RedGemAlchemist Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Edwardian said: Well, inspired by the efforts of you all, I've finally decided to join the august ranks of Nellie-bashers. It had long struck me that Nellie might look good as a compact 2-4-0 passenger tank - as a passenger tank, recalling her LSWR C14 heritage - and I acquired a beaten up Nellie body from the Bay of Fleas (I still have my childhood Nellie, cherished and safe, and she's not going under the knife!!). The intention is to upgrade a Nellie but keep as much of the character and appearance of the original body as possible. One thing I dislike about the Triang body is the cab front sheet, which would really look better with round spectacles. Other than that, it is really only necessary to replace the moulded-on hand rails and smokebox dart and to add the usual refinements, e.g. screw link couplings and vac pipes (it's to be a passenger loco in this guise), lamp irons, crew etc. However, this was a beaten-up body that had lost its rear steps and chimney, so here there will have to be further changes. The Dean chimney pictured is temporary, while I mull. Given the need to replace the rear steps, I thought I might as well go to town and have nice, big curvy ones. The other change is necessitated by the change in wheel arrangement. I have cut out the cab doors and provided splashers for the rear driving wheels, rather like a Brighton Terrier or D tank. Here we see it in primer to identify the sanding and filling necessary, so, early days, but the chassis runs and the body fits it, so, the job's a good 'un. Very nice. I've been very tempted to do something similar to my No.1. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted January 6, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2020 Nice, what chassis have you used? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbyhorse Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 My Pug is coming along nicely, not long to it's completed. Simon 9 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, hobbyhorse said: My Pug is coming along nicely, not long to it's completed. Simon Hmm, cute. I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted January 6, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Nile said: Nice, what chassis have you used? I'd guess it's a Bachmann NotThomas? The rods are in 2 parts so you can easily convert to a 4-coupled (is it 4 coupled or 2 coupled?) loco. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Nile said: Nice, what chassis have you used? 16 hours ago, Corbs said: I'd guess it's a Bachmann NotThomas? The rods are in 2 parts so you can easily convert to a 4-coupled (is it 4 coupled or 2 coupled?) loco. Yes, it's a Bachmann Junior 0-6-0. As the centre axle is driven and the rods are in two parts, you could add a front splasher and do an 0-4-2 version just as easily! I thinned the inside of the keeper plate until the leading wheel was low enough to sit on the rails, packed the axle groove in the chassis block above it, including some springy material, and added lead to the inside of the smokebox. I simply bent the front wiper pickups to be in contact with the smaller wheels, so there are still pickups from all six wheels. Crude, but effective. It now runs very well as a 2-4-0, as well as it did as an 0-6-0, which is really well given the silky smooth Bachmann mechanism. It was a test in part because I have a pukka 2-4-0 conversion planned for Castle Aching using this chassis. 3 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 If the center is driven, why not a 2-2-2? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesperus Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 You would need different wheels unless you added outside cylinders but a better prospect than using a Triang Jinty chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 16 hours ago, AlfaZagato said: If the center is driven, why not a 2-2-2? Well, now you've got me thinking... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Actually, for you more experienced butchers, which of the chassis would be an OK start for a Crampton? Or am I speaking crazy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Annie Posted January 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2020 I don't much fancy your chances. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Yes. If I was going there, I wouldn't start from here 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, AlfaZagato said: Actually, for you more experienced butchers, which of the chassis would be an OK start for a Crampton? Or am I speaking crazy? I tried one, but what finally beat me was that outside Stephenson valve gear with two eccentrics, which I thought was awfully fiddly, and I gave up. Before you get there, you need to recognise that the chassis is very lowslung, and I used a brass strip running centrally along the length placed flat, rather than the conventional side frames. The two leading axles were on a bogie, and the driver axle on extensions at the back with gears and motor. I followed an old RM article by Mike Sharman, king of such goings on, and articulated the four wheel tender on to the rear of the main frame, with the leading tender axle floating, and plenty of weight in the tender body and the boiler. Doing it like this it ran well, with a satisfactory pull. But then as I say, you can get bogged down in the motion detail. Otherwise, if you save up, you can buy a HO kit from a French firm. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted January 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2020 The key problem in using not-Thomas for early locomotives is the height of the mechanism. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Not perfect by any means, but it's my first (and probably not last) effort 10 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 @Northroader I knew of the French kit, firm is Est Modele. I don't fancy spending that much on a kit, though I've heard it's good. Also, we're drifting. @Sophia NSE That is a quaint little thing. Do you plan on adding some sheet to hide the gap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted January 8, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2020 Me?? Drifting!?!?! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said: @Northroader I knew of the French kit, firm is Est Modele. I don't fancy spending that much on a kit, though I've heard it's good. Also, we're drifting. @Sophia NSE That is a quaint little thing. Do you plan on adding some sheet to hide the gap? I am indeed and the boiler piece I cut out is just the right size to cover that part too. It needs jacking up too as the body is slightly too low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Next to a future bash victim. I don't hate the LNER, honest, but they were nice and cheap to pick up! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Sophia NSE said: Not perfect by any means, but it's my first (and probably not last) effort 1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said: Next to a future bash victim. I don't hate the LNER, honest, but they were nice and cheap to pick up! Very cute little 0-4-0T, though may I suggest replacing the cylinders and motion on it to make it a bit more detailed. I am very much a fan. And there is no issue here with modifying LNER locomotives. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Very cute little 0-4-0T, though may I suggest replacing the cylinders and motion on it to make it a bit more detailed. I am very much a fan. And there is no issue here with modifying LNER locomotives. Any recommendations as it's partly your fault I'm in this bodging mess to begin with! I think next time I won't shorten the body quite as much so the chassis fits better and maybe go inside cylinder to make a 2-4-0... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Annie said: I don't much fancy your chances. That’s a bit of a half-arsed one! Hornby’s next steampunk mod of their pug... Edited January 8, 2020 by Talltim 4 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sophia NSE said: Any recommendations as it's partly your fault I'm in this bodging mess to begin with! I think next time I won't shorten the body quite as much so the chassis fits better and maybe go inside cylinder to make a 2-4-0... Hmm. Actually, I'd keep the connecting rod for the driving wheels. Replace the piston rod and cylinder with maybe a Triang Duchess or something of similar ilk. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 21 minutes ago, Talltim said: That’s a bit of a half-arsed one! Hornby’s next steampunk mod of their pug... Nah, Bachman. Strapping Thomas to the front of Emily. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, AlfaZagato said: Nah, Bachman. Strapping Thomas to the front of Emily. Won't somebody think of the children? *Clutches pearls* 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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