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Hi A few bits of Detail that pertain to the individual Cavelex announced models The information is for a additional features that occurred during the lifespan of that particle livery variation only of the 12 prototypes From my information & a morning’s Flickr viewing ( there may well be other & date clarifications ) Regards TW 56008 # > BR Blue >> New to Withdrawal Note (1) ~ V type Ariel bracket applied July/August 1988 Note (2) ~ Round Buffers #1 end / Oval #2 end .. typically throughout 1984-1991 period Note (3) ~ cab door longer handrail modification ( late 1982 ) 56018 # > BR Blue > Railfreight > Trainload Coal > Transrail > EWS >> April 1989 to Withdrawal Note (1) ~ EWS GPS tracker ( I think that what it was ) #2 End above cab window 56019 # > BR Blue > Railfreight Redstripe >> April 1988 to Withdrawal Note (1) ~ Always had V type Ariel bracket in this livery .. March 1988 mod @ ZC 56023 # > BR Blue > Trainload Coal >> sept 1988 to Withdrawal Note (1) ~ V type Ariel bracket .. Sept 1988 Note (2) ~ Depot Plaques fitted 1990 Note (43) ~ BR Arrows fitted 1991 56046 # > BR Blue > Railfreight > Trainload Construction >> March 1989 - April 1993 > Dutch Note (1) ~ no Plaque/Arrows Note (2) ~ Westbury plaque added #1 end only 1990 Note (3) ~ Westbury Plaque removed 1991 56055 # > BR Blue > Railfreight > Trainload Construction > Loadhaul >> 1995 to Withdrawal Note (1) ~ Cantrail grille modification 1995/1996 Note (2) ~ EWS GPS tracker ( I think that what it was ) #2 End above cab window 56070 # > BR Blue >> New to November 1989 > Trainload Construction > Trainload Unbranded > Transrail Grey Note (1) ~ T type Ariel bracket applied Sept 1988 Note (2) ~ Never received orange cantrail stripe in this livery (?) 56074 # > BR Blue > Trainload Coal >> September 1988 to April/May 1994 > Loadhaul Note (1) ~ flashing light still fitted & red Nameplate - no arrows/plaque Note (2) ~ T type Ariel bracket applied by March 1989 Note (3) ~ plaque/ Arrows applied by July 1990 Note (4) ~ depot Plaques removed 1994 56077 # > BR Blue > Railfreight >> February 1986 - June 1990 > Trainload Coal > Loadhaul Note (1) ~ T type Ariel bracket applied by Late 1988/early 89 56093 # > Large Logo > Large Logo ( Tinsley Tart ) >> late 1985 - October 1989 > Trainload Coal > Transrail Grey Note (1) ~ painted as a full Tinsley Tart late 1985 with large front end numbers Note (2) ~ T type Ariel bracket applied by May 1989 56097 # > Large Logo > Trainload Coal > Trainload Metals >> April 1993 - withdrawal Note (1) ~ metals decals with arrows & coal sector plaque from April 1993 Note (2) ~ Arrows/Plaques removed by 1996 56120 # > Large Logo >> new to March 1992 > Trainload Coal Note (1) ~ small end numbers by 1984 Note (2) ~ orange cantrail stripe by 1987 Note (3) ~ T type Ariel bracket applied by October 1988

Indeed! .. it looks so good I’ve bought 002/005/015 & 022

Fran any news on a re-run of these wagons .. maybe in original Castle cement branding ? cheers TW

Fran although the new release is not for me . And to keep us 1980/1990s guys going .. Is there any news on re-runs on existing wagons .. maybe some more PFA ‘s or indeed the promised livery variation on PCA cements in original Castle cement Branding cheers TW

Any thoughts from Cavalex if they may produce this wagon ? All rakes seem to have at least 3 or 4 as part of the consist .. PG013G 14500 - 14522 Although a small batch / livery variations are Tilbury Roadstone > Red Redland > Green / grey stripe Redland > Green Redland > Faded Green blanked out LaFarge > white with titles LaFarge > white with titles blanked out LaFarge > white Additionally.. Also has anybody tried to convert a Cavalex PGA 012A into a Redland .. PGA 009B ? If so any pics please .. cheers TW

