillet in the corner to lose the hard fold line.



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Posted 10 November 2017 - 19:00

You could try just a fillet in the corner to lose the hard fold line.


Waste of a slice of beef if you ask me...



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#18 F-UnitMad

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 21:00

The rear corner join might be hidden by the smoke & steam from the shot-up engine, assuming the judicious use of some cotton wool (as well as a smoke generator ;) )
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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:35

Now the smoke generator is certainly a possibility as the loco is hollow inside, do the rules include the power source to be within the size limits? I'm certainly going to put lights on the loco to give a fire effect and have been wondering if the hut next to the level crossing will need to be big enough to hide batteries. As for the background, I painted at 2 in the morning, it looked okay then, in the daylight it's not so good so I will be attempting something different to improve the look.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 21:11

I really wasn't happy with the backscene so I cut some card to size (after several attempts to get it the right size) and paint a more detailed backscene.

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Working with the position of the track, which I had decided to realign so it comes towards the viewer, and the box art I painted a much better backscene. I've also gone with the curve in the backscene which is certainly an improvement.
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Posted 15 November 2017 - 21:44

With the back scene done I'm now concentrating on the exploding locomotive. I found a sluthe smoke generator in my spares box but it wasn't playing ball. I also wanted the power source to be kept with the diorama so I've decided just to concentrate on a light for the explosion.

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So I've built a self contained power battery box which I will hide under the scenery. I'm rather pleased with this, I've added lights to buildings and locos before but I've always hooked them up to the layout. This time I played around with various batteries to light up the LED and then moved on to building the box. The box itself is made with a base of mountcard with some off cuts of foamboard sandwiching the batteries, I got old loco pickup and cut them off thereded thorough a bit more mountcard and then wired up the circuit. Next job is to add the light to the loco. And hiding the box under the scene and remember to put an access door on the bottom too.
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:06

Very clever indeed!
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:55

It would give a whole new meaning to those "flickering firebox" lighting effects modules you can get!!
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Posted 16 November 2017 - 13:34

One thought:

If you haven't already glued-down the tracks, you might 'dodge' a bit of extra false perspective by setting them on ever-so--subtly diverging courses.

The ultimate would be to make some bits of track with converging gauge, but that might Interfere with other aspects of your work of art.
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#25 Boco_D1

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 21:53

The track is now down and I've added the crossing but maybe a slight angle of the ballast and hedge row might do the trick.











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