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4 minutes ago, Sir TophamHatt said:

Is there a list of variations of livery, or are just the three being produced?

 

Not sure if I should buy one now or wait until some sort of price drop/sale.

Given that these are already priced significantly lower than most locos from Oxford's competitors. we probably won't see much discounting until further variations are in the offing and they want to clear the decks of anything that remains from the initial releases. 

 

By then, your choice might well be limited to whichever proves to be the least popular of the first three.

 

I have my own guess as to how that will turn out, but that's a can of worms I have no intention of opening on here.:jester:

 

John 

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3 hours ago, Sir TophamHatt said:

...Not sure if I should buy one now or wait until some sort of price drop/sale.

You should only buy one every week, until stocks run out or your account hits the 'Empty' mark. (Posted on behalf of the Support The Dry Side campaign.)

 

4 hours ago, Sir TophamHatt said:

Is there a list of variations of livery, or are just the three being produced?...

Oxford Rail can release what has been shown so far in further livery choices, and are likely able to offer more class variants too. What's going to encourage them to do so? Strong sales of the first three releases, see above.

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"Jazzer What a great piece of film. Once again though , the N7’ s in the film seem to have a bigger steam dome tha the Oxford model . It’s does look like Oxford have got that bit wrong."

 

The dome is completely wrong, as I said above, its missing the top feeds.

Paul

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28 minutes ago, Bucoops said:

Silver Jubilee? Where?!

 

 

Sorry Chief, that's not my remit, I only do fiscal solutions.

 

I have told that dozy bird off the payday loan advert that perhaps if their boiler is on the blink "again" that being a two wage income/two car nuclear family they might want to restructure their finances. As opposed to flinging stupid interest rate cash around. And maybe get a decent CORGI registered boiler engineer installation in the first place.

 

Just saying, C6T.

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I spoke to Oxford this morning on the phone briefly to ask about the sound versions. The sounds are currently being stitched together from recordings of the real thing, and they're expecting the files imminently - so they won't be generic sounds which I'm pleased about. The LNER versions (I'm assuming DC) are on the way and due very soon, with BR ones likely to follow in May or thereabouts. 

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A related aside, I'm sure OR have the situation in hand...

 

Whilst a specifically sound fitted N7 (or anything else) is of no interest to myself, would N2 sound files cut the mustard? I'll readily admit I know nothing of the intricacies of steam locomotive's differences wrt sounds produced mind you so be gentle.

(But I could probably bore you to sleep with why a Cl.40 doesn't sound like a Cl.56, despite sharing a nominally similar prime mover.)

 

C6T. 

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Likely to be very different. I know there are recordings of at least the preserved N7, even though it hasn't run in many years, but there are also recordings of N7(s) on those records that were made years ago.

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Appreciated, but as an audio enthusiast myself, I'm specifically wondering about degradation in sound quality if lifted from third party media (video/YouTube etc). Not to mention royalties payable to same if applicable.

As such if the only N7 in existence is currently out of ticket, but you had the option to festoon the N2 with microphones, does Gresley's 0-6-2 sound enough like an N7 to utilise that locos "chat".

 

Honest question, as I say I'm blissfully ignorant on prototype (steam) loco noise differences and whether it matters deeply to the end model consumer. 

 

C6T. 

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7 minutes ago, Classsix T said:

As such if the only N7 in existence is currently out of ticket, but you had the option to festoon the N2 with microphones, does Gresley's 0-6-2 sound enough like an N7 to utilise that locos "chat".

The N2 was withdrawn late last year so unless recordings have already been made it could be a while before someone can stick microphones all over it.

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4 hours ago, Bucoops said:

Likely to be very different. I know there are recordings of at least the preserved N7, even though it hasn't run in many years, but there are also recordings of N7(s) on those records that were made years ago.

 

I think the ticket ran out in 2016, somebody miss read the date and we got another few months running on the CVR. When I met the Oxford guy later at a retailer openday it was fairly clear they had not, at that point, seen the N7 so they are unlikely to have got a specific recording. While the chuff is likely to be similar to other inside two cylinder locos they are unlikely to have a recording of the air brakes (and not just the sound of the wesinghouse brake).

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21 hours ago, Classsix T said:

...I'm blissfully ignorant on prototype (steam) loco noise differences and whether it matters deeply to the end model consumer... 

Just as in all audio reproduction, the whole range from 'matters deeply' to a generic 'puff-puff- toot' is enough. Even leaving out the chatter of the Westinghouse pump, N7 and N2 were recognisably different, and I think I would still be able to tell them apart nearing sixty years since I last heard them working side by side.

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Make your own mind up, they are doubleheading together here..

 

The N2 and N7 only have a letter of the alphabet, post 1923 operator and same 0-6-2T wheel arrangement in common.

 

They were designed by different builders N7 - Hill vs N2 - Gresley,  for different railway companies GNR vs GER, though ostensibly competitors on London’s suburban routes.

 

 

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14 hours ago, adb968008 said:

Make your own mind up, they are doubleheading together here..

 

The N2 and N7 only have a letter of the alphabet, post 1923 operator and same 0-6-2T wheel arrangement in common.

 

They were designed by different builders N7 - Hill vs N2 - Gresley,  for different railway companies GNR vs GER, though ostensibly competitors on London’s suburban routes.

 

 

Awesome videos, Chas 'n' Dave and The Style Council together at last!

That N2 is a beast!

 

C6T. 

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