RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2010 Details and pictures here: http://www.tgauge.co.uk/product/109/0/br-inter-city-125/e5387330c9aa607f56592969a238f7bc T Gauge seems to be really growing in popularity and the quality of some of the newest models no longer puts it in the novelty executive toy category. With the right controller, the trains are responsive with good slow-speed running, so the first RTR UK item can only be a good thing. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2010 Just been doing some calculations and it looks like the track gauge is wrong, I make it 3.175mm at 1:450th scale - maybe there should be a PT society Why am I still tempted with the DP1 kit, mayne also why I'm currently looking at an Optivisor on Amazon? Great news about the HST though, looks pretty good to me from the pics. The adjustable wagon/carriage chassis look ideal for scratchbuilding some coaches for DP1 too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2010 Does look good for it's size. Nice to see that there are some points available in T now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I am very excited about T gauge, as a 'taster' I bought an oval of track, controller, 'garden loco' (basically a slightly oversized continental diesel loco, useful for kitbashing!) and a bit of flexitrack to play with. The loco is an excellent runner on its own (excellent in a three millimetre sort of way... you have to adjust your expectations a little to take account of the tiny mechanism) but would be even better double heading or with a powered waggon or carriage behind it. I'm still trying to figure out a plan of what to do with it... this morning's idea is to create a mini Class 86/87 to go with some Virgin Mark III carriages. (this is amongst lots of plans!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 It strikes me that the scale would be perfect for representing miniature railways in larger scales. Out of curiosity, how big a miniature railway would T gauge represent if laid next to 00? My rough calculation puts it at roughly representing 10½" gauge on an 00 layout, though having never seen T gauge in the flesh I don't know how the sizes of what's available look next to 00 stock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 A bit of idle calculating I had posted on the 'Talking T Gauge' forum: Three mm gauge track in the smaller conventional scales: I have been thinking about some scratchbuilding projects to use the basic T-gauge chassis, based on British prototypes. I have some ideas based on British diesel.. (or even Gas turbine!!) designs, built to 1/450 scale. For steam however, I am keen to explore what can be done by using 3mm track to represent a narrow gauge prototype. The only tricky bit here is to decide what scale to use, if I was to use 1/220 scale, using continental Z gauge scenic parts, the track would be marginally too wide, using 1/148 scale (our own slightly oversized version of proper N gauge!) the track turns out a bit too narrow. Either way, its not far off right, either way it is a compromise. Using 1/148 has the advantages of letting me use scenic bits and pieces that I already own. (bearing in mind the prototype track gauge I'm after is 597mm, just under 2 foot) 3mm gauge in 1/148= 444mm gauge 3mm gauge in 1/160= 480mm gauge 3mm gauge in 1/220= 660mm gauge I guess that given the thickness of the rails themselves, you could consider the apparent size of the track to be a fair bit bigger than 3mm, I reckon if T-flex comes out looking the way it appears in the photos we have seen, it would serve pretty well as a sort of 'generic pretty narrow' gauge in either of the usual N scales. The problem is creating a working model of a steam locomotive in such a small size, for now Im certain that it is beyond me, or at least, beyond me to scratchbuild realistic working motion. Or maybe there is an answer, one of these... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAR_NGG_16_Class By modelling a Garratt, at such a small scale, you have a loco type that could reasonably sit on a standard, shortened, driving coach chassis (the 'pony wheels' at either end could be simply 'suggested'). This would allow a model of a section of the Welsh Highland Railway, with its tight corners and rugged scenery it makes an attractive proposition. One interesting challenge would be to make an N gauge / T gauge crossover, like the one at Porthmadog 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrhos1920 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Does look good for it's size. Nice to see that there are some points available in T now. And scratch built? I'll have to see if Templot has T gauge already set up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 One cheeky idea crossed my mind, if you are stuck trying to work out a prototype location to base a T gauge model on, you could always go to an exhibition, pick out a layout that you like, and make a model of that! For instance, Wyre Forest MRC's 'Kinlet Wharf' (N gauge, modern image, HST-territory) sits on three main scenic boards. With T gauge being roughly a third of the linear size, a facsimilie of the layout could be built on just one of those boards! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2010 It is something of a testiment to Eishindo's constant steps to improve their mechanisms that models such as this have come into reality. Still remember the suspect running evident in the first genration of motors, which could easily have killed T Gauge as soon as it was released... