That is looking very good! I, too, enjoy the process of adding little details like these and 19th century details are often a bit different from later ones. Drummond wasn't alone in using socket lamp irons, they were the norm on the GWR up to about 1902 and the LNWR also had them, maybe other companies too. Of course, each design was different from all the others.

Nick

Thanks Nick

I did not know so many others used the socket type irons. I have just noticed the bad joint at the front of the sand box. Must rectify that, I think photos help to show up mistakes.

Nice work with the lamp irons, I look forward to progress on this alternative Terrier, I did a profile of this in LSWR livery. It was one of my early efforts, so not sure if I got all this detail.

I think that companies tried to make sure that their lamps didn't fit other companies ones, so they didn't get nicked.

Thanks Matthew

I suppose that was most possibly the case for the lamp irons,

I have a few photos of this in LSWR livery, I will be finiishing this one in SR livery, as in 1930. I like the combination of the stove pipe chimney and safety valves in the dome. Mind you it seems to be different in every photo, but the same livery.

Looking very good. Victorian locos could get surprisingly busy with adornments, but we often see past them to the graceful designs underneath...selective vision!

Up until 1885 the GER used 'sockets and spoons' for lamps; sockets on the buffer beams and spoon-shaped brackets on the smokebox from which lamps hung by their handles. I'll bet they swung all over the place! With the advent of Holden from the GWR in 1885 he very quickly ripped the lot out and replaced them with irons.

That's looking really nice Peter, between your build and Ian's (Lancastrian on the Guild site) I am becoming more confident that I can make something decent of my ACE J52.

Looking very good. Victorian locos could get surprisingly busy with adornments, but we often see past them to the graceful designs underneath...selective vision!Up until 1885 the GER used 'sockets and spoons' for lamps; sockets on the buffer beams and spoon-shaped brackets on the smokebox from which lamps hung by their handles. I'll bet they swung all over the place! With the advent of Holden from the GWR in 1885 he very quickly ripped the lot out and replaced them with irons.

I am not surprised they got rid of hahging them by the handle. Would never of worked south of the Thames the lines were never that flat, think they would loose all the lamps.

That's looking really nice Peter, between your build and Ian's (Lancastrian on the Guild site) I am becoming more confident that I can make something decent of my ACE J52.

Thanks, I am sure you will be fine with the J52. They are far from state of the art kits, but for the money I think they give you a good reprensentation of the loco. My main

criticism is that that the chassis is narrow, but a lot etched kits are like that,