Thanks Fran this info gives me a little scope with the Caib branded ARC PTA’s to re badge to PTA TOPS codes for my 1989/1990 class 56 period. hopefully you are considering at some stage ARC/FY or indeed Tarmac PGA wagons for production ... I’m sure they would do well cheers TW

Hi would anybody have an idea on exactly when in 1990 the wagon designation change PTA > JTA/JUA occurred & if any PTA’s designation wagons made it through to 1991 before being re-badged JTA/JUA cheers TW

I see on your website the Cawood PFA’s are now sold out . can we expect a 3rd run of these , this time with different running numbers . 92777 .. please cheers TW

Hi All Needing an excuse to order some of these wagons . anybody have info on wether this variant of TEA was hauled by class 56 1990-2004 ? .. possibly on Power station/depot fuel traffic from Lindsey OR.. or indeed any regular-ish working cheers TW

72 Wagons in total No Panel = 22 ID’d Full Panel = 10 ID’d Top small Panel = 7 ID’d no ID yet = 33 Some of the no ID’d wagons had half top panel only , so maybe some mods note : most pics from 2009 additionally > Tapered side Panel = 11 (1noted so far with Full Panel) large Logo Redland > 6 is the most I’ve seen in a rake (40 wagons) Not a definitive overview .. but at least a start TW

When will you be updating your website , I require 2x protection Panel & 1 x no Panel Larger Logo Redland wagons cheers

Dear Cavalex Do you intend to have a second run of 4mm to mirror the livery variations that you offer on the 2mm model , secondly any thought to producing a 4 mm model with the protection panel already fitted & thirdly any mileage in producing the variant similar to this one with cut off side panels ( sorry don’t know the variant # ) to add a little variation to the rake !? Cheers TW Dear Cavalex Do you intend to have a second run of 4mm to mirror the livery variations that you offer on the 2mm model , secondly any thought to producing a 4 mm model with the protection panel already fitted & thirdly any mileage in producing the variant similar to this one with cut off side panels ( sorry don’t know the variant # ) to add a little variation to the rake !? Cheers TW

Hi Now found a pic of EWS 56041 from 5/2001 , a mix of Rugby & Castle cement examples .. a good enough excuse for me know !! Cheers 071

Thanks 071 These were castle cement wagons ?? TW

Hi All Would anybody have info on workings or photographs of Class 56 hauling these wagons in the period 1989-2004 . Would really like an excuse for buying these TW

Great news . My FAXN GRIDS are looking forward to these !! . How far along in the process are we with the BAA wagons ? Cheers TW

A little disappointed that the various niche & unlikely to be produced aggregate wagons have not been selected. However the BBA’s & TEA would be unit shifters I Would buy 10-12 BBA’s though !!! TW

The Bardon Hill JGAs would look good behind a Large Logo 56 .... let’s make it happen , I doubt this wagon would manufactured by any of the big boys , it would keep in context & complement the Redland wagon ... late 80’s thru til now TW

HAA ... good call , another high unit shifter ! TW

Hi Alex & Cav The reference to the Bardon PHA is the WH Davis Wagon circa 1986 , not the ex ECC wagon ... although that would be cool also . Certainly the PTA would be a popular selection & I personally would buy 30+ ARC/FY units & would consider a further purchase of South Wales Iron ore examples A couple more personal selections would be > VTG 3 door Ferry vans > Cargowaggon Holdall Wagons ( Norsk Hydro ) > also 2nd the suggestion of the CSA presflo’s Looking forward to any potential vote Furthermore with the painted versions due to arrive from China .... how long do you envisage deliveries to the customer of the accepted Production models ? Thanx TW

Hi For me PGA > ARC/Yeoman any variant .. would sell a shed load !! PTA > ARC/Yeoman PFA > Cawoods/British Fuels And for a left field selection PHA/JGA > Bardon Aggregates TW

Fantastico !! What are the modifications please ?

Would any kind soul have a pic of these wagons behind a class 56 1988 onwards ... or indeed any knowledge to wether they were ever in use together . Thanks

Hi How is the interest looking as regards pre ordering so far ?