RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2012 I cleaned the windows many a time and I never fell off. Never mind "Elf's and Snot", If I had been daft enough to let go, it would have been my own fault. Best Wishes, Mick. My mate didn't get his nickname, Flying Signalman by accident, or rather he did ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Dear Sean, attached a rarther poor view of the NERlys way of fixing handrails to the later "S4" design. As you can see the stanchion bolts trough the walkway bracket. Gylberdyke had the handrail screwed direct to the cabin as per Bridlington South. I cleaned the windows many a time and I never fell off. Never mind "Elf's and Snot", If I had been daft enough to let go, it would have been my own fault. Best Wishes, Mick. Thanks Mick. Another good photo. Just to clarify though as I didn't make it that clear, (it was gone 2am after a busy late shift in my defence), how do you make the 4mm version of the handrails? Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thanks Mick. Another good photo. Just to clarify though as I didn't make it that clear, (it was gone 2am after a busy late shift in my defence), how do you make the 4mm version of the handrails? Cheers. Sean. An honest answer to an honest question, I have never made any. I belive the brackets etc were incorporated in the D&S kit, but as yet, I have not assembled mine. Another way would be to fabricate each bracket either from Plasticard or Brass. I need to solve the problem, there will be at least one such box on my layout. Best Wishes, Mick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 And just to show I'm not a complete novice when it comes to modelling signal boxes, here's one I made earlier. Bridlington South which was made about 15 years ago and has been in storage since. I was able to take measurements between trains and so this model is as close as I could get it sizewise. Unfortunately, some of the down pipes have come adrift and the whole box could do with a refurb, but until I find a layout big enough - it had 120 levers at one point, hence why there's no interior modelled - it'll stay in its box. I have noticed that the locking room windows on this box are much finer than my current Quay Crossing effort. I think they are etched and I've seen some other boxes on this thread look similar. Can you still get these etches? I don't remember who made them or where they come from? Cheers. Sean. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 An honest answer to an honest question, I have never made any. I belive the brackets etc were incorporated in the D&S kit, but as yet, I have not assembled mine. Another way would be to fabricate each bracket either from Plasticard or Brass. I need to solve the problem, there will be at least one such box on my layout. Best Wishes, Mick. Thanks Mick. I was thinking I'd have to revert to my usual "make it from plastic rod" theory. Looks like it may be the way forward. I'll google D+S before making a start on them though. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2012 For BG box the group did discuss if for a key building whether the incorrect english bond would be OK; we decided from three feet or so it was fine! The biggest issue is that embossed plastic sheets have mortar (sp?) courses which are too wide really. This is indeed a very good discussion point. I think that there is a compromise here somewhere, between scale representation of bricks and mortar, and what the eye expects to see on a model. This is similar for whether the mortar courses should be indented in some kind of relief. In practice, it's hard to discern when scaled up, hence brick papers ought to suffice at one level, but my view is that the eye expects to see some kind of relief, even on the model.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Here is a challenge. York Locomotive, the world's biggest mechanical signalbox, 295 levers. Best Wishes, Mick. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Here is another York picture. For some reason, the pictures will only load one at a time. Mick. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Finaly got the inside view to upload. Mick. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 16, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2012 I have noticed that the locking room windows on this box are much finer than my current Quay Crossing effort. I think they are etched and I've seen some other boxes on this thread look similar. Can you still get these etches? I don't remember who made them or where they come from? Cheers. Sean. Sean, they look like the D&S ones, the same as I used, I doubt very much that they will be available at the moment as I don't think they went to MSE with the signal parts. You could try writing to Danny Pinnock in the off chance that he might have some, don't bother Googleing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Sean, they look like the D&S ones, the same as I used, I doubt very much that they will be available at the moment as I don't think they went to MSE with the signal parts. You could try writing to Danny Pinnock in the off chance that he might have some, don't bother Googleing. Thanks for the advice Worsdell. I thought they might have been D+S as that company made all sorts of N.E.R. etches etc. It was a few years ago when I built Brid South and a friend was making all sorts of other stuff, water towers and bridges etc. I'm guessing D+S has sold up now from your comments?..... Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 D&S models are still very much in business. Just spoke to him a couple of days ago to order loads of his rather excellent 7mm scale 40ft ladders! The contact details are... 46 The Street, Wallington, nr Baldock, Hertfordshire , SG7 6SW 01763 288353 Jon F 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 D&S models are still very much in business. Just spoke to him a couple of days ago to order loads of his rather excellent 7mm scale 40ft ladders! The contact details are... 46 The Street, Wallington, nr Baldock, Hertfordshire , SG7 6SW 01763 288353 Jon F Ah. Thanks Jon. I may have sorted it now, but will drop him a line regardless I think. I don't suppose there's an email address is there? Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren01 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Finaly got the inside view to upload. Mick. HI Mick That is one hell of a signal box! All thebest Darren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 In todays health and saftey conscious world, you're not allowed on on them I guess..... Assuming you have them! Seems odd when you are required to observe things through the windows that you can't physically clean some of them! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 Mick, Superb photos, The Briddlington box looks a challenge,and very nice model how long did it take to construct? Many years ago I built the same box in 4mm with full interior and lighting, Here is a Highland box Kinloss in 7mm scale. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 A couple more I made some years ago. The LMS bracket is fabricated from brass strip and angle and as working "Rocker Shafts" on the front trimmer as per prototype. I cant remember much of how I built the LNWR bracket, or who's etches I used for the arms. The brackets are probably ex Ratio. The main post, dolls and trimmers will be brass bar etc. Mick. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 For a self confessed LMS upper quadrant-aholic, it's surprising how many GW signals I've been persuaded to build... Here's a couple I made earlier. The 3 doll is based on one at Shrewsbury Crewe Jn and the little stumpy fella was to fit in a tight spot on someones layout. Keep them coming chaps..!! Jon Fitness 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 19, 2012 Author Share Posted January 19, 2012 Some very nice signals on here and Mick even tho I may have seen some before its all inspiring stuff, Back to boxes Here is another early effort constructed back in the 90s a freelance GWR type box with full interior fro a Welsh layout. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 19, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2012 The 3 doll is based on one at Shrewsbury Crewe Jn a Jon Fitness This one I do believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 This one I do believe Thats the chap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Mick, Superb photos, The Briddlington box looks a challenge,and very nice model how long did it take to construct? Many years ago I built the same box in 4mm with full interior and lighting, The Bridlington South box is my effort Gravy!..... I'm sure Mick would have made a much better job...... Anywho, when I built it, I was working at the box in question, so I reckon it took me about 6 months in between trains..... The window frames were the biggest pain ever and if you look closely at the North end - the end without the staircase - the eagle eyed among you will notice my measurements fell flat on this section! Your's is a nice job though, it seems to capture the spirit of this box well. Did you model the levers, all 120 of them? I chickened out before I went completely mad, although I've just finished adding 60 levers to my Quay Crossing model! Wibble! Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hi Sean, My appologies for not making it clear that it was you I was responding to with regard to Briddlington :-) Here is a box in 7mm of Spratton LNWR 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Here is another type 4 LNWR box in 7mm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Here is a very early effort of a 7mm type LNWR box 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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