brian777999 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 When I build a plastic wagon kit I trap the wheels between the solebars then allow the glue to dry for 24 hours. I can then gently pop the wheels out by spreading the axle boxes when it is time to paint the completed kit. Can you do the same thing with a brass wagon ? I would not think you would be able to spread the axle boxes at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted October 23, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2009 When I build a plastic wagon kit I trap the wheels between the solebars then allow the glue to dry for 24 hours. I can then gently pop the wheels out by spreading the axle boxes when it is time to paint the completed kit. Can you do the same thing with a brass wagon ? I would not think you would be able to spread the axle boxes at all. Hi I can only comment on the 2mm kits I have built but yes I can get the wheels in and out once its built. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Hi I can only comment on the 2mm kits I have built but yes I can get the wheels in and out once its built. Cheers Paul If etched brass W-irons are used, I can't see why not - they should flex better than plastic , surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport_rod Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 It shouldn't be a problem, in fact it's generally easier than with plastic - unless there are brake pull-rods in the way of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Sorry, I should have specified that I am referring to OO gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 You can certainly flex brass w-irons, whether you have clasp brakes or safety loops in the way though is another matter.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 24, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2009 Shouldn't be a problem at all with brass, don't do it too often as this will weaken the metal. once wheels are in whitemetal wagons they should be left alone or disaster could will ensue! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 What do most people do when they paint brass wagons ? 1. remove wheels for painting or 2.paint with wheels in place but mask off the wheels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 25, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 25, 2009 I always remove wheels wherever possible and paint them separately if necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2mm Dabbler Posted October 26, 2009 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 26, 2009 I always remove wheels wherever possible and paint them separately if necessary. Agreed. A good tip from Jim Watt of the 2mm Association is, if spray painting, to place small blobs of vaseline in the top-hat bearing recesses before firing up the airbrush. Remove the excess afterwards and any remainder makes an acceptable lubricant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted October 26, 2009 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 26, 2009 A lot depends on the design of the kit. Something with the Bill Bedford style of W iron (and no break bits in the way) is quite easy to pull apart the wirons so that you can pop out the wheels for painting. Wagons with said break bits, or bogie stock its common that you cant get them out. When painting stuff I've built, I try to remove the wheels if possible (masking the insides of the Wiron to stop paint build up over springs and bearings) or if its not possible I mask the wheels prior to painting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian777999 Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 What about O gauge ? Can you pop the wheels out on the larger scales ? I have built plastic O gauge wagons in the past but I always painted the wheels in situ. If I go back to O gauge I would like to remove the wheels for painting but I am not sure if there would be enough movement in the W irons to get the wheels out (plastic or brass). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 What about O gauge ? Can you pop the wheels out on the larger scales ? I have built plastic O gauge wagons in the past but I always painted the wheels in situ. If I go back to O gauge I would like to remove the wheels for painting but I am not sure if there would be enough movement in the W irons to get the wheels out (plastic or brass). I have never had a problem removing the wheels when its 7mm as long as the push rods/ clasps/ etc are not in the way. Although I would say in colder weather it might pay to just heat up the W irons if they are plastic as they could be a bit more brittle due to the cold. Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenser Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I tend to paint wheels in situ - just put the brush in the recess in the wheel face and rotate the wheel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 I mask the wheel edges. Easy to paint the wheel centres in situ if needed afterwards . Leave wheels in situ whenever possible saves risking bending breaking etc etc as already mentioned Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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