Wright writes.....

[Headstock]

Well, you did ask.

 

 

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And if you really want one without a cab!

 

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Many thanks Jol,

 

if you don't ask, now I have a whole page of goodies worth bookmarking for my inspirations folder. exquisite work.

 

 

You asked so here are three locos from Green Ayre, all built and painted by my late friend Tony Bond.

 

First 311 which was one of the last three of the class that were never nominally rebuilt to 483 class. Here at the head of a Wennington portion in the bay platform at Lancaster.

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In the foreground is the back of a running in board that only the operators can see that says Marthwaite.

Then 638 a Spinner that normally hauls the Inspection saloon.   I picked the kit up cheaply on the club stall at Warley and Tony worked his magic.]

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I noticed when I got it out of the box that two of the ender axleboxes have dropped off.   Glued, not soldered.   I'll have to get that attended to along with painting the wires that connect the tender pick ups in a less noticeable colour.

Then as a comparison No 14, a Kirtley 2-4-0 with outside cranks.   I love watching this in action.   However the first time I ran it through the platforms at green Ayre it ended up walking along the platform so we had to do a bit of adjustment.

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Sorry for the poor photos but it's a bit murky here today.

 

Jamie

 

Thanks Jamie,

 

huge respect for your contribution.

 

Good afternoon Andrew,

 

Many thanks for your kind comments.

 

I, too, have seen some very dodgy K3s, some built from SE Finecast kits. They are quite complex, but reward care and attention to detail.

 

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Here's mine again, on a typical LB duty.

 

SE Finecast Bachmann London Road K3 61812.jpg

 

Here's a real hybrid I made/painted/weathered. It's a Bachmann K3 body, modified to RH-drive, with a SE Finecast cab, on top of a SE Finecast set of frames (with modified Bachmann motion), towing a London Road GNR tender. 

 

Anchorage K3 61832.jpg

 

I think this is a very fine model of a K3, built/painted by Alan Hammet using an Anchorage kit.

 

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And a modified Bachmann K3, by Tony Geary. I added extra details, mainly in the form of wiggly pipes. This one performs the least-satisfactorily of all LB's K3s (there are more!), wobbling about in motion. Its gear is also in reverse. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Thanks Tony,

 

a magnificent set of K3s, top notch modeling. I'm still not a fan of the Bachmann valve gear, it's the Phillips head screw on the motion bracket and the way the combination lever fails to connect with the valve spindle guide, due to the radius rod being too short. However, the other modifications lift the Bachamann model well above the mundane. The SEF and Anchorage models just look superb. All inspirational stuff, I shall be doing some soldering tonight.

[CF MRC]

A line up of Victorian / Edwardian / Georgian engines. Forty years of scratch building effort. Not exactly prolific eh?

 

 

Apologies for the poor photo.

 

Tim

[jamie92208]

A line up of Victorian / Edwardian / Georgian engines. Forty years of scratch building effort. Not exactly prolific eh?

 

 

Apologies for the poor photo.

 

Tim

 

Some lovely locos there.  Is the American built loco in Green a Baldwin.   It looks very like my Midland Baldwin.

 

Jamie.

[CF MRC]

Some lovely locos there.  Is the American built loco in Green a Baldwin.   It looks very like my Midland Baldwin.

 

Jamie.

It is indeed, Jamie. Written up in MRJ #86 & 87 (1996).

 

Tim

[grahame]

Interesting to see your K3 with NER style cab as, having recently been given another Farish N class locomotive (in exchange for some modelling work) by a friend, I'm in the process of starting one of these varients myself.

 

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Another 3D print which, other than the removal of the supports, has had no other fettling done to it. This one will be LNER No. 91 in c. 1935 condition without buffer beam cutouts, right hand drive and will be paired with an ex GNR tender as I have a picture of the locomotive on a down express goods at Sandy (so must have passed through Hadley Wood).

 

 

 

That is a commendably good finish for a 3D print - well done. I've never been quite so lucky with 3D prints I've ordered through Shapeways.

