Zomboid Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I'd have expected them to run the Harwich branch too, guess those will be bombardier units? Braintree, Walton & Southminster too, if those are just branch trains to/from Witham/ Thorpe/ Wickford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) The 12 car AC only version will obviously be using Ipswich Tunnel pretty intensively on the Lpl St to Norwich services. Does the restriction apply to all Flirts or just those with a diesel power wagon? Aren’t there also plans to run the bi-mode Flirts on new through services to London, eg Kings Lynn? Edited January 13, 2019 by black and decker boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) I'd have expected them to run the Harwich branch too, guess those will be bombardier units? Braintree, Walton & Southminster too, if those are just branch trains to/from Witham/ Thorpe/ Wickford. Bombardier units for Harwich, clacton and Braintree,southminster and Southend Vic. flirts for livst-nor and stanstead express (12car emu) sudbury, esk, Cambridge, Peterborough, harwich (cambridge-harwich boat train), Yarmouth and lowestoft for the 3/4car demu units. Edited January 13, 2019 by Siggie in the east Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 Currently there is the odd working of DMUs to parkeston well at least one on an evening that I seem to get stuck behind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) The 12 car AC only version will obviously be using Ipswich Tunnel pretty intensively on the Lpl St to Norwich services. Does the restriction apply to all Flirts or just those with a diesel power wagon? Aren’t there also plans to run the bi-mode Flirts on new through services to London, eg Kings Lynn? I believe it will be the Bombardier units to Lynn as well.At the moment all flirts are banned from running on the down main through ipswich tunnel, as well as movements over certain points. The bi modes will be running a new service from norwich to stanstead though. Edited January 13, 2019 by Siggie in the east Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Currently there is the odd working of DMUs to parkeston well at least one on an evening that I seem to get stuck behind Oh yes, good point!! The "boat train". Been off a week and I'm forgetting everything already!! 2A04 lowestoft to Harwich in the morning, 2W06 Harwich to Cambridge as its return working and then the evening service, which more often than not recently has been cancelled at ipswich due to unit shortages, the return working of 2w20 starting at ipswich. We do try to run it in the right place but it comes to us late from Cambridge! Sorry! Currently there is the odd working of DMUs to parkeston well at least one on an evening that I seem to get stuck behind Oh yes, good point!! The "boat train". Been off a week and I'm forgetting everything already!! 2A04 lowestoft to Harwich in the morning, 2W06 Harwich to Cambridge as its return working and then the evening service, which more often than not recently has been cancelled at ipswich due to unit shortages, the return working of 2w20 starting at ipswich. We do try to run it in the right place but it comes to us late from Cambridge! Sorry! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 Who the hell ordered these knowing they won't go over existing track... Still the longer it takes the moe rest days I get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 Didn't realise Ipswich men went to Harwich, I knew they did parkeston Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Didn't realise Ipswich men went to Harwich, I knew they did parkeston When I've been working ipswich panel, the station supervisor usually tells us when it gets cancelled and the reason is either unit shortages or driver shortages so I guess there's only a handful of guys who sign the route with the curve rather than into the platform and back out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 I wonder when we'll get these hideous things coming over here to gauge then? I don't think there'll be too many issues, but I wonder what the RA of them is.... Presumably they can't couple to 387's either.... Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 Don't be daft Andy, trains that couple to each other ,why would you want that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 When I've been working ipswich panel, the station supervisor usually tells us when it gets cancelled and the reason is either unit shortages or driver shortages so I guess there's only a handful of guys who sign the route with the curve rather than into the platform and back out. Things like I don't sign the curve winds me up... You sign the roads either side of it , you can see the only signal.... Watch the pan doesn't boil over with the boil in the bag driver! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I wonder when we'll get these hideous things coming over here to gauge then? I don't think there'll be too many issues, but I wonder what the RA of them is.... Presumably they can't couple to 387's either.... Andy G I believe they are replacing the 387's as well, GA are replacing everything so at the end of it, only 745/755 flirts and the Bombardier units should remain, although a few 156/153s may have to remain for a while to do the Sheringham service due to the bi mode flirts being too heavy for the section from cromer to sheringham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 Will they couple to GTN 387's then (the same train effectively as the 379)? I'm half hoping that they are too heavy for the Fens too... Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 I believe they are replacing the 387's as well, GA are replacing everything so at the end of it, only 745/755 flirts and the Bombardier units should remain, although a few 156/153s may have to remain for a while to do the Sheringham service due to the bi mode flirts being too heavy for the section from cromer to sheringham. What's happening to the 360's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) I believe they are replacing the 387's as well, GA are replacing everything so at the end of it, only 745/755 flirts and the Bombardier units should remain, although a few 156/153s may have to remain for a while to do the Sheringham service due to the bi mode flirts being too heavy for the section from cromer to sheringham. As far as I'm aware the weight restrictions are on the bridges over Roughton road and Hall road Edited January 13, 2019 by russ p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2019 What's happening to the 360's? Being returned their owners - who will need to find new customers, find secure storage or send them for scrap as necessary. The joys of having the DfT focused on ‘total fleet replacement for new franchises..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 What's happening to the 360's?Off lease and available to a new TOC, same as the 379s. The 321s have hydrogen conversion now announced. 315 & 317 expected to go straight to scrap 90s & MK3s May go to semi- retirement on charter / rail tours or locos to a FOC. Any surplus likely to go to scrap sooner rather than later. Most 153/156/170 off lease except a few as cover for Flirts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I've read the 170s are coming to Wales for the Central Wales line. Won't need much of a repaint if that is the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37409 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Hmm, you are continuing to post nonsense. 1. ROG spot hired a DB Cargo UK 66 for the delivery move. 2. GA are not driving the FLIRTS, nothing to do with GA currently. As I have said before, it is a ROSCO and Stadler acceptance/commissioning period with partner ROG. Once the units are approved, there shall be a period before they are accepted by GA - at that point GA drivers can start training. You are missing the fact that the ROSCO, Rock Rail has ordered/purchased these units. Thus any 'discussion' so claimed, would be between them and their partners. Ie. The manufacture - Stadler and the delivery agents - RailAdventure and ROG. ROG are not involved in the delivery of the units, that's DB Cargo's job. ROG are doing all the testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggie in the east Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Off lease and available to a new TOC, same as the 379s. The 321s have hydrogen conversion now announced. 315 & 317 expected to go straight to scrap 90s & MK3s May go to semi- retirement on charter / rail tours or locos to a FOC. Any surplus likely to go to scrap sooner rather than later. Most 153/156/170 off lease except a few as cover for Flirts. 90001 is going to York Museum to be kept as a museum piece, the rest will be going to Freightliner apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 90001 is going to York Museum to be kept as a museum piece, the rest will be going to Freightliner apparently.LSL have announced a deal with porterbrook for two of the GA class 90s and MK3 rakes for charters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 What's happening to the 360's? Off lease and available for redeployment possibly involving conversion for DC operation on South Eastern (I don't know this as fact, it is inferred from various circumstances). 90001 is going to York Museum to be kept as a museum piece, the rest will be going to Freightliner apparently. 90001 may go for use with Freightliner first, and join the national collection later, at the end of its working life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted January 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2019 No overseas interest in the 90's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted January 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2019 I heard over the weekend that the GA 379’s are going to be “tweaked” to turn them into 110mph 387’s and then the fleet divided between Great Northern so they can release the rest of the 365’s to the ROSCO and Great Western to bolster their fleet now that they’ve taken on HEx. Sounds quite plausible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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