Bluemonkey presents.... Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Your first was excellent. Keep well and warm, best have a wee dram to ensure full recovery. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 Almost ready for installation, hopefully will be getting the sandpaper for the platform surface tomorrow, after which this can be installed on the layout 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 25, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2020 In the end I did manage a little time in the garage, and have set up a Wi-fi plug on the heater so the room can be pre heated... as a result the modifications to the foam core for the vicarage road bridge are complete, and the walls have been cut or size. Taking these back inside, they have now been fitted with the inner edges of the road and are ready for the prep of bricks to commence tomorrow. I also bought in the house which will overlook the western approach to the station (a change to the prototype building to better fit the changed landscape west of Vicarage Road). This was built for a previous layout, but not finished on one side. This now has been clad in SE Finecast embossed sheet and will be gaining a chimney breast once it has cured. I will then need to remember the paint mix used when originally painting it, or alternatively I need a convincing way of painting a whitewashed house... finally, I bought the footbridge inside to make a start on painting it over the next few weeks. It still needs the smoke deflectors fitting and the curved brackets on the sides. The latter will be added once the dark stone has been painted to assist masking). So far the first coat of light stone and brown for the wooden steps has been applied, the second cost should be on tomorrow before getting stated with the more difficult job with the dark stone later in the week. finallt the water crane is now in place (temporarily) on the platform I have been giving thought to the grass areas, currently debating between applying static grass straight to the plaster or using a grass mat as a base and adding the static grass on top... 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 26, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2020 Lots of painting, nothing finished was the story of tonight. With the walls slowly progressing (but taking a little longer than normal as I couldn’t remember my usual paint mix.) I have also been getting on with the paint on the footbridge. The light stone is now pretty much down, and a rough coat of dark stone has been added to most of the areas that were still in bare primer. Painting the rest will take some time given the need for a lot of precision masking! finally I now have the sand paper needed for the platform surface. Meaning another job can soon start, just need to work out how I will build up the banks behind the up platform before installing the surface 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 27, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2020 Two areas of work this evening, first up the retaining walls. All have now been painted with the first 2 stages. While one side of three parts had reached the final step. 1, bricks are picked out in various shades, for something in the background a shortcut I have used is a black sharpy marker. 2, a mix comprising 3 or 4 shades is roughly painted over the whole area. In this case I used two applications, a dark mix of track colour and RES grey, then my stone mix of LNER red oxide, track colour and concrete. This is only roughly mixed aiming for a different shade each time the brush is loaded. It needs to be a very messy job with variations in colour and density of paint. 3, the final step is a thick coat of a mortar colour. I use Vallejo buff with a bit of leather. This is immediately wiped off leaving paint in the mortar grooves (and a general dulling of the rest). A weathering cost can then be applied if needed. On the left is stage 2, the right stage 3 attention then moved back to the footbridge, lots of painting to get the dark stone added. I then set about adding the curved loops to the sides. These were superglued in place wising 60thou by 10 thou plastic around a tube former. They now need painting once dry, before adding the glazing to the west side of the bridge. With the at done I can finally add the roof. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 28, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 The focus this evening has been the roof, a rather fiddly endeavour due to the modifications made to the core kit. Before fitting the roof glazing was added to the west facing side. but it is coming together, unfortunately I’ve broken one of the curved parts on the side (which will be a real pain to fix now). Three jobs remain, Add the pipe on the far side Add the facia panel around the edge of the roof Finally more paint. All of the retaining walls are now fully painted and ready for installation on the layout later in the week. 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 28, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 28, 2020 repairs to the damaged part now fixed, joints in roof filled with Vallejo filler (my first time using it, I was impressed). The pipe has been added to the right hand side, and a start has been made on the facia. tomorrow night I want to finish the facia and fit the smoke deflectors, plus hopefully finish the paint... 16 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 29, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 hours ago, The Fatadder said: repairs to the damaged part now fixed, joints in roof filled with Vallejo filler (my first time using it, I was impressed). The pipe has been added to the right hand side, and a start has been made on the facia. tomorrow night I want to finish the facia and fit the smoke deflectors, plus hopefully finish the paint... Ah, the infamous stench pipe! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2020 I couldn’t face any more plasticard onto the bridge, so did a spot of lunchtime weathering on 1470. Aiming to hide where I had been removing the bunker steps it had already had the smoke box painted grey black, and a weathering mix over the cab roof, frames and footplate. Today it got further treatment with tamyia powders to finish it off. It’s probably nowhere near as dirty as the real thing would have been in 47, but I’d say it’s dirty enough for my liking bottom two photos were before weathering 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 18 hours ago, The Fatadder said: filled with Vallejo filler Hi Rich, I have also used the Vallejo filler, which is the acrylic based one, and have found it tends to remain soft for quite some time, up to a week even in a warm environment. Have you found this to be the case too, which lead to waiting prior to painting, any thoughts ? G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2020 I will keep an eye on it, but so far the applications I have used it for so far have dried fine. I like the fine nozzle for application pretty handy as well, though I can’t see it taking long until it is clogged up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 29, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 29, 2020 And now it’s finished (bar a dusting of weathering from the airbrush at a later date.) As mentioned before it is pretty much first on the chopping block once the layout is more complete. I hadn’t noticed at the time but it’s far too tall, as well as not being long enough (though the latter is something of a blessing in disguise as my bay platform is narrower than the prototype.) I would love to replace with an etched version, there was a kit mooted by Mark Humphrys a couple of years back. (The test etch of which looked amazing at Scalefourm, all be it incredibly complicated to