hmrspaul Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) There are a huge variety of vatiations in TEAs. Stating the obvious - You need to pick ones with the longest timespan and vaiety of liveries. If it ran on the western region in the mid to late 80s I am interested They did http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/brtbogietank2/e18f481cb http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/amocoelftea/e798669ff There were different users of this basic design in the 1980s. Paul Edited March 9, 2018 by hmrspaul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The tank that points to are not the same ones Paul. The ones that Alex posted are diagram TE009 I believe. You have them on your site but I can't find them at the moment! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The tank that points to are not the same ones Paul. The ones that Alex posted are diagram TE009 I believe. You have them on your site but I can't find them at the moment! I'm only pointing to the general type, a TEA with a straight solebar. Every tank wagon type has unique features so it is important for firms to avoid falling into the trap of only doing a singleton. Quite what Alex was pointing to I don't know. He shouldn't have been posted my photos on here, but didn't appear to know how to link to them which is very easy using the squiggle above each photo. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) I'm sure that he meant no harm. But yes there are many varieties of TEA, I have spent many a delightful hour browsing your site for suitable prototypes for TEAs in the past. Very valuable resource. When producing a model though we can only choose one and it needs to be different to Bachmanns offering yet allow them to run together. Anyway a link to some pictures of them in Wales. Not sure how western region they ran. http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagonphotographs/h1d044810 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/paulbartlettsrailwaywagonphotographs/h178f1acf Edited March 9, 2018 by RBE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The tank that points to are not the same ones Paul. The ones that Alex posted are diagram TE009 I believe. You have them on your site but I can't find them at the moment! The search works really well on the site. Many of them in the collection Alex was pointing to http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/totalclassatea - a South Wales wagon. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) My layout is going to be South Wales based. Edited March 9, 2018 by BR Blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric709 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Different bodies on different chassis by different Works/Contractors over a long conversion period. At least two body styles have an A and B version. One chassis has and A and B version. Worms, Open, Can, Of! I suspect that this is why Hornby quietly dropped their proposed model to come out along side the OTA. MC Indeed but could the same not be said for plenty of other models that’s been produced? In theory you could pick a certain diagram number, body type, chassis, buffer type etc and run with it....in the much the same vein as the current PGA, how many different builds of those are they? Probably a dozen or more body types before you start drilling down into the detail. Got to start somewhere haven’t you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm only pointing to the general type, a TEA with a straight solebar. Every tank wagon type has unique features so it is important for firms to avoid falling into the trap of only doing a singleton. Quite what Alex was pointing to I don't know. He shouldn't have been posted my photos on here, but didn't appear to know how to link to them which is very easy using the squiggle above each photo. Paul First of all Paul, may I take this opportunity to apologise for any upset, that certainly was not my intention. I incorrectly posted the photos rather than the links, entirely my fault. Please accept my apologies. I have just amended the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melly Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 IWA Cargowaagon. . . . the curved roof variety. Has livery variations from the 80's through to today. . . . . https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/I/IWA-bogie-cargowaggons/i-wJ3H2t5/A M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Th IWA Cargowaagon. . . . the curved roof variety. Has livery variations from the 80's through to today. . . . . https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/I/IWA-bogie-cargowaggons/i-wJ3H2t5/A M Think Roco did a similiar version to this. Slightly small, but because of the larger loading gauge, they worked about right! Personally, I quite like RBE's idea of an "OO" gauge Perch set...... The Blue Bardon's are quite nice, but would personally suggest the original Bardon Hill JGA's the BHQ 171xx series in both the attractive Green/Yellow livery, and later White Version with the Bardon/Aggregate Industries branding variations. Also a decent area of operation - Midlands, London/South East, plus sure I saw some photos once of them working out of the Mendips. perhaps after Bardon took over Yeoman. Regards, Christopher. Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Th Think Roco did a similiar version to this. Slightly small, but because of the larger loading gauge, they worked about right! Personally, I quite like RBE's idea of an "OO" gauge Perch set...... The Blue Bardon's are quite nice, but would personally suggest the original Bardon Hill JGA's the BHQ 171xx series in both the attractive Green/Yellow livery, and later White Version with the Bardon/Aggregate Industries branding variations. Also a decent area of operation - Midlands, London/South East, plus sure I saw some photos once of them working out of the Mendips. perhaps after Bardon took over Yeoman. Regards, Christopher. Regards, C. They all worked from the West Country when new http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/bardonpha Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) The Blue Bardon's are quite nice, but would personally suggest the original Bardon Hill JGA's the BHQ 171xx series in both the attractive Green/Yellow livery, and later White Version with the Bardon/Aggregate Industries branding variations. Also a decent area of operation - Midlands, London/South East, plus sure I saw some photos once of them working out of the Mendips. perhaps after Bardon took over Yeoman. I'm pleased someone has mentioned these as I was actually going include these in my 'wants list' but figured they might be too niche. Certainly some attractive liveries, although quite a few differences between the first and second build series to look out for, although the bodies appear to be predominantly the same... https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-ex-PHA-BHQ-1st-series/i-TPDsdnD https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-BHQ-2nd-series/i-z4FswvX And then of course the later JGA AI version which is different again and I believe only twenty or so built? https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-AI/i-8cCsDHp Either way I'd sign up for a good rake of either (or all) of the above. Al Edited March 13, 2018 by YesTor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I rather like those JGAs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi Guys, I wouldn't mind a TTA chemical tank Like the ones used on the Amlwch traffic in North Wales. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm pleased someone has mentioned these as I was actually going include these in my 'wants list' but figured they might be too niche. Certainly some attractive liveries, although quite a few differences between the first and second build series to look out for, although the bodies appear to be predominantly the same... https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-ex-PHA-BHQ-1st-series/i-TPDsdnD https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-BHQ-2nd-series/i-z4FswvX And then of course the later JGA AI version which is different again and I believe only twenty or so built? https://wagons.smugmug.com/JGA-AI/i-8cCsDHp Either way I'd sign up for a good rake of either (or all) of the above. Al The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56! https://flic.kr/p/bB117G IWA Cargowaagon. . . . the curved roof variety. Has livery variations from the 80's through to today. . . . . https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/I/IWA-bogie-cargowaggons/i-wJ3H2t5/A M Thanks for the suggestion Melly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37403 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 What about the Runcorn salt wagons that ran on enterprise workings and up to Scotland at Dalry....I'd have a few of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The Blue Bardon's are quite nice, but would personally suggest the original Bardon Hill JGA's the BHQ 171xx series in both the attractive Green/Yellow livery, and later White Version with the Bardon/Aggregate Industries branding variations. Also a decent area of operation - Midlands, London/South East, plus sure I saw some photos once of them working out of the Mendips. perhaps after Bardon took over Yeoman. I'd have a rake too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrallwelder Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56 .... let’s make it happen , I doubt this wagon would manufactured by any of the big boys , it would keep in context & complement the Redland wagon ... late 80’s thru til now TW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56 .... let’s make it happen , I doubt this wagon would manufactured by any of the big boys , it would keep in context & complement the Redland wagon ... late 80’s thru til now TW Or a Construction class 60! 60099_7-1-1994 by Anthony Kay, on Flickr 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi Guys, I wouldn't mind a TTA chemical tank Like the ones used on the Amlwch traffic in North Wales. Cheers Peter. They are interesting tank wagons those Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 What about the Runcorn salt wagons that ran on enterprise workings and up to Scotland at Dalry....I'd have a few of them! 37403, are those the same ex-salt wagons that some of them were transferred to carry aggregates? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Or even a 59! They turned up for a spell in 2014. I think the hire of the HTAs saw them return back north Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesTor Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56! https://flic.kr/p/bB117G Or a Construction class 60! Absolutely! They usually look like this when I see them nowadays - as this viaduct runs across the bottom of my street - almost always behind a GBRf 66 and virtually impossible to tell the livery on many examples... [excuse the image quality...] Edited March 14, 2018 by YesTor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56 .... let’s make it happen , I doubt this wagon would manufactured by any of the big boys , it would keep in context & complement the Redland wagon ... late 80’s thru til now TW Yes, they do compliment the PGA well, and couple image most people who went for the PGA, would probably go for the Bardons as well, plus livery-wise the can use the same ones on the Bardons/Redland, and Lafarge/Bardon-Aggregate Industries White. Would not be good for my wallet tho! Likewise looking ahead to current condition, and opportunity to do additionally the so-called white ones weathered.... A while ago someone did have an RMweb page devoted to the Bardon JGA's.... Other thing - bit niche, but again something quite special - Tullis Russel PAA, as didnt they use the same underframe? Just thinking of an extra variation for the PGA chassis tooling..... Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 Or even a 59! IMG_1574-59005-59001-7A17.jpg They turned up for a spell in 2014. I think the hire of the HTAs saw them return back north Jo Thanks Jo. Nice photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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