Peterborough North

[Market65]

Definitely the LNER Coronation. Just such a superb train.

 

 Rob.

[LNER4479]

A Flying Hamburger is definitely more tastier than a Flying Banana. What a pity I've already voted ...

 

[great northern]

No locomotive this snowy morning. We have a close up of a Gresley triplet restaurant car, the work of an exceedingly clever duck, and which has at long last had its roof properly painted.

 

 

 

 

 

[New Haven Neil]

Morning, sorry for missing the glorious N5 cameo shot on Friday, I have been distracted this weekend, Arthur Itis is causing sleep issues, as in, none!

 

It has to be the Coronation, as the LMS job was ruined by that upturned bathtub at the front.  Removing it made them so much nicer!  (A little like A4 valences, but...shhhh....).

[great northern]

Coronation easy winner with 9 votes. Bananas nowhere. I was surprised that the Silver Jubilee only got 1 vote though.

 

Let's try best post grouping non corridor stock. This does not include DMUs, or self propelled oddities.

[Market65]

Well, for today’s poll, I’m going with Thompson non corridor stock - the first class seats were very comfortable.   That’s if I’ve understood the poll correctly to mean BR era.

 

 Rob.

Edited February 8, 2021 by Market65
To put in extra words.

[St Enodoc]

40 minutes ago, great northern said:

Coronation easy winner with 9 votes. Bananas nowhere. I was surprised that the Silver Jubilee only got 1 vote though.

 

Let's try best post grouping non corridor stock. This does not include DMUs, or self propelled oddities.

"Yes, we have no bananas, we have no bananas today"

 

Shame...

[David Bell]

44 minutes ago, Market65 said:

Well, for today’s poll, I’m going with Thompson non corridor stock - the first class seats were very comfortable.   That’s if I’ve understood the poll correctly to mean BR era.

 

 Rob.

I will vote for Thompson n/c stock too. I have spent a night or two sleeping in the SRPS example on the nights prior to railtours.  Very comfortable and of course full width seats so plenty room! That one was built in early BR days to the Thompson design.

David

[Clive Mortimore]

Best post grouping non-gangway stock?

 

That is simple LMS period 2. They looked great when in LMS maroon and fully lined out. Not so smart in plain BR crimson.

 

They even looked good when painted in multiple unit green with yellow lining and yellow panels, that is the Altrincham and North London EMU versions of these coaches.

Edited February 8, 2021 by Clive Mortimore

[Metropolitan H]

I know the rules say NO DMUs - but that doesn't include EMUs!

 

So my vote goes to the classic Southern Railway 4-SUB vehicles, the first (with domed cab roof ends) intoduced in 1941 with the rest (with no roof end doming) from 1944.

 

Hope that is acceptable.

 

Regards

Chris H

 

[New Haven Neil]

The Thompson ones for me too, the type with the loo in the middle....there's one on the NYMR, always liked it.

[thegreenhowards]

I like the Thompson CL and was tempted to go for that, but I’m going to vote for Gresley non -corridor stock. In particular the twin artics like the D.210 as below.

 

 

 

[3rd Rail Exile]

1 hour ago, Metropolitan H said:

I know the rules say NO DMUs - but that doesn't include EMUs!

 

So my vote goes to the classic Southern Railway 4-SUB vehicles, the first (with domed cab roof ends) intoduced in 1941 with the rest (with no roof end doming) from 1944.

 

Hope that is acceptable.

 

Regards

Chris H

 

 Good sidestepping attempt - I'll second that!

[great northern]

Hmmm... quite clever that, so I won't disallow it, unless it wins.

[jollysmart]

Thompson non corridor stock for me.

[great northern]

Tonight we have a Colwick to KX Goods service, which may well have been K3 hauled. My rather inaccurate Lincoln engine, 61828, is standing in, as I don't have a Colwick engine.

 

 

[great northern]

K3 head on this morning, but taken from a safe distance the other side of Crescent Bridge. I've never been entirely happy with the appearance of the Bachmann model, but it does look better from this angle.

 

 

Do my lamps look big in this?

[Oldddudders]

40 minutes ago, great northern said:

Do my lamps look big in this?

They look bright and white, which is what matters to the signalman trying to check all is well and where the train wants to go. 

[thegreenhowards]

Gilbert,

 

The lamps are too big IMHO. Are they springside? Why not use the LMS ones? 