build). Otherwise it will be starting from scratch in plastic. Discrepancies aside it’s been a fun build, and has resulted in a structure which will at least look the part as the layout develops. I will add a few better photos tomorrow once it’s on the layout 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 31, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2020 The bridge is now temporarily installed on the layout, I can’t live with the height issue so it’s going to have to be replaced. However first I need to build the canopy on the up platform, and build the down waiting room (on which the canopy will be intergrated with the roof.) This will allow me to verify if I need to keep the narrowed width. I think it’s a bit tricky, as I have a feeling due to the narrowing of the down platform a scale width bridge wouldn’t fit. This will leave a question between changing the size of the panels (to keep 8 or have 6 larger panels) or an odd number (I think at a rough guess it would need 7 panels. Will also need to source another Hornby kit for its roof and steps (though this time will likely do my own vallance on the cutter.) I have a plan for adding an extra layer to the build with the rivet detail as well... Moving on to Vicarage Road, the retaining walls have now been added to the south side, with the bridge pillars also glued into position. In theory the deck should still be removable allowing access for weathering the track. More work is needed with the pink foam to add the road for the north side of the bridge ( without which the walls can’t be added). Along with the slope of the hill as it comes down towards the station 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 31, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 31, 2020 A little more progress, with the bricks painted on the water tower, along with painting the water tank in light stone. tomorrow I will add the mortar onto the building, and the dark stone onto the tank. Before finishing off later in the week. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2020 11 hours ago, The Fatadder said: The bridge is now temporarily installed on the layout, I can’t live with the height issue so it’s going to have to be replaced. Could you remove a panel from the steps? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2020 8 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Could you remove a panel from the steps? Maybe, but I have a strong suspicion if I try the whole thing is going to self destruct. Given there are a few areas it could be improved I think starting again seems sensible particularly as it means I can sort the width issue as well 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2020 The water tower is progressing well, but I need to wrk out how the door should be painted. Based on the painting instructions for water towers it refers to goods shed doors (light stone with a dark stone boarder.) however I have seen a photo of a model of this building which had the door painted with the lower half dark stone and upper half light stone. Prototype photos are too distant to be conclusive... any thoughts? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2020 a little more painting on the water tower slowly starting to come together. The tank and building have now been glued together (just after taking the photo) and the pull-up wheel for the measurement gauge has been added. The gauge itself needs scratch building as it’s a different design to the kit, and will be added tomorrow. That just leaves the platform and ladder, the ladder in the kit is too short (as my building is higher than ratio’s) so will need replacing. lack of photos is proving a real hinderance, But as far as I can make out there is a platform above the corrugated roof on the right hand side. The structure supporting which must be hidden under the roof. once the platform is in place I will then finally paint the roof grey, and add the water level markings. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Is it possible that the bottom of the doors on the water tower were painted in No4? chocolate brown to protect them and hide marks the same way that the lower part of engine shed and signal box doors were and that is what you are looking at in the old photographs? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 1, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrWolf said: Is it possible that the bottom of the doors on the water tower were painted in No4? chocolate brown to protect them and hide marks the same way that the lower part of engine shed and signal box doors were and that is what you are looking at in the old photographs? That would make a lot of sense, especially as the painting guidance referred to goods sheds. I still haven’t found a photo of another door without the 2 inch frame around the edge to compete against. ( though that not overly surprising as I have very few structural images other than Brent) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I could be wrong, but I haven't seen many photos of GWR doors like that in colour, they were always on the buildings of lower status. You have two simple ledged and braced doors there. Most colour photographs show ledged, braced and framed doors (as on many goods sheds) The painting on those is hanging rail, head rail, shut rail, dark stone. Outer frame of door dark stone. Vertical centre boards, light stone. Exposed ironworks, black. The bottom 4ft was in some cases chocolate brown. Doors like the simple ledged and braced ones on your water tower were often fitted singly to PW huts and apparently painted dark stone. (The rest of the building being black tarred) The large head beam on your model puts me in mind of goods sheds. Painting of those seems to vary. If it were my model I would probably go for all over dark stone including the head rail, then the bottom 4ft in chocolate brown. The hinges I expect would be black. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 2, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2020 The ladder still needs brackets adding and gluing into place once installed on the layout. I have also now added (after taking these photos) a first application of weathering to tone down the tank. 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 3, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2020 I have now moved the water tower out to the layout, and taken the merchants building back inside for painting. before doing so I couldn’t resist a photo of the building in position. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 4, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 Thanks to a kind member of the GWR Facebook group for producing the transfers, 4025 is now finally finished with the “Star Class” branding added in the location of the former Italian Monarch nameplates. With that done it was treated to a coat of Dullcoat and the completion of the weathering. (For now at least) Last night in preparation the cab roof, tender top and smoke box got a coat of grey black. Along with the frames / footplate sides. Once the dullcoat was dry, it was then given a going over with Tamiya weathering powders to finish off. The brass safety valve bonnet needs toning down further, I think from the photo it is brass (the chimney top is certainly copper), but the bonnet is very dirty so it’s hard to tell. Other than that the model has the shelf replaced with a wire handrail, for the moment the vertical cab handrail has been left alone as I’m concerned about strength of a glued replacement (whereas I’d have been happy to soldered the wire in place) 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2020 Were there many of the Stars like this in our period Rich . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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