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Albion Yard has a couple of photos of the forthcoming Peco Parkside 13t hopper wagon, on Peco's stand at Warley this last weekend, here

https://albionyard.wordpress.com

 

For those looking in future days, they are under the heading 'More thoughts from Warley 2018' dated 27 November 2018.

 

Did anyone else get photos of the 13t hopper wagon? I hope the hopper component is a one piece mould, so there is no need for awkward joining of several pieces together - did anyone ask about this at Warley?

 

John Storey

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Looks good, I would like about six of these for starters! The ARP 'box looks good too.

Cheers from Oz,

Peter C.

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Remember quizzing Richard Hollingsworth about this before PD was sold to Peco, and that I believe was the intention of making it a one piece moulding

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A possible upgrade for Parkside kits would be to make them NEM coupling ready. A logical place would be to start with a new kit.

 

In this instance forget about trying to mould a tension lock coupling in plastic (as shown in the picture linked to), include an NEM mount as an integral but optional part in the kit and include in the bag a couple of Bachmann tension lock couplings. Or I suppose they could make their own couplings as a “standard” spare part to add to their range and include in their kits.

 

I would think that providing standard couplings would be a good selling point for a kit, as it would increase the likelihood that the finished model would run in a train of RTR vehicles.

 

Much in the way that I would think that the one piece underframe and bogie mouldings that Cambrian supply in some of their kits probably removes the angst of providing a square and free running underframe. And at the same time is quicker to complete. And removes the need for at least three hands to get a Parkside underframe together!

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A possible upgrade for Parkside kits would be to make them NEM coupling ready. A logical place would be to start with a new kit.

 

In this instance forget about trying to mould a tension lock coupling in plastic (as shown in the picture linked to), include an NEM mount as an integral but optional part in the kit and include in the bag a couple of Bachmann tension lock couplings. Or I suppose they could make their own couplings as a “standard” spare part to add to their range and include in their kits.

 

I would think that providing standard couplings would be a good selling point for a kit, as it would increase the likelihood that the finished model would run in a train of RTR vehicles.

 

Much in the way that I would think that the one piece underframe and bogie mouldings that Cambrian supply in some of their kits probably removes the angst of providing a square and free running underframe. And at the same time is quicker to complete. And removes the need for at least three hands to get a Parkside underframe together!

 

They already make NEM mounts for them. Have done for quite a few years.

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/315603/Parkside_Models_PA34_NEM_Coupling_mounting_points_to_allow_NEM_couplings_to_be_fitted_to_non_NEM_rol/StockDetail.aspx

 

 

No to having them provided in the kits as to many of us they are a waste of money as we don't use them.

 

Jason

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The 13t hopper looks good. I noticed in the December Railway Modeller (p1067) mention that going forward that Parkside kits will come with Modelmasters waterslide transfers at no extra cost, which seems a good idea - the sample shown has 4 running numbers and alternative lettering supplied.

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Excellent, that's another piece of scratchbuilt Shiite I can consign to the bin , along with the coke hoppers ,PCV's ,etc We really are having it good atm !

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Glad to see that it is progressing. I recently acquired a fair scratchbuilt example on ebay, but I'll be getting a Parkside one too. 

 

Paul A. 

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...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit!  I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them....

 

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What scale is this about? I've missed such an explanation. I am expecting 7mm

 

Paul

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What scale is this about? I've missed such an explanation. I am expecting 7mm

 

Paul

The version shown at Warley, and the only one I’m aware of, is 4mm scale.

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The version shown at Warley, and the only one I’m aware of, is 4mm scale.

Shame, I understood the 7mm version was in advance of the 4mm when Parkside relinquished it, and have had complex discussion with the Peco designer about the internal door appearance. Not an easy puzzle, but we managed to solve it. Historical railway modelling is difficult for these firms. 

 

Paul

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Re the potential 7mm version, I’m unaware of one, that doesn’t mean there isn’t one in development!