 

As for the Bachmann K3, As discussed with TW on Gresley Jn, I think it’s passable. It doesn’t pick up all the subtle detail differences and I think it’s closest to the group standard version (61870 onwards). The broadside shot show up the rather small wheels but it’s less noticeable in the head on shot. You seem to have front footsteps on one side but not the other! I think a scrabble around in the four foot is on order!

 

Andy

[Tony Wright]

11 hours ago, great northern said:

Tonight we have a Colwick to KX Goods service, which may well have been K3 hauled. My rather inaccurate Lincoln engine, 61828, is standing in, as I don't have a Colwick engine.

 

 

A splendid picture, Gilbert,

 

And, speaking of pictures, the prototype/model shot taken from Crescent Bridge in the current BRM is one of the most-effective I have ever seen.

 

You mention the K3 being 'inaccurate'. Is that because it's Lincoln-based or the fact that it's left-hand drive and has the later series, longer cab with smaller windows? I know a few of the earlier-built K3s later got LH drive; was 61828 one of them? And, were K3s fitted with AWS in 1958? 

 

You'll also have to look in the 6' for the missing front step....................

 

The lamps are just about OK (LMS ones are far superior, though), but the one over the LH buffer appears to be floating.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Edited because it reiterates part of what Andy (The Green Howards) has just posted.

Edited February 9, 2021 by Tony Wright
to add something

[great northern]

7 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

A splendid picture, Gilbert,

 

And, speaking of pictures, the prototype/model shot taken from Crescent Bridge in the current BRM is one of the most-effective I have ever seen.

 

You mention the K3 being 'inaccurate'. Is that because it's Lincoln-based or the fact that it's left-hand drive and has the later series, longer cab with smaller windows? I know a few of the earlier-built K3s later got LH drive; was 61828 one of them? And, were K3s fitted with AWS in 1958? 

 

You'll also have to look in the 6' for the missing front step....................

 

The lamps are just about OK (LMS ones are far superior, though), but the one over the LH buffer appears to be floating.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Edited because it reiterates part of what Andy (The Green Howards) has just posted.

Thank you Tony, I shall treasure that compliment. As to the K3,I wanted a Lincoln engine, and for some reason I particularly remembered 61828. I didn't do the necessary research though, as you pointed out to me a while back, and I'm still considering what can be done about that.  There's a lot to be done in general terms in reuniting locos with bits that have fallen off, but those bits seem to get more and more difficult for me, what with sausage fingers and dodgy eyes. Tim and I now have a very long "to do" list, but hopefully we may be starting on a return to something approaching normality soon, and can do something about that.

[BMacdermott]

15 minutes ago, Tony Wright said:

A splendid picture, Gilbert,

 

The lamps are just about OK (LMS ones are far superior, though), but the one over the LH buffer appears to be floating.

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

 

Hello Gilbert & Tony

 

Difficult to tell but isn't the one over the left buffer a 'tail lamp'?

 

Brian

[great northern]

23 minutes ago, thegreenhowards said:

Gilbert,

 

The lamps are too big IMHO. Are they springside? Why not use the LMS ones? 

 

As for the Bachmann K3, As discussed with TW on Gresley Jn, I think it’s passable. It doesn’t pick up all the subtle detail differences and I think it’s closest to the group standard version (61870 onwards). The broadside shot show up the rather small wheels but it’s less noticeable in the head on shot. You seem to have front footsteps on one side but not the other! I think a scrabble around in the four foot is on order!

 

Andy

The problem with lamps is that in the dim and distant past a lot got superglued on, and they were Springside, because there weren't any better ones back then. The only remedy is to chop them off, and put on new lamp irons. I have tried making new ones myself, but they are so small as to be beyond my abilities.

 

As to the missing footstep, that is yet another example of my ability not to spot things when taking and looking at photographs.

[great northern]

5 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

 

Hello Gilbert & Tony

 

Difficult to tell but isn't the one over the left buffer a 'tail lamp'?

 

Brian

I hope not Brian, but I will have a look later on this morning.

[great northern]

Only a few votes in the latest poll, almost all for Thompson. For some reason those lavatory composites are among my favourite coaches, so I was pleased they got more than one mention.

 

Are we temporarily polled out again?  I suspect so, but I do want to keep this thread a two way process, so does anyone have any suggestions as to how we might achieve that?

 

In the meantime, can I ask you what you think were the most glaring omissions when It came to preserving steam locomotives?  To keep Clive interested, we will start with Midland Railway engines.