hmrspaul Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Whilst doing some internet wagon spotting I found this picture: https://rcts.zenfolio.com/rolling-stock/br/hA88287D7#ha87eefa9 On the RCTS site B15621 at Watford Junction 03/11/65. Does any one do the door as a spare in 7mm? Peco have modelled this wagon for many years in 7mm Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Peco have modelled this wagon for many years in 7mm Paul Paul Thanks for that. Never really looked at the Peco version. Just recently purchased a couple of the underframes and was impressed with the quality and the extra parts. Any idea what wagons had the more solid axle guards? Thanks again Ernie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2018 BWR0194 D15XX STENSON JUNCTION 03.1965 by David Russon, on Flickr Train 461 (65890) by Bruce Grime, on Flickr 43004D D3306 Cricklewood 12 Jul 69 by Dave58282, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 22, 2018 Author Share Posted November 22, 2018 Rare as ??? by RobT653, on Flickr 63465, 63462 Norton 1962 by dpwill44, on Flickr 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 28, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2018 img030 by Old Railway Pics - The Harrison & Rose Collection, on Flickr 1983 10-21 45068 Findern by The Gang of 3, on Flickr 1980 20185-181 Rufford by The Gang of 3, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 15Aug73. Milner Royd Junction. Class 40 D383. [slide_0433] by MrDeltic, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Rare as ??? by RobT653, on Flickr63465, 63462 Norton 1962 by dpwill44, on Flickr I like the top photo, are they 21t minerals? I didn't know they were used for scrap. Steve. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaddeus Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Lowestoft by Kevin Lane, on Flickr Going to need a few more for my model of Lowestoft 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 I like the top photo, are they 21t minerals? I didn't know they were used for scrap. Steve. They were, notably the fitted ones; we used to receive about 100 wagons a week at BSC Landore, about half-a-dozen being 21 tonners. To my eye, the odd thing in that photo is the single air-braked wagon at the head of the train, rendering the rest unfitted. After the mid-1980s, when domestic coal traffic virtually disappeared overnight, a number of 21t fitted minerals received air pipes to enable them to work from Dunston and Blaydon to Teesside, formed into Speedlink feeder services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb67 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 They were, notably the fitted ones; we used to receive about 100 wagons a week at BSC Landore, about half-a-dozen being 21 tonners. To my eye, the odd thing in that photo is the single air-braked wagon at the head of the train, rendering the rest unfitted. After the mid-1980s, when domestic coal traffic virtually disappeared overnight, a number of 21t fitted minerals received air pipes to enable them to work from Dunston and Blaydon to Teesside, formed into Speedlink feeder services. Thanks Brian, I asked the question in a separate thread but would you happen to know when minerals were first used for transporting scrap? Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2018 Lowestoft by Kevin Lane, on Flickr Going to need a few more for my model of Lowestoft Apologies for going slightly OT. What is going on with the tarpaulin covered wagons and what wagon are they, something to do with fish presumably?, there seem to be a lot of them to be an infrequent working, if they are containers why are so many covered, they can't all be damaged? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Smeeton Posted December 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2018 This one was in the http://www.rmweb.co....e/#entry3118179 thread. I just wondered if it was still on TOPS in its converted state. Snowdown by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Regards Ian PS. I posted this by mistake in http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/139938-16-t-mineral-wagons-for-the-pontypool-blaenavon-railway-appeal/&do=findComment&comment=3384491 so if you have seen it twicce, you are not dreaming, I am just being incompetent! 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaddeus Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Apologies for going slightly OT. What is going on with the tarpaulin covered wagons and what wagon are they, something to do with fish presumably?, there seem to be a lot of them to be an infrequent working, if they are containers why are so many covered, they can't all be damaged? Mike. Dont know Mike, fish was usually in dedicated fish vans or in a variety of other ventilated vans, I have a couple of photos of containers sitting in the yard but not on the harbour side. For Birdseye maybe, but these arent insulated - unless a tarp counts as insulation... Any information would be gratefully received. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just about make this one out in pic's taken in Aug' 1982. They may be of use for a Tinsley 1980's based layout, Tinsley DMD Internal user 041217. 25 056 & 45 029. 20 003. