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No kit either, all models I've seen are all static and handbuilt.

No, I don't think there has ever been any RTR model that looks like the Nilgiri X Class. There have only been static models

Images of the pre-production samples of the Heljan Class 60 1) The drive system and interior detail https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151945395143207&set=pcb.10151945397138207&type=1&relevant_count=3 2) The compressor and underframe detail https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151945395138207&set=pcb.10151945397138207&type=1&relevant_count=2 3) Side profile https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151945395148207&set=a.371681018206.157212.176420418206&type=1&relevant_count=1 4) General view https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151945395168207&set=a.371681018206.157212.176420418206&type=1&relevant_count=1 Cheers!!

Thanks, I went by the post on the "2014 Announcements" thread here. I believe that at the start prices were not confirmed so there were changes.

They are the higher spec variant. It's immediately noticeable from the price of the models. Hornby did say that the new TTS sound would add 25 quid to the model. So if you compare the A4 and A3 to the P2, A1 and DoG you will get your answer A3 and A4 sell at an MRP of 99.99 P2, DoG and A1 sell at an MRP of 154.99 Cheers! J

You've done a lovely job!!! This is something Hornby could have easily done for an RTR model but their lack in being able to plan properly has taken them down. If they felt that we had a problem with a price they could have done two things - Check the price themselves, because we know for a fact that their models are over-priced (it's a hard thing to do, but if they do a good job and do their home work properly then they would know how to get a model to sell well) - Give us a quality product that was worth the price There are a lot of inconsistencies with Design-Clever. If you look at the 2BIL, 2HAL then DC has worked very well. Even the EP samples of the Drumond Class 700 looks nice. The P2 looks fairly good. The DoG could have easily been much better. The DC wagons are just OK and the Mk1s are pretty good for their price. Regarding Hornby's pricing strategy I have no clue about that. The 2014 releases of the Class 60 and 31 are 155 quid and more RRP.

A nice clear image of the CAD version http://www.tower-models.com/towermodels/ogauge/Heljan/locos/class60/class60cad.jpg

Since I am not in the UK I will wait for your images!!!

What livery are the yellow Class 66s going to be in?

Fair enough, but I always ask RoS and MF also for updates and why do their's differ when compared to attons? I've always know the info given by MF and RoS to be more accurate and similar to what Hornby also tell me. It's a personal experience with Hattons that I've had and I haven't said they are bad.

I've no issue with Hattons but I have always know them to give wrong info about models re: details and delivery dates. When it comes to the Sentinel I have always followed updates from Hornby and RoS and they seemed to be accurate. Looking lovely Richard, waiting to see your further updates

Thank you so much for the added explanation M.Riddle Much appreciated. I tried explaining it to frobisher, I gave clear evidence that it is indeed a CG image. It's now upto him to either believe us or not. I did my part and gave what seems like solid evidence re: the coal load, greyish body (instead of black), white coupling rods instead of silvery) and floating wheels. Thanks once again.

It really isn't rocket science to judge by the looks of the images that it is a CG image. To add to that the simulated coal load, extremely whitesh connecting rods & wheels and the tender wheels hanging in the air are a complete give-away - There lies your evidence. If it was indeed a EP sample there would have been better images and the colour of the shell will be completely different. It is a well edited CG image. You can disagree to this but I am sure by the images that it isn't a EP sample. To me the colour, coal load, connecting rods etc are a give-away and seem to be like a CG image. If the model was like this (see image below) I would have been a little confused. If it were an EP sample it would have looked like the model below.

Hornby had stated that the RailRoad range is going to witness a big change in the coming years. I think after ther re-branding in Feb we shall get to know.

How many of these type of Sentinels are in use today (i.e. the type that Hornby made) and does anyone have images of them? I can't access flickr so that was a blow

The CAD images shown on RMWeb and on Hornby's website was clear enough for me to understand this models features. - It is a RailRoad model. (I hope the livery is applied well though) - Most of the model has wire handrails except the handrail on the cabside. - The chassis is completely new tooling as I heard from Hornby and I think Graham Muz has also said the same. @Frobisher Here is the image of the CAD and someproof that it is indeed a CAD image and not an EP sample. The image also shows where exactly are the wire handrails and where is the moulded one. Hope this helps

It is a CAD image. Not an EP sample I have explained it.

Hey All, I am absolutely pathetic at Photoshop so I've used MS Paint for this. I'm not sure but I think there are only 2 well known Co-Co AC Electrics on BR (i.e. Class 89 and Class 92) So here is my take on a Co-Co AC Electric locomotive for passenger services. It is done is EWS/First ScotRail livery. This is my first shot at something like this so please bear that in mind. Thanks in advance for all likes, compliments, criticism and disagrees

What will the handrails and window grills be made off? Are they going to be from shapeways of are you talking about brass etches? I need window grills myself. Hoping you can explain a little more Cheers!

One of my Mehano BO-BO diesels has a similar arrangement.

That's the very date Hornby have been telling me for the last month

The chips are available already the Sentinels are due between end of November and mid December

Hi Richard, here is the DCC chip. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/product/39834/X9659_Hornby_DCC_Decoder_for_use_with_Sentinel_Diesel_Locomotive

Hi Dave, In my opinion, I think you should go with a centrally mounted motor that sits below the cab window. It would be nice it it was concealed with a grey lump of plastic (something similar posted before??). The idea of a PCB in the fuel tank also seems excellent. J