PenrithBeacon Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I acquired this off eBay thinking it's a Manning Wardle body (I'll scrap the chassis). Now I'm not sure, can anyone advise please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Midland Railway Johnson 0-4-0ST. K's did one, but that doesn't look like it. Scratchbuilt? https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/LOCOMOTIVES-OF-THE-LONDON-MIDLAND-SCOTTISH-RAILWAY/LONDON-MIDLAND-SCOTTISH-RAILWAY/i-XrJ5wVK/A Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 Thank for the reply, I don't think it's the Johnson, the tank's not right and it's too heavy for brass, I think it's white metal. Still confused and dreading the thought I've bought a turkey! Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Hi Penrith, The worst thing that can happen is that you resell it on Ebay and recoup your money. The chassis looks like an early Triang Polly. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Bird Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Those early Triang chassis are actually quite good runners with a wheel change 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2020 Never mind what you thought it was - is it a fun little loco? Does it run? If fettled could it be even better? It looks like a great start for an uncommon but worthwhile project. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 It was advertised as a non-runner which is ok as I prefer to ditch the chassis on these K's kits anyway. It's put together well enough and it will do quite nicely with a new chassis. Thanks for all the replies, most appreciated. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2020 Definitely the Triang chassis. I'm wondering if it could be a modified Hamblings "Gnat" body. The cab shelter looks like thick brass sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 David A nice little loco, a great find, looking at the paint loss the parts may be brass. Looks to be sheet metal rather than cast metal. Certainly nelly/polly chassis I would be very tempted to put an etched chassis under it, CSP (taken over Agenoria kits) are happy to sell any of their chassis kits, and at very reasonable prices. only 2 chassis shown separately, but all are available http://cspmodels.com/abante/index.php?rt=product/manufacturer&manufacturer_id=21 As for the chassis being a non runner, its probably just needs a clean and oil, they are built like the proverbial toilet block and never break badly enough to be thrown away, put it back on eBay, bet you will get a tenner for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 I think most of the body is mazac not brass. I'm by no means sure about the prototype, it's very much like a Johnson 0-4-0ST but larger and the tank is square not hemispherical. Still it's interesting and will tax my modelling skills when I get around to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 9 hours ago, PenrithBeacon said: I think most of the body is mazac not brass. I'm by no means sure about the prototype, it's very much like a Johnson 0-4-0ST but larger and the tank is square not hemispherical. Still it's interesting and will tax my modelling skills when I get around to it. Shows how deceiving photos can be, still a sound base for a model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Notwithstanding my previous comments that this might be a Manning Wardle I'm now thinking that it might be inspired by a Neilson Box Tank. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 I've also , having compared it to several drawings in different publications, come to the conclusion that that body is probably intended to be 7mm scale even though the chassis is set to 00 gauge. A bit of a hybrid! I've wrapped it up and put it in box where it can fester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
88D Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 On 17/10/2020 at 14:00, PenrithBeacon said: I acquired this off eBay thinking it's a Manning Wardle body (I'll scrap the chassis). Now I'm not sure, can anyone advise please? You’ll have to let us know how you got on with radio control for this huge monster! Insert smiley here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 22/10/2020 at 12:25, PenrithBeacon said: Notwithstanding my previous comments that this might be a Manning Wardle I'm now thinking that it might be inspired by a Neilson Box Tank. David The cab reminds me of the Taff Vale 0-4-0T (or similar) loco, but the front splashers far to far forward, but not in the first photo. The chassis does look a good snug fit perhaps designed to fit a chassis rather than in scale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 This 'model' wasn't designed as a one-off, the body is a diecasting. a very solid piece of work. Making the tooling for such a thing costs money, serious money, I'm surprised that there aren't others like it out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Probably are, but sadly for years these things had no value and were either thrown away or given to jumble sales, I remember having my arm twisted to take home clockwork items which never sold, 40 years later they went on eBay and sold. My dad found a boxed up train set on a skip in the late 70's its what they did, old toys were just thrown away as nobody thought they had a value, certainly few wanted to buy them. Oh how things have changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, PenrithBeacon said: This 'model' wasn't designed as a one-off, the body is a diecasting. a very solid piece of work. Making the tooling for such a thing costs money, serious money, I'm surprised that there aren't others like it out there. David I don't know how much you knew Watford, My uncle owned a fruit and veg shop in Vicarage road, just past the girls grammar school. Opposite was a tailors shop and he sold second hand model railway items and had an agency with W&H. The model railway side grew and when he retired it was bought by Railmail. The s/h models were a side line in the original shop, though I think it grew as tailored/ repairs/alterations of clothes diminished, but eventually the S/H market died as models became much cheaper. Puffers had a thriving second hand section downstairs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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