Model Rail 244 February 2018.

[Redkiterail]

they tried that many a time and it never was successful I have no problem with non uk content in model rail there is a lot we can learn from across the sea. I have no problem with occasional articles from non uk models or content

[Steamport Southport]

Or just buy a magazine about modelling foreign railways? There are more than two readily available last time I looked in WH Smiths. 

 

Having a "token" article about foreign railways serves no one to be honest. Too much for the "UK only" reader and not enough for the person that is genuinely interested.

 

 

 

 

Jason

[grahame]

subscription copies normally arrive before publication day. That is one reason why people subscribe, not just having to order from local newsagent.

Yes, my copy did arrive, as usual, before the declared publication date. As I said it wasn't late.

 

G

[Butler Henderson]

subscription copies normally arrive before publication day. That is one reason why people subscribe, not just having to order from local newsagent.

The saving of good few ££ being another which noticeably outbalances any slight delay in arrival.

[rue_d_etropal]

Chances are most who model OO, actually use quite a lot of 'continental' items. Quite often there are mentions of HO scale items which could be used on UK layouts. I think quite a few Liliput items cross over into Bachmann OO catalogue. When it comes to modelling, I think many continental modellers could put many British modeller to shame. Some seem to think it is either big USA and German layouts, with bright green grass, and plastic buildings straight out of the box. It has moved on a lot over past few years, and there is a lot of Pendon quality model railway modelling out there.

Anyone who actually remembers MRC, will remember they had a regular continental section, and Chris used to have articles on USA railways.

I wonder how many actually are bothered by a little bit of non British modelling in the magazine. It tends to be a minority who shout loudest, but I suspect most people would rather have good quality model railways featured, what ever country they are.

If you are going to only include British themed models, then there should be absolutely no WW1 themed layouts. It does not bother me, but strictly speaking a WW1 layout based in France or Belgium is continental, not British.

[Kelly]

I had to cancel all my magazine subscriptions (due to financial circumstances changing rather than any other one reason related to the magazine), so I'll have to have a look out for this issue, sounds it could be of interest.

[Dzine]

Chances are most who model OO, actually use quite a lot of 'continental' items. Quite often there are mentions of HO scale items which could be used on UK layouts. I think quite a few Liliput items cross over into Bachmann OO catalogue. When it comes to modelling, I think many continental modellers could put many British modeller to shame. Some seem to think it is either big USA and German layouts, with bright green grass, and plastic buildings straight out of the box. It has moved on a lot over past few years, and there is a lot of Pendon quality model railway modelling out there.

Anyone who actually remembers MRC, will remember they had a regular continental section, and Chris used to have articles on USA railways.

I wonder how many actually are bothered by a little bit of non British modelling in the magazine. It tends to be a minority who shout loudest, but I suspect most people would rather have good quality model railways featured, what ever country they are.

If you are going to only include British themed models, then there should be absolutely no WW1 themed layouts. It does not bother me, but strictly speaking a WW1 layout based in France or Belgium is continental, not British.

Hi Simon, There's a great deal of sense in what you say and more important relevance.  It's naive to believe we have all the best ideas in the UK and have much to learn from others regardless what they model.  Take 'Open the box', pages 6 and 7, on the face of it, it's a bit too 'Rembrandtyish' for my liking but there's no mistaking Peter Diillen's brilliance in forced perspective modelling, you just have to transfer his concept to a Uk subject.  I'd choose London, backstreets, Underground station, Southern region line, smoke and grime, probably 1950's....fab..  The same applies too with Peter's article on page 48 onwards, though he makes a clear link to UK relevance.  I keep sneaking in the odd subject; North West Frontier (India), Elevated Railways (USA), Continental Europe (Ideas for Layouts 2), Cuba (Ideas for Layouts 3) and I'd be fibbing if I said there weren't one or too others up my sleeve!  All the best Paul

[rue_d_etropal]

Paul, keep up the good work.

Being broad minded and having a wide range of interests, I do wonder why I should be restricted by those who are not so broad minded . If they only want to play with some of the toys, don't limit everyone else, when there are more toys to play with. If someone only wants to read half the magazine, because they are not intersted in the other half, fine, I am not stopping them, but they might actually learn something new. For many years Continental Modeller have been running superb articles by Emmanuel Nouaillier. Just google him to see his quality modelling, more typically found amongst military modellers.

I was looking at some of the new catalogues for continental  models(available FREE online to download), and realised each company did not restrict itself to its own country, and would do models for several countries. Yes, I know both Hornby and Bachmann have continental divisions, but they still separate them from the British items. It would be a lot different if we did not choose to stick with OO rather than HO. Technically these days there is no problem, getting all that detail into a smaller space, and then the trains would match the r2r track(Peco track is HO scale).