Brgds

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Crack on then!  Some Conflat L's would be nice, either as a kit or RTR.  Obviously already the Mousa Models kit: http://mousa.biz/fourmm/wagons/br_wagons4.html

...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit!  I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them....

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...just my luck after 10 years of putting a rake of these together along comes a kit!  I'm about to start on a batch of Conflat Ls with the containers...just in case any manufacturer out there has any plans for making them....

 

You can tell the wee bairns at home. She's been showing you how to use the camera facility on her phone. Don't deny it.

 

Good to see Peco isnt wasting all the research material originally supplied to Parkside...

 

PS

I guess your pic must have been taken just before the branch closed. That would be just after they had demolished the coal merchants cabin and set fire to the good shed?

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There is an update about this in the current Railway Modeller. Design work is complete on both 4 and 7 mm kits. A 3d print of the 4mm version is shown. This is interesting as it implies the use of CAD in the design process, probably a first for a Parkside kit.

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What traffic were these wagons used for, and where?

 

They have been used for almost anything and could turn up almost anywhere!

 

Coal, Iron Ore, Stone and Serpentine have all been carried.

 

Does anyone know what Serpentine was used for as I understand it is named after its appearance of serpent/lizard skin.

 

Mark Saunders

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Does anyone know what Serpentine was used for as I understand it is named after its appearance of serpent/lizard skin.

 

 

Used decoratively, architecturally (like marble) and in jewelry. Also sometimes used in manufacture of asbestos type materials. Bedrock of the South Lizard peninsular, where it is usually found with copper ores and steatite  (soaprock).  Mullion Harbour walls (where Serp was shipped from) was partially built and repaired from Serpentine. From our point of view occasionally shipped by rail from Helston.

 

P

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Hi All,

 

The Dave Bradwell kit instructions for this wagon mention that some examples had "Iron Ore" painted on their side in a small black square. 

 

Does anyone have a photo of a 13Ton hopper with such a label? While I've seen them in mixed-hopper rakes on iron ore flows, I have never seen this type specifically labelled as such.

 

Any notes, photos etc by PM or otherwise would be useful. Thank you

 

Paul A. 

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Does anyone have a photo of a 13Ton hopper with such a label? While I've seen them in mixed-hopper rakes on iron ore flows, I have never seen this type specifically labelled as such.

 

 

There's a few been published in the specialist illustrated wagon books down the years.

 

There's this one on the coal drops at Glaisdale. (Linked from the RCTS archive).

 

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What traffic were these wagons used for, and where?

but simply to justify the joy of building the kit ........................... mine will be on its way for scrap somewhere on the South Coast near Soton along with HUO's, MEO's, MDO's, Coke hoppers, Pig Iron opens, Ingot Moulds (ex MSO's) and pretty much any other interesting unfitted BR wagon model I fancy in a special "One movement only" consist over the (by now 1976) fully fitted SR ........................................ also an excuse for running 2 Diesel Brake Tenders.

 

Porcy Mane, on 25 Dec 2018 - 15:46, said:

Used decoratively, architecturally (like marble) and in jewelry. Also sometimes used in manufacture of asbestos type materials. Bedrock of the South Lizard peninsular, where it is usually found with copper ores and steatite  (soaprock).  Mullion Harbour walls (where Serp was shipped from) was partially built and repaired from Serpentine. From our point of view occasionally shipped by rail from Helston.

P

 

Ahhh - that explains those in the background of pictures at Liskeard (??) which I had identified and dismissed as impossible cos "I thought they only worked in the Midlands & NE"

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Ahhh - that explains those in the background of pictures at Liskeard (??) which I had identified and dismissed as impossible cos "I thought they only worked in the Midlands & NE"

Glad to see I wasn't the only person to see them at Liskeard.; in my case, in the summer of 1975.

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There's a few been published in the specialist illustrated wagon books down the years.

 

That's just the ticket, thank you for the photo link. Glad I asked, as otherwise I would have gone for right in the centre of the hopper.

 

Paul A.

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I would have gone for right in the centre of the hopper.

 

You would have been spot on. There were some branded that way too.

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