ess1uk Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Or you could cut the trees back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Or you could cut the trees back Yes but we all know the sorts of silly headlines that leads to. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/apr/29/millions-of-trees-at-risk-in-secretive-network-rail-felling-programme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2018 In BR days there was a fleet of de-icing units. But there was not also a fleet of rail-squirting machines. However as a partial offset there was also not a nationwide fleet of disc-braked stock. Tread brakes always went some way towards removing leaf slime from wheels but could never be the full and complete answer. Of interest here is that the most recent deliveries to SWR namely class 707 includes some tread-braked wheels along with all the other systems. These units have generally performed better in recent weeks that class 444 and 450 units in terms of adhesion during the leaf season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2018 I seem to recall being told by someone (or possibly reading it somewhere) that trees were planted (and left) on cutting & embankment sides to stabilise the ground and prevent bank slips. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted November 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2018 I seem to recall being told by someone (or possibly reading it somewhere) that trees were planted (and left) on cutting & embankment sides to stabilise the ground and prevent bank slips. Thats just an excuse to justify years of neglect. While its true that in some parts of the world, trees do have an important role in holding back the soil and preventing it being washed into rivers, being blown away in the wind leading to deserts expanding, etc such considerations do not generally apply in the UK. Much depends on the underlying soil conditions - several embankments on the South East route have needed serious work this Autumn to correct trackbed levels due to the clay core shrinking back in the summer for example and trees sucking moisture out from them won't have helped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Unless it's a very significant slope almost any sort of vegetation will do the job and prevent soil from being washed away during rainfall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Latest developments at Bournemouth Depot, courtesy of Son of Ceptic. Many a good tune played on an old fiddle, they say. Variations on a theme, anyone ? Note the Mk.3 4-TC. With Best Wishes throughout the New Year, everyone. Frank. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Interesting thread 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted December 28, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2018 Still no sign of the first pair re-entering traffic during December (never mind all of them from the timetable “change”) as suggested. Though the month isn’t over until a larger-than-average person identifying as female has aired her voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowperil Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 I wouldn’t count on it, still lots to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 I guess that as this thread has gone quiet that they are not running? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 There was one at Wimbledon yesterday. Think it was hanging out of the wheel lathe shed, but I'm not that familiar with the site. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2019 They are not yet in traffic but are running daily on various training and shakedown runs. Seen this week in Wimbledon and Portsmouth as well as on the Bournemouth main line. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted February 8, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 06/02/2018 at 20:08, Ian J. said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-hampshire-42960895/plastic-pig-trains-undergo-revamp-in-eastleigh I don’t know if it was spotted elsewhere, but I couldn’t help notice the irony in the BBC reporters statement that these trains were preferred by passengers as they were more comfortable... as most interior scenes focussed on removing the old seats. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 23/11/2018 at 10:44, Ray H said: I seem to recall being told by someone (or possibly reading it somewhere) that trees were planted (and left) on cutting & embankment sides to stabilise the ground and prevent bank slips. There is a specialist plant almost designed to be used to prevent the erosion of embankment and cutting sides, that does not draw too much water, provide cover to burrowing animals, cause wind drag, shed leaves or block the line when it dies and falls over it is known on the railway as grass. Trees are a menace and should be removed from all railway earthworks. 4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Word on the grapevine suggested that four 442 units should've entered revenue earning service this past Monday, 08/04/19. There appears to be some sort of delay. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted April 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 12, 2019 I saw two yesterday on 5Q30 from Fratton to Bournemouth, I couldnt catch the numbers though (dont know if anyone can help) http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/Q25209/2019/04/11/advanced last night around 9pm 2 were on Fratton Depot, again no idea the numbers. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Four units (two 10 cars) were wanted for driver and guard training, but not doable unfortunately. Managed two for the Monday, with a 3rd given the ok. There's been some issues, so a fourth unit hasn't materialised as yet. It's all a little bit up in the air, as an issue was discovered two weeks ago that needs checking and addressing. Won't say anymore than that at the moment! @adb968008 The two units yesterday might well have been 442408 & 442411. Andy. 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shed Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Are they out and about yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 There's been a few out and about during the last week or so, mainly for guard and driver training. By the looks of things, 8 should be availible for services to start on May 19th. That'll be 6 in use and 2 spares. Andy. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Latest publicised news, via ITV Meridian News tonight. https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2019-05-01/south-western-railways-timetable-to-see-its-biggest-shake-up-for-20-years/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Two 10-car sets were out and about yesterday for staff training. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 Would help if I attached the pics..... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Would help if I attached the pics..... After all these years they are still such good-looking units. SWT did them no favours by extending the yellow up the full height of the connecting doors - this new paint job suits them much better (though, for me, they will always look sleekest in brand-new NSE Express livery). Thanks for the pics. Paul 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 01/05/2019 at 18:23, Ceptic said: Latest publicised news, via ITV Meridian News tonight. https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2019-05-01/south-western-railways-timetable-to-see-its-biggest-shake-up-for-20-years/ The ITV report seemed a bit better than the BBC one, as they seemed to put a negative spin on it. Though, the ITV guys had to re-take a part of their report as we'd fired up a Class 159 for testing in the middle of it! Oops! Nice to see the pics of them out and about too. Andy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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