 

When Bachmann originally introduced their American On30  models, there was an increase in interest in model railways from younger people. Obviously the cowboy/indian.wikd west theme is still popular, and  brought more younger people into the hobby. It does not stop those who just want to model one line in one part of the UK, modelling what they want, but more people in the hobby mans a better healthier hobby.

Edited January 25, 2018 by rue_d_etropal

[AndyB]

i picked up a copy this morning as the adding relief to Metcalfe kits seemed interesting. 

 

What was a real bonus was to learn about the work of Models for Heroes.

It left me wondering how many kits there are in my stash that will never get built and could be of use to these guys. 

I wonder what one model from every tenth person on here would achieve? 

 

Very glad I bought this issue. 

[81C]

i picked up a copy this morning as the adding relief to Metcalfe kits seemed interesting. 

 

What was a real bonus was to learn about the work of Models for Heroes.

It left me wondering how many kits there are in my stash that will never get built and could be of use to these guys. 

I wonder what one model from every tenth person on here would achieve? 

 

Very glad I bought this issue. 

I read a copy at a friends during the week when visiting him I found it a good read and impress on how much it had improved since I last looked at any 

of the Rail mag's.   

[Butler Henderson]

Just spotted a bit of misguidance in the track plan article on page 65 re joining the Tillig crossing in place. Tillig Code 83 track has a different, finer, profile than Atlas (or Roco) and the Atlas Code 83 - 100 joiners will not work. Instead Pecos Code 75 - 100 joiners should be used.

Edited January 28, 2018 by Butler Henderson

[grahame]

I do wonder why I should be restricted by those who are not so broad minded

I don't think anyone is restricting you. You can buy whatever models you like and purchase magazines about any railway subject from anywhere in the world.

 

It's just that I guess there are people who are fully satisfied model railway wise with British outline and possibly don't wish to waste money on other subject areas of no interest to them. That's their choice but it doesn't necessarily make them any less broadminded or is any reason to demean them. They might well have very wide interests in things other than toy trains but also happen to enjoy British ones.

 

G

[dibber25]

The 'foreign' coverage in MR244 was no more than a photograph of a quite superb forced perspective layout that was at the Warley exhibition. It was illustrated as a superb example of modeling craft which had been displayed in Britain and attracted a lot of interest from British modellers. (CJL)

[rue_d_etropal]

I would rather see plenty of examples of modelling, what ever country the model is of, rather than a narrow view of the hobby.

Not everyone models same scale, but there is usually a good mixture of scales and gauges, and there are sometimes negative comments. It is easy(just try it) to skip over those articles you are not interested in. Iquite often skip over(in my view) boring detailed articles either about electrics, or building some highly detailed metal kit. 

Lookback over past few years and many of the specialist magazines have disappeared. It is a broad church, our hobby, and many seem to miss out on so much of it. Their loss!

On the whole I have found foreign magazines have more British content than visa versa. One even has a regular report on Narrow Gauge at Swanley.

 

Fortunately we have Continental Modeller here in UK, where at least we can easily see the work of Emmanuel Nouaillier on a regular basis.

http://emmanuelnouaillierartworks.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-max=2016-01-21T22:28:00%2B01:00&max-results=5

 

but there are plenty of other suberb 'foreign' modellers out there, and as Chris said, the exhibit at Warley got a lot of interest from British modellers.

Edited February 4, 2018 by rue_d_etropal

[jjb1970]

Personally I would welcome overseas coverage in Model Railways but it is the job of the management team of the magazine to make decisions and understand their audience. We have Continental Modeller and Model Railroader is distributed here. One problem is that overseas railways is a huge subject and I find many enthusiasts of overseas railways have interests which are just as narrow of those only interested in UK trains. How many HO modellers have any interest in the railways of Japan, China, India, the continents of Africa, South America etc? The less popular areas (in UK terms) are often well served by the Internet.

[steve1]

JJB,

 

Guilty as charged I'm afraid. Europe (specifically Germany) and North America generally is my limit outside UK.

 

Whilst I know there is a wide world of railways, I cannot take in everything and so restrict my interests accordingly.

 

steve

[jjb1970]

JJB,

 

Guilty as charged I'm afraid. Europe (specifically Germany) and North America generally is my limit outside UK.

 

Whilst I know there is a wide world of railways, I cannot take in everything and so restrict my interests accordingly.

 

steve

And there is nothing wrong with that. No more than there is anything wrong with just having an interest in British trains (or even going further and having an interest in a particular company). I love Japanese railways but I recognise it's a bit of a left field interest here, my interest in European (mainly Italian, German and Swiss) trains and North American trains is served by existing mags if I want to buy them. Even Italian trains are a bit of a niche. There are huge parts of the railway globe I know nothing about and unless I visit those places have little interest in learning about.