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Dont know Mike, fish was usually in dedicated fish vans or in a variety of other ventilated vans, I have a couple of photos of containers sitting in the yard but not on the harbour side. For Birdseye maybe, but these arent insulated - unless a tarp counts as insulation... Any information would be gratefully received. Richard The other thing they might be is loads of semi-finished softwood from Scandinavia and the Baltic, which was imported via the smaller East Coast ports. This was carried on a mixture of purpose-built timber wagons, Plate wagons and 'Rectank' wagons to various locations, including Melton Mowbray; the wagons were sheeted, with the tarpaulins coming down to solebar level. Conversely, when I've seen containers (and vans) sheeted because of leaking roofs, the tarpaulin only covers the top, and a couple of feet down the sides and ends. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Thanks Brian, I asked the question in a separate thread but would you happen to know when minerals were first used for transporting scrap? Steve. They were certainly used in that role by the mid-1960s; I remember them at our local steelworks. I can imagine that wooden wagons preceded them, though I'm not sure where you'd look for confirmation. It's also possible that there wasn't that much scrap traffic outside the major manufacturing areas; such scrapyard staples as domestic appliances and scrap cars weren't exactly common-place, whilst there were a lot of small foundries, producing things like drain gratings and manhole covers, who would use up locally-produced scrap to supplement pig-iron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted December 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2018 There was something of a sea change in the scrap trade by the mid 60s, and as a byline it affected Dai Woodham's attitude to cutting up steam engines. The industry had developed in the late 40s on the back of war surplus disposal, which was running out by about this time, and new sources of material were being sought; the cars and washing machines, as well as railway scrap which bridged the gap between military surplus and the modern type of material for a good decade. Now, I am no expert on this, but it seems to me that this coincided with the development of the large scale transport of scrap by rail, originally in 16ton minerals but continuing to the present day, from breakers' yards to steelworks where it was melted down and given the opportunity of an exciting new career as a washing machine or something... A wooden bodied wagon would not have lasted long with this sort of load trying to demolish it (the steel 16tonners took a bit of a knocking about), and was probably unsafe, but now I've stuck my head over that particular parapet, there'll be a flood of photographic evidence! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just about make this one out in pic's taken in Aug' 1982. They may be of use for a Tinsley 1980's based layout, Tinsley DMD Internal user 041217. 20 003. 1-5-2018_188.JPG 20 003 was a relatively early withdrawal, going in August 1981 according to railuk.info. So the picture of the locomotive may be unusual too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 3, 2018 Wye (Kent) station in 1969 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr Sheerness Steel sidings in 1980 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr Haddenham (Cambridgeshire) by Kevin Lane, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owd Bob Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 By heck! The bottom pic' of the class 31 could'nt half pass for a model. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 3, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 3, 2018 Apologies for going slightly OT. What is going on with the tarpaulin covered wagons and what wagon are they, something to do with fish presumably?, there seem to be a lot of them to be an infrequent working, if they are containers why are so many covered, they can't all be damaged? Mike. HI Mike I think it is a sheeted load, the wagons carry whatever have roller bearings. Conflats never did. By heck! The bottom pic' of the class 31 could'nt half pass for a model. Hi Bob No, the give away is the LMS van, it ain't a Bachmann one it is too tall. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Wye (Kent) station in 1969 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr Sheerness Steel sidings in 1980 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr Haddenham (Cambridgeshire) by Kevin Lane, on Flickr bottom pic of the 31 ? Sorry but no 1 has done anything that looks like a 31 yet (00 Gauge that is) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 The last steam Ulverston Shunt by Gricer1946, on Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The last steam Ulverston Shunt by Gricer1946, on Flickr That loco needs weathering.. The second wagon shows the two bottom end-planks replaced with steel channel; some were built like this, but many more were 'retro-fitted', after moving loads went through the ends. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted December 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 11, 2018 RS1330 76039 PENISTONE FRI 17.04.1981 by David Russon, on Flickr RS1385 40035 LLANDUDNO JUNCTION TUE 26.05.1981 by David Russon, on Flickr BWR0191 D1xx STENSON JUNCTION 03.1965 by David Russon, on Flickr 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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