Leyland Experimental Coach

[Baby Deltic]

Drifting off topic somewhat the bumpers, exhausts and fuel cap flaps used to drop off the early Leyland Nationals. I much prefered the Bristol RE now a Bristol bodied railway coach would have looked much better..

 

How do passengers exit a Leyland built railway coach? One out all out!

Especially if it was an E C W bodied Bristol REL body.

[GordonC]

Are there any photos of what the inside of this coach looked like?

[acg5324]

Are there any photos of what the inside of this coach looked like?

Yes at the excellent Train Testing website.

http://www.traintesting.com/leyland-coach.htm

[acg5324]

I’ve bitten the bullet and acquired some Farish Leyland Nationals to marry up to a Farish Mk1 coach chassis and build RDB977091.

I’ll post some progress pictures on my Layout Topic

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75679-kensington-olympia-in-n-scale/?p=3303741

[Gibbo675]

Hi Folks,

 

This is my attempt in OO gauge, below is a basic set of instructions explaining how I did it.

 

Here are some photos and a diagram shewing where the cuts and joints are located, the doors are laminated from a .040" backing and a .030" fascia that is cut as a chunky "L" shape. The skirt along the bottom of the coach is also a lamination of two strips of .040" plasticard and was seriously tricky to fit.

I gauged the fit of the body parts where I cut through the windows by making a gauge from plasticard that fitted very neatly into a window aperture and then filled carefully until it was a good fit.

If you use three body shells you might get away with not having to cut through any windows as I did but that would be your call. Lining everything up and keeping it straight was really quite difficult, also the ribs on the roof are not exactly inline with the centre of the body and so when the two halfs are brought together a slight bit of filling is needed to cheer them up a bit.

Peters Spares sells the bodies and seats for a reasonable sum but not the windows which I have not yet fitted to mine.

The Mk1 under frame has had the bogie pivots brought to the correct centres and the ride height adjusted to make the buffers sit at 14mm from the rail. The ends of the coach were cut out leaving only the gangways which locate into the recess of the 142's non existent gangways should be, shims were fitted to make the ends square up to each other and a small self tapper was screwed through the little spy hole in the door to secure the new body to the under frame at each end. There are two boxes on the under frame at the toilet end which I made 2mm deeper than the battery boxes with a 45* on the bottom edge. One of the battery boxes was repositioned opposite to the other and both are at the opposite end to the dynamo.

Looking at the photos you should be able to work the rest out and for images I Googled RDB 977091.

Any questions do ask and I shall help out where possible.

 

Gibbo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[acg5324]

Nice work, I’ve four N gauge Farish Leyland National bodies to chop as required, only need two for the sides but more for the roof. The bus is a bit narrow so the it might be better just to use the sides and make a new roof in one piece.

 

Do you have a photo of the repositioned underframe equipment?

[Metr0Land]

The coach stored in the open at Cynheidre 09Apr16. I didn't see it at the Aug Bank Holidy open day this year but must admit I forgot to look for it!

 

[Gibbo675]

Nice work, I’ve four N gauge Farish Leyland National bodies to chop as required, only need two for the sides but more for the roof. The bus is a bit narrow so the it might be better just to use the sides and make a new roof in one piece.

 

Do you have a photo of the repositioned underframe equipment?

Hi acg,

 

Here are the photos requested, I don't make any great claim for accuracy of the underframe modifications as I worked from photographs but they seem to look right.

 

 

The toilet is at the end of the larger boxes with the dynamo at the end opposite.

 

Gibbo.

[acg5324]

Hi acg,

 

Here are the photos requested, I don't make any great claim for accuracy of the underframe modifications as I worked from photographs but they seem to look right.

 

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The toilet is at the end of the larger boxes with the dynamo at the end opposite.

 

Gibbo.

Many thanks for that...just the job.

[montyburns56]

Shrewsbury

 

 

[kevinlms]

30 minutes ago, montyburns56 said:

Shrewsbury

 

 

The replacement bus service, is now standing at Platform 7!

 

Edited May 15, 2020 by kevinlms

[russ p]

Any interior pictures of it, I would expect it to be similar to a 155 inside.  Ironic really as the reason given for no more been converted was that it wasn't an improvement over the mk1 but it was what we got in the end, except that had this project gone to completion we would have still had loco hauled stock through the 90s and maybe beyond 

[melmerby]

5 minutes ago, russ p said:

Any interior pictures of it, I would expect it to be similar to a 155 inside.

Mentioned above:

[russ p]

45 minutes ago, melmerby said:

Mentioned above:

 

Pretty similar to 155 , with a few more tables could  have been ok

[ColinK]

One the Realtrack 142 is released there should be plenty of Hornby Pacers available to convert.  Could be tempted to have a go myself.

[The Evil Bus Driver]

On 15/05/2020 at 19:12, ColinK said:

One the Realtrack 142 is released there should be plenty of Hornby Pacers available to convert.  Could be tempted to have a go myself.

They do have different dimensions tbh, being wider. You'd be better off buying a few Peco (Ex Tower) Nationals for the bodies.

[KevinRussell1975]

On 09/09/2011 at 17:02, coachmann said:

A relatively innexpensive coach was required for short-distance light traffic, the initial idea being to marry a bus body to a long wheelbase wagon chassis. As an experiment, the Mk.I chassis off erswile E21234 was sent to British Leyland at Workington in 1982 for the latter to fabricate a body using standardised panels off the 'National' bus. It was returned to BR in January 1983 and was fitted with B4 bogies.

 

The interior consisted initially of two open saloons seating 32 passengers (green & blue seats) and 40 passengers(orange & brown seats). Seats were unidirectional, there were no tables, and the whole coach was designated no smoking and was electrically heated. There were hopes of more vehicles of this style but press reaction was not good. Finished in corporate blue and grey, RDB977091 never entered revenue stock.

 

[KevinRussell1975]

"It never entered revenue earning service..."

Oh, yes it did: it regularly appeared on Manchester Piccadilly - Brighton services!

[Phatbob]

57 minutes ago, KevinRussell1975 said:

"It never entered revenue earning service..."

Oh, yes it did: it regularly appeared on Manchester Piccadilly - Brighton services!

 

I remember riding in it once northwards from East Croydon.  Once was enough!

[melmerby]

2 hours ago, KevinRussell1975 said:

"It never entered revenue earning service..."

Oh, yes it did: it regularly appeared on Manchester Piccadilly - Brighton services!

I saw it a few times between Coventry & Birmingham

[montyburns56]

4 hours ago, KevinRussell1975 said:

"It never entered revenue earning service..."

Oh, yes it did: it regularly appeared on Manchester Piccadilly - Brighton services!

 

Yeah, I've got a picture of it (not mine) of it sat in between an aircon MK2 and a non-aircon MK2 at Man Picc. I've hosted it on another site as I'm not sure where it came from.

 

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1FO0E

 

There's also quite a few pictures of the train on Train Testing website.

 

http://www.traintesting.com/leyland-coach.htm

 

[keefer]

5 hours ago, KevinRussell1975 said:

"It never entered revenue earning service..."

Oh, yes it did: it regularly appeared on Manchester Piccadilly - Brighton services!

The quote didn't say it never entered revenue earning service - it said the coach never entered revenue stock i.e. it remained, officially, a Departmental/Research Dept. asset.

Edited June 29, 2021 by keefer