Jump to content

experimental

APT POP TRAIN Kit (under design & construction)

Recommended Posts

Hi All,

I have started work on a POP 1 3d printed model kit, and will post on here progress reports.

 

Kit will be available for purchase hopefully when I am happy with the model.

 

My name is Paul Leadley and I setup and run the APT-E Conservation & Support Group which have been slowly restoring APT-E since the year 2000.  Mr Tilt (Kit Spackman) of APT-E and RMweb fame is also involved in the models design, so it should be pretty close to the real thing.  Model is currently 00 but I also plan to do an "N" gauge kit if possible, spy glass at the ready.

 

Post any questions or ideas and lets see what we end up with.

 

Long live the APT.

 

Paul

 

Last two photos are of a very early prototype running on a friends (Mel Jardines brilliant layout), proof of concept really.

 

Still lots to do, and improve......

 

Video is of the early prototypes first ever run :- short but sweet.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYQ3D8hX9f0

 

post-1299-0-48685500-1472131027_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-20015600-1472131034_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-09424100-1472131041_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-65301200-1472131047_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-69877200-1472131211_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-91069500-1472131307_thumb.jpg

Edited by experimental
  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Looks good, do you have any idea about the rough price of these please, a ballpark figure will do!

 

Either way I think I will be having one thank you.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not really sure about price, as I haven't worked out the costs yet, wheel sets being the most expensive item, but its looking at around £50-£60 (Ball park), I would say.

 

I will give a more accurate price when the design is complete.

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Paul

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Paul,

 

WOW!!

 

Can't wait for the shrink ray to be aimed at this and get it shrunk for N Gauge.

 

Does it include a 3d printed Kit (Mr.Tilt) as well

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not really sure about price, as I haven't worked out the costs yet, wheel sets being the most expensive item, but its looking at around £50-£60 (Ball park), I would say.

 

I will give a more accurate price when the design is complete.

 

Thanks for your interest.

 

Paul

That is accurate enough thank you, thats a definite order from me then!

 

And thank you for putting the time and effort into doing these projects.

Does it include a 3d printed Kit (Mr.Tilt) as well

And is it the young or not so young version?

Edited by royaloak
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great looking project, and as said a 1:148 version would be great fun for us N gaugers. 

 

Thanks for finding time - a lot I guess, to create the drawings and see through to the "real thing."

 

Robert 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Paul,

 

WOW!!

 

Can't wait for the shrink ray to be aimed at this and get it shrunk for N Gauge.

 

Does it include a 3d printed Kit (Mr.Tilt) as well

LOL, will see what I can do, also a Malc Wilson.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Great looking project, and as said a 1:148 version would be great fun for us N gaugers. 

 

Thanks for finding time - a lot I guess, to create the drawings and see through to the "real thing."

 

Robert 

Thanks for the support Robert, Mr Tilt mainly works in N gauge so it needs to be done lol.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PC 4 under construction, second draft.

 

Both cars could do with thinner bulkheads and framework, if it can be printed strong enough, Im working on it.....

 

Cabins need internal details, tilt pack, HK brake pack, seats and table.

Edited by experimental

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Awesome news and will be a must have for my layout. What loco typically pulled them or was it whatever was at hand? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Awesome news and will be a must have for my layout. What loco typically pulled them or was it whatever was at hand? 

 

A host of locos pulled POP train, mainline, class 25,37, 45,50 and class 87001.  On the test track it was the Class 17 Clayton (including smoke and fire most of the time).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

PC 4 under construction, second draft.

 

Both cars could do with thinner bulkheads and framework, if it can be printed strong enough, Im working on it.....

 

Cabins need internal details, tilt pack, HK brake pack, seats and table.

 

A quick update, prototype E1/t bogies well on the way now.

 

I am looking for 10.5 mm wheels, at present I am using Hornby 12.5mm disc wheels which look ok, but not perfect.

 

Paul

post-1299-0-91191900-1472231169_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-38099900-1472231183_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-88457000-1472231194_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-93251100-1472231215_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-68666000-1472231228_thumb.jpg

post-1299-0-28125300-1472231252_thumb.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A quick update, prototype E1/t bogies well on the way now.

 

I am looking for 10.5 mm wheels, at present I am using Hornby 12.5mm disc wheels which look ok, but not perfect.

 

Paul

 

Kadee do a couple of 10.5mm wheels. They do them in two profiles http://kadee.com/htmbord/page532.htm and http://kadee.com/htmbord/page522.htm. I bought a few from DC Kits a couple of years ago, no doubt there'll be other UK stockists as well.

 

They are listed as 36" but that's 10.5mm in H0 in case anyone thinks that they are 12mm diameter.

 

(Ponders if I can include a POP on my present-day RVEL/RTC layout......)

 

Cheers,

Mick

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've already got the Clayton, so I'll have to have one for it to pull.

 

There was recently a thread on ideas for the next RMweb challenge. How about the POP train challenge?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Showing my ignorance,

which I know I can on RMweb,

what does POP stand for!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

May I just say, that looks excellent! 

Superb work by all involved. Finding an excuse to run it on the present day WCML (Hired by Alstom?).

 

Keep up the good work,

Wild Boar Fell

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Kadee do a couple of 10.5mm wheels. They do them in two profiles http://kadee.com/htmbord/page532.htm and http://kadee.com/htmbord/page522.htm. I bought a few from DC Kits a couple of years ago, no doubt there'll be other UK stockists as well.

 

They are listed as 36" but that's 10.5mm in H0 in case anyone thinks that they are 12mm diameter.

 

(Ponders if I can include a POP on my present-day RVEL/RTC layout......)

 

Cheers,

Mick

 

Brilliant, thanks Mike for the info, will give them a bash, cheers

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Showing my ignorance,

which I know I can on RMweb,

what does POP stand for!

 

POP means POWER - 0 - POWER.

 

Its two mock powercars with nothing between them hence POP.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

May I just say, that looks excellent! 

Superb work by all involved. Finding an excuse to run it on the present day WCML (Hired by Alstom?).

 

Keep up the good work,

Wild Boar Fell

 

POP was tested on the WCML, there is the reason you need lol.

 

Thanks for the kind works.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Paul, Does it include a 3d printed Kit (Mr.Tilt) as well

If the 3d printed model of him was in several parts and had to be assembled, it would be a Kit kit. Boom-boom!

 

I'll get my coat...

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A host of locos pulled POP train, mainline, class 25,37, 45,50 and class 87001.  On the test track it was the Class 17 Clayton (including smoke and fire most of the time).

 

You forgot the Class 47 Paul. We used a re-geared 47 on the ECML Peterborough-Newcastle runs, and often on the Test Track too. We used Peaks on the Test Track as well, one of which was involved in the 'January 9th Incident' of course.

 

Only the 'Young Kit' version would be authentic for use on a POP Train model, that's the one with the Marsha Hunt hair, kipper tie and mega-flares.

 

7kYpLg.jpg

 

 

D1jo2h.jpg

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a small version of my POP Train drawing that Paul's been using for his 3D model. It's not finished by any means yet, but it's good enough for government work....

 

 

 

MIy0X1.jpg

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You forgot the Class 47 Paul. We used a re-geared 47 on the ECML Peterborough-Newcastle runs, and often on the Test Track too. We used Peaks on the Test Track as well, one of which was involved in the 'January 9th Incident' of course.

 

Only the 'Young Kit' version would be authentic for use on a POP Train model, that's the one with the Marsha Hunt hair, kipper tie and mega-flares.

 

7kYpLg.jpg

 

 

D1jo2h.jpg

 

That must have been draughty riding in the open like that?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.