TomScrut Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marcoblanco said: For 100 quid plus model in 2020" all lights shouldve been done. I think the only lights missing are the red headcode lights I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 hours ago, TomScrut said: I think the only lights missing are the red headcode lights I think? By modern standards cab lights are missing also. As I have said before, mine get changed to 21pin with all lights needed with independent control. Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: By modern standards cab lights are missing also. As I have said before, mine get changed to 21pin with all lights needed with independent control. Roy Yeah I think once I get chance I will convert mine to LED and do a bit more. Bugs me that they insist of shoving out 8 pin stuff still with no independent lighting control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 New decoder bought, still No lights.. Something I'm missing or the loco is faulty I presume.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Marcoblanco said: New decoder bought, still No lights.. Something I'm missing or the loco is faulty I presume.. Can you post a photo of the circuit board and decoder? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) Thanks for trying to help Roy.. Well may help others but I was resigned to the fact of having to take back on Monday. Anyway lesson learned, keep persisting and thinking, you may find a solution. I tried fiddling with blink settings and brightness settings on the 36-566, no joy. Changed chip around, no joy. Checked bulbs. Suddenly one end worked when I put plug back in terminal. Bingo. But other end still no joy. Checked other terminals, Bingo - it had been inserted in the wrong terminal. All working!! Hallelujah!! I'm presuming the spare terminals can be used for a red tail light, perhaps..? Edited July 17, 2020 by Marcoblanco 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted July 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2020 Yes, the ones marked R on the PCB can take the red lights. Used to be able to buy the bulbs from Howes as a spare but I don't see them listed since Gaugemaster took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Did 33s have red tails fitted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Marcoblanco said: Did 33s have red tails fitted? Only the headcode blinds. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 OK thanks.. I think I will see if I can carry on the Heljan tradition and use some red bulbs for the rear blind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted July 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Marcoblanco said: For 100 quid plus model in 2020" all lights shouldve been done. your 20 years too late.. Clan Line was nearly £100 back in year 2000, it doesn’t have lights then, still doesn’t now. last year people paid over £120 for a 5 wheeled coach, with a distinctly un-european paint job, one of those wheels was just a moulded lump. Heljans models are quite reasonable. Edited July 17, 2020 by adb968008 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 For modern stock lights are a must but honestly, for anything 1980s or before I find it frankly ridiculous that they turn up lighting up like christmas trees. Apart from the high intensity headlights that a few locos had from the mid 70s the lights were barely visible except at night. As for cab lights, their use in general running is so minimal as to be little more than a gimmick. And don't get me started on pairs of bright LED tail lights on diesels that had only one fairly dim tail lamp lit at a time, and only if running light. I'm quite content with the Heljan approach in general.... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, andyman7 said: For modern stock lights are a must but honestly, for anything 1980s or before I find it frankly ridiculous that they turn up lighting up like christmas trees. Apart from the high intensity headlights that a few locos had from the mid 70s the lights were barely visible except at night. As for cab lights, their use in general running is so minimal as to be little more than a gimmick. And don't get me started on pairs of bright LED tail lights on diesels that had only one fairly dim tail lamp lit at a time, and only if running light. I'm quite content with the Heljan approach in general.... And for those of us who have yard based layouts where cab lights are very commonly used? This hobby has many different types of layout. For me, the cablights are not a gimmick thank you Edit: neither are working tail liights, yard mode etc. Roy Edited July 18, 2020 by Roy Langridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: For me, the cablights are not a gimmick thank you But I think it's important that they are switchable, ideally at each end. Annoys me about my Hornby HSTs that they have cab lights on when driving 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, TomScrut said: But I think it's important that they are switchable, ideally at each end. Annoys me about my Hornby HSTs that they have cab lights on when driving Oh yes, everything should be independently switched. That is my one annoyance with the lighting on my sound Hattons 66. Why was there no yard mode when it is only a decoder setting change? Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: Oh yes, everything should be independently switched. That is my one annoyance with the lighting on my sound Hattons 66. Why was there no yard mode when it is only a decoder setting change? Roy I don't have sound on my 66 so I programmed the LokPilot 5 myself to do what I want it to. I have it so that markers/tail are on one function (which is yard mode I think?), Then day and night on their own buttons too. Edited July 18, 2020 by TomScrut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TomScrut said: I don't have sound on my 66 so I programmed the LokPilot 5 myself to do what I want it to. I have it so that markers/tail are on one function (which is yard mode I think?), Then day and night on their own buttons too. Yard mode front/rear lights and no headlight, so it sounds like you have done that. You also need parking mode with red both ends for a depot. Roy Edited July 18, 2020 by Roy Langridge 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Roy Langridge said: You also need parking mode with red both ends for a depot Can't recall if I have done that or not. I don't have a depot as such so I don't worry about that. I have done that on passenger units for parking in bay platforms though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 hours ago, TomScrut said: But I think it's important that they are switchable, ideally at each end. Annoys me about my Hornby HSTs that they have cab lights on when driving Yes that's daft. It is better not to have cab lights if they are not switchable! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) Just some advice on the accessories pack of bits, what applies to 33012: do all bits fit to the model or are they dependent on loco.. I can't seem to find pics of 012.. Were snow ploughs fitted, for example. Edited July 19, 2020 by Marcoblanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted July 19, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 19, 2020 http://www.class33crompton.co.uk/Crompton33012.htm Any use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcoblanco Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Yes, thanks.. Interesting pic at Salisbury in 82 with no radio pods.. When were these fitted u wonder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Half-full Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Marcoblanco said: Yes, thanks.. Interesting pic at Salisbury in 82 with no radio pods.. When were these fitted u wonder Radio roof pods were fitted from the late 80's (maybe early 90's) onward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 Is it just me or was the lastest run of these very small? Took a random notion to see about getting D6515 only to find its completely sold out already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted July 30, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kaput said: Is it just me or was the lastest run of these very small? Took a random notion to see about getting D6515 only to find its completely sold out already. Many of the recent 33 releases have sold out quickly, not just this run. Roy Edited July 30, 2020 by Roy Langridge Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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