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2010 The possibilities for sweeping landscapes like on the Glennfinnan demo layout at Warley are what tempts me most. Now if they could do a 37 and sprinters you could model the West Highland properly. The HST with a full rake will look very good indeed on something like the sea wall at Dawlish. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 26, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2010 And scratch built? I'll have to see if Templot has T gauge already set up. On what code track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 maybe there should be a PT society And scratch built? I'll have to see if Templot has T gauge already set up. This may be of interest - David K Smith seems to like building small things by hand! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ste234 Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I'm very sorely tempted to indulge in one of these, and have a narrow little scenic layout... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Just been doing some calculations and it looks like the track gauge is wrong, I make it 3.175mm at 1:450th scale - maybe there should be a PT society Actually for the Japanese models done so far the track gauge is too wide as they have all been 3'6" (1067mm) gauge EMUs which would mean 2.71mm gauge track - only the Shinkansen lines are Standard Gauge. You could argue the scale should be 1:355.666. Oh, and the obvious scale for 597/600mm gauge lines on T track would surely be 1:200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etched Pixels Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 I can only wish that they would use 1:480 as the europeans are doing to get correct standard gauge track, and of course fit more in 8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 [Tangent] Does the advent of this commercial scale demand an 'Even Smaller Suppliers' section be added to the 'Products' section? I'll get me coat... [/Tangent] 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nackerty Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 HST at Falkirk show. It DOES run very slowly if required. Also they had Mk1 coach overlays for a fiver!!!!!! Why did Z scale never get this kind of support? Anyway I got this picture on my phone. Note the £ coin for scale. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 It strikes me that the scale would be perfect for representing miniature railways in larger scales. Out of curiosity, how big a miniature railway would T gauge represent if laid next to 00? My rough calculation puts it at roughly representing 10½" gauge on an 00 layout, though having never seen T gauge in the flesh I don't know how the sizes of what's available look next to 00 stock. In 4mm (00/Em/P4) scale, 3mm gauge track should work out to 9" gauge - slightly over half the size of the R,H&D!!! Interestingly I see they now do 'Wider Sleeper' flextrack: http://www.tgauge.co...eper-flexitrack - the possibilities are endless! One could represent a keen modellers miniature garden railway on a 7mm layout (5" gauge!) or a 4mm layout (9" gauge?!?), an 18" gauge line in 2mm scale, a 'proper' 2' NG railway in Z scale or of course, a full size line in T scale! Apologies for mixing metaphors (scale/gauges) there, hopefully you see what I mean. This reminds me of a letter I read in an old magazine (MRC?) whereby a resident of one of her Majesties correctional establishments was contemplating a model of the ECML as seen from the WCML!! It certainly gives the lie to those who say they have no room for a layout! (unless of course, they are at her Majesty's leisure!). Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted November 28, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2010 There's a rather good video on YouTube of the T Gauge HST running as a 6-car set. I love the way it just vanishes into the landscape... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted November 28, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2010 So Cpn E are you doing overlays to convert it to modern liveries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted November 28, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 28, 2010 There's a rather good video on YouTube of the T Gauge HST running as a 6-car set. I love the way it just vanishes into the landscape... Does look rather effective at doesn't it. Do you know if it reliably goes slower than that? Looking at the speed that it is travelling at you should be able to get it to haul a scale length train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 My 'garden train loco', a single car generic freight loco, with a bit of running in and some very small scale track cleaning 'elbow grease' will reliably run much slower than that... not quite a crawl, but a sensible scale speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43179 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Are my eyes playing tricks - or have they even done a TGS B) (on the left in that picture above) Better not bring one out in 'Swallow' livery or ill be in trouble... tfn Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Hmmmmm.... Twyford - Reading - Tilehurst in 82 feet to scale. Painting it in Fag Packet could be tricky! Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will J Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 It seems that with some simple electronics, a totally standard T gauge model can be slowed to an impressive crawl... ...the circuitry is based on a 555 timer, something I recall from school days, and may need to revisit! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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