eastwestdivide Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Adding the the Hull story, this one (Wilmington) is now on a cycle route, but was looking very smart in 2009: and a view along the river of the one in post 179 (that's still open), showing the central bearing of the bridge: I can recommend a trip along that river (by car, bike or boat) - some fascinating bridges to be seen. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Strictly speaking Wilmington is not a "Block Post" and never was, so therefore not a "Signal Box". Nevertheless, a very interesting structure. I have numerious glass plate negatives, plus several drawings. For your interest, a few attached. On the sky line of the top picture, about 4inches from the left edge, the H&B bridge and signal box can be seen. Best Wishes, Mick. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Great quality on those 100-year-old photos. ...Strictly speaking Wilmington is not a "Block Post" and never was, so therefore not a "Signal Box".... Out of interest, do you happen to know the operational details - if it wasn't a block post, did it control rail traffic approaching the bridge? Or did the adjacent signalboxes control the traffic and then send a message to the bridge box to open? Would there be some kind of interlocking? Signalling non-expert here, so go easy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 The swing bridge was released by Wincolmlee signal box, there was electric locking etc between the various signals. As a further safe gaurd Sykes Lock and Block was also in use. At your request, I have kept it simple, I have full details here, or see the book "More Illustrated History of the Railway's of Hull". I belive still in print from "Booklaw". Best Wishes, Mick. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Train Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) very nice photos Mick, crying out tio be modelled. This box is Ormskirk and in 4mm scale and has a full interior,the steps fit flush with platform tops. Edited October 11, 2014 by Gravy Train 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Gravy, as always "Omskirk" is the "Business" very good work. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted April 28, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2012 This comes with not knowing the patch.. I'd seen C4 in the picture upthread and thought i had a diagram but this is 4A. The structure still remains in the middle of Carlisle station, it looks like a bay window ! Thanks for the info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7mm Mick Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 very nice photos Mick, crying out tio be modelled. I couldn't agree more, certainley food for thought. This would be a formidable structure in 7mm, but what a model it would make. Thanks for posting Mick, ATB Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 If anyone is interested, I have a good set of drawings here of Wilmington Bridge, as reproduced in the Engineer 1908. A quick calculation, the bridge as a 160ft span x approx 30ft wide (Plus the Walkway on the north side) or 3ft 9ins X 8 1/2ins (7mm) and 2ft 1 1/2ins (4mm.) I know of at least one model, I don't recall the builder's name but the finished job was in "BRM" about 15 years ago. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yet another "Blast from the Past", I stumbled across the attached, one of my early signals of c1994. No prizes for noticeing the deliberate mistake, I look forward to your answers. Best Wishes, Mick. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2012 Does it involve Rule 55? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Does it involve Rule 55? NO, not Rule 55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) The white lines on the arms are different widths. Edited May 5, 2012 by Worsdell forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted May 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2012 Here is my model of Hawkhurst for a future layout of mine... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2012 Yet another "Blast from the Past", I stumbled across the attached, one of my early signals of c1994. No prizes for noticeing the deliberate mistake, I look forward to your answers. Best Wishes, Mick. Ah! is the base 'post' parallel and not tapered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 The white lines on the arms are different widths. Paul, I'd not noticied, but indeed you are correct, though I have noted the odd difference on full size arms. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Ah! is the base 'post' parallel and not tapered? Paul, yes spot on. In those far off days, I built the main stem around a length of square timber. Best Wishes, Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted May 5, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 5, 2012 Actually I did remember you telling me once that they weren't tapered... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Actually I did remember you telling me once that they weren't tapered... The ones I make now are tapered, and soldered up "Model Aircraft" fashion over a drawing. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Latest effort, ex North British Railway stop signal 4mm scale MSE etches, post edged with 0.8mm angle Arm to be connected and a slight amount of tidying up. Mick. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Further to earlier posts re Wilmington Bridge, here is one that came my way yesterday. Said to be the first train over the new span. Whatever, and apart from the bridge a nice view of a "BTP" and NE rollingstock. Mick. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochty no more Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Latest effort, ex North British Railway stop signal 4mm scale MSE etches, post edged with 0.8mm angle Arm to be connected and a slight amount of tidying up. Mick. We are currently restoring a full size version of this at the Kingdom of Fife Railway preservation society ( see NBR signal parts - Railways of Scotland forum ). your model is superb, the signal arm is particulary good. I assume your model is post grouping as the ladder would be an LNER addition NBR signal arm in the background, shunt-facing road signal arm in foreground awaiting repair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknich2003 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thanks for kind comment re my model signal. I note your full size arm still has the ex NB "Green" spectacle glass and not the more usual "Blue". I fitted the ladder to "Finish off" the job, it didn't look right without one. Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochty no more Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thanks for kind comment re my model signal. I note your full size arm still has the ex NB "Green" spectacle glass and not the more usual "Blue". I fitted the ladder to "Finish off" the job, it didn't look right without one. Mick. The NBR "Blue" glass was used as parafin lamps gave off a yellow light, when shone through "blue" glass showed signal green. "Green" glass was used for oil lamps which produced a white light. The "Blue" glass on your model is colour perfect, we made the mistake of using Blue glass in a NBR flap ground signal - a yellow light behind it gives off a purple light. The correct colour is a blue/green tone, a guy that restores stained glass windows is making a replacement for us colour matching it using a piece of broken spectacle glass. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 That's rather nice. A slotted shunt. Super picture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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