petrovich Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Whilst I will admit that the LNWR liveries and designs are on the pleasant side, Samuel Johnson was a jewel amongst locomotive designers as far as aesthetics are concerned 4-4-0_Midland_Beatrice_1757.jpg What beautiful lines and form. Edited December 5, 2018 by petrovich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 I hope Tony will tolerate some slightly humourous posts at this time of joy and peace in the world. the year. It is the smell of Sherry and Mincing Pies that is a curse for some of us and we can not control the fingers. S. Anta. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 If you have worked out the others, p/e is part etched - usually just the frames and motion. I have been doing full drawings for everything I build for more than 30 years, on CAD since 1993 and it's quicker now to transfer these parts to an etch than it is to saw them out of metal. I have had to remember how to make coupling rods out of steel twice recently, to replace the rods on a Mercian HC 0-6-0DM (the less said about that the better) and to continue working on a scratchbuilt MR compound I started many years ago. If I am building a kit (from another manufacturer of course) I don't necessarily use all of what's in the box, if parts are wrong I usually throw them out and replace them. Part of the origin of Judith Edge kits is all the bad language coming from the workshop while I struggled to build someones awful kit, to quote Judith "You design proper kits and I'll sell them". Thanks Mike - bl00dy obvious really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 In conversation with two chums the other day, the subject of good-management came up. We all agreed that the best managers didn't need to be able to do the jobs of their subordinates. I cited a headmistress I once worked under, as a head of department. She admitted, she couldn't 'draw for toffee', but she had me to teach that subject. She was a brilliant head. How true. Many times organisations promote their top shop-floor operator and end up with their worst supervisor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 One train, one loco. Guess which railway adopted this yardstick? GWR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 It is difficult being a MR modeller as you always need two loco kits.............. Look at the upside - one to practice on, one to perfect! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Whilst I will admit that the LNWR liveries and designs are on the pleasant side, Samuel Johnson was a jewel amongst locomotive designers as far as aesthetics are concerned 4-4-0_Midland_Beatrice_1757.jpg a work of art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 LNWR enthusiasts really shouldn't be making derogatory remarks about double-heading... The thing is that the little 2-4-0 is pulling the Claughton and all those carriages too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 If you want a really good looking loco, forget the Midland, the LNWR and all this other minor companies and go for something Great. Great Central that is.... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrovich Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) If you want a really good looking loco, forget the Midland, the LNWR and all this other minor companies and go for something Great. Great Central that is.... GCR_11B_1031.jpg Not bad, a good effort I would say. To be honest around that period of time there were some beautiful locomotives built by all the companies. Regards Peter Edited December 5, 2018 by petrovich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The thing is that the little 2-4-0 is pulling the Claughton and all those carriages too. Leaving Carlisle heading south, an easy run! It would be interesting to know the date of the photo. There are a couple of unusual looking carriages in the train, 4th and 7th/8th behind the locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 GWR? Over the South Devon banks, even with a King? Just look at Irwell's latest, wonderful 'Book of The Kings'. Even the GWR's most-powerful loco needed a pilot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecorbusier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) LNWR enthusiasts really shouldn't be making derogatory remarks about double-heading... ________________________________________________________________________________ If we are talking double heading ... beat this for sheer elegance (locos and stock) ....on the long pull up towards Millers dale .... I'm certainly going to model it Edited December 6, 2018 by Lecorbusier 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 I hope Tony will tolerate some slightly humourous posts at this time of joy and peace in the world. the year. It is the smell of Sherry and Mincing Pies that is a curse for some of us and we can not control the fingers. S. Anta. Phil, I tolerate and rejoice in anything funny (we have several mirrors in our house). Though, at this time of the year, I make Scrooge look like a philanthropist (though I'm not really tight), if you can tolerate my 'Humbug! Humbug! responses, then we'll have a giggle. Actually, I'm not in the least bit humbuggy right now. I've put the frames together today for a SE Finecast K3 (being built for a mate in Scotland), and, 'Behold, I bring you glad tidings of great joy!' It's already working beautifully. More tomorrow. Regards, Tony. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) One of my Dad's photos. Undated, Whitley Crossing Wigan, Northbound on the WCML. Hurry up to Standish Junction, the "Caledonian" is only five minutes behind you !!! I just about remember these wheezing monsters at Springs Branch late 50's early 60's - Then they were gone. (Thank God said the firemen !!). Brit15 Edited December 5, 2018 by APOLLO 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2018 As a bit of a change from engines I'll just pop along to the other end of the train and a review by sir in the January (already?) issue of BRM of the new LNER brakevan from Hornby. I must admit to being briefly intrigued by the prototype picture at the head of page 105 albeit with the giveaway the giveaway of the excessively sturdy handle on the tail lamp. the picture at the bottom of the page confirmed the location as Little Bytham. Two really good messages there I think - firstly the weathering of the van which looked so natural as to mislead and secondly the attitude of the Guard on the rear verandah watching the world go by - an excellently modelled figure beautifully painted. Oh and the van was even exhibiting the correct lamps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Sim Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Morning Tony, Cracked on with that o2 conversion yesterday afternoon, I’ll be getting all the wiring done today for the chip. I’ll then test it on the layout, tweak anything and then I’ll complete it with all the bits and pieces left over and paint it. Thanks for the help with he start of it. Jesse 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2018 If you want a really good looking loco, forget the Midland, the LNWR and all this other minor companies and go for something Great. Great Central that is.... GCR_11B_1031.jpg Has that loco got the wrong cab....... Jerry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 Has that loco got the wrong cab....... Jerry I said nice things about you earlier. So stop being naughty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lecorbusier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 If you want a really good looking loco, forget the Midland, the LNWR and all this other minor companies and go for something Great. Great Central that is.... GCR_11B_1031.jpg If we are talking GCR (about which I know very little) I have to admit to preferring the lines of this https://www.gcr567loco.co.uk/history Hopefully this project will come to fruition in due course. If I ever won big on the lottery I would be sorely tempted to commission a pukka Johnson 4-4-0, possibly the 1808 class with round fire box and slimline boiler in pre 1902 condition & livery ..... pipe dreams 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2018 I said nice things about you earlier. So stop being naughty! Fair enough I do think the cabs a bit big though, could almost be an L&Y engine! Now if you want a really pretty engine - and its blue! Jerry 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 5, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2018 Fair enough I do think the cabs a bit big though, could almost be an L&Y engine! Now if you want a really pretty engine - and its blue! 018_REAL_14668_HVT.JPG Jerry Don't the crew get wet if it rains? Mind you, the S & D J R didn't have to go over anywhere like Woodhead so maybe half a cab was enough. I am not totally blinkered when it comes to preferences and I like many older locos. Johnson Singles and Dean Singles are both things of great beauty. But the proportions of that Robinson 4-4-0 are just perfect to my eyes. They got rebuilt with bigger boilers, pitched higher, which spoiled the looks but as built, just lovely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2018 Don't the crew get wet if it rains? Mind you, the S & D J R didn't have to go over anywhere like Woodhead so maybe half a cab was enough. I am not totally blinkered when it comes to preferences and I like many older locos. Johnson Singles and Dean Singles are both things of great beauty. But the proportions of that Robinson 4-4-0 are just perfect to my eyes. They got rebuilt with bigger boilers, pitched higher, which spoiled the looks but as built, just lovely. The Mendips can get a bit breazy round the ankles! Those Midland/SDJR cabs whilst wonderfully elegant were next to pointless. I remember standing in the cab of the Midland spinner at York and thinking this wouldn't offer much protection on a drafty night. Like you I have fairly broad tastes. I rather like the Brighton in the early 20th century and, though I try not to let on, I really like Edwardian GWR. Jerry 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2018 One train, no loco - SR with multiple units. A far more sensible and satisfactory solution. G. Grahame is right is some respects, who needs a loco when this beauty was as fast as a Deltic, as powerful as a Deltic and was more comfortable than the mk2s a Deltic hauled. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted December 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2018 The Mendips can get a bit breazy round the ankles! Those Midland/SDJR cabs whilst wonderfully elegant were next to pointless. I remember standing in the cab of the Midland spinner at York and thinking this wouldn't offer much protection on a drafty night. Like you I have fairly broad tastes. I rather like the Brighton in the early 20th century and, though I try not to let on, I really like Edwardian GWR. Jerry It can be our guilty secret. My first ever kit was a Ks Dean Goods and I still own a Triang Lord of the Isles. Those sorts of things with the clerestory carriages are hard to resist. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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