 

G

[Mallard60022]

 

 

Edited to add - Does anyone model banking duties ? - I tried a couple of times with the inevitable disastrous results !!

 

Brit15

 

Bankers on Shap, 1967 Graham of Grantham, his other layout.

Phil.

Edited December 6, 2018 by Mallard60022

[grahame]

A line up of Victorian / Edwardian / Georgian engines. Forty years of scratch building effort. Not exactly prolific eh?

 

 

Apologies for the poor photo.

 

Tim

 

And presumably in 2mm scale. They certainly look like they should be in a museum - from their age and fine finish.

 

G.

[Steamport Southport]

 

 

 

SE Finecast Bachmann London Road K3 61812.jpg

 

Here's a real hybrid I made/painted/weathered. It's a Bachmann K3 body, modified to RH-drive, with a SE Finecast cab, on top of a SE Finecast set of frames (with modified Bachmann motion), towing a London Road GNR tender. 

 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

May I ask what type of tender that is please.

 

I have a SEF K3 and also have the numberplates for 61812. Kings Cross which shows you how long I've had them. But then found out that it had a GNR tender.

 

I take it that it's an Ivatt, but is it a horseshoe or self trimming that I need to order?

 

 

 

Jason

[t-b-g]

All this wistful dreaming of ancient Edwardian spindle boilers is all very well, rather than grainy pics, how about some actual models? I'm sure you old gents must have constructed these lost cabless wonders. Didn't the NE and GN have better looking examples, not to mention those pretty little NBR jobs.

 

Some I have built for myself and for others (or have done some work on) and a few from a certain well known GCR layout, with a handful from the late Malcolm Crawley that I now own.

 

[Headstock]

Some I have built for myself and for others (or have done some work on) and a few from a certain well known GCR layout, with a handful from the late Malcolm Crawley that I now own.

 

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Magnificent.

[Lecorbusier]

Marvellous ... what a treat. I do really enjoy the larger scale offerings of later years, but this little aside into the Edwardian has been a real treat.

[Tony Wright]

May I ask what type of tender that is please.

 

I have a SEF K3 and also have the numberplates for 61812. Kings Cross which shows you how long I've had them. But then found out that it had a GNR tender.

 

I take it that it's an Ivatt, but is it a horseshoe or self trimming that I need to order?

 

 

 

Jason

It is an Ivatt tender, Jason. Self-trimming, I would think.

 

With an asymmetric wheelbase.

 

Ten K3s at any one time had them in BR days. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Richard E]

It can be our guilty secret. My first ever kit was a Ks Dean Goods and I still own a Triang Lord of the Isles. Those sorts of things with the clerestory carriages are hard to resist.

Snap. In fact it has been my intention to dig out the Dean and rebuild it even though I'm not working in 4 mil these days.

 

Looking forward, despite a really nasty bout of sciatica, to this weekend and seeing Tony and Geoff H again.

 

As for my own layout the sciatica has curtailed things more than somewhat. I have, however, got almost all my stock running on DCC and some may have seen a couple of installation guides from me (cue comment from Tony) as I have done all the installations. I'm trying to concentrate on reliable running and I seem to have one particularly recalcitrant loco, putting a meter on it all is fine, running on the layout suggests a pick up problem; most baffling. In despair this may go for professional fettling!

[Steamport Southport]

It is an Ivatt tender, Jason. Self-trimming, I would think.

 

With an asymmetric wheelbase.

 

Ten K3s at any one time had them in BR days. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

 

Thanks. I thought it would be the Self Trimming version.

 

I haven't got the relevant RCTS book and the only reference I could find just mentioned it's a K3/2 fitted with an ex-GN tender.

 

 

 

Jason

[Tony Wright]

Thanks. I thought it would be the Self Trimming version.

 

I haven't got the relevant RCTS book and the only reference I could find just mentioned it's a K3/2 fitted with an ex-GN tender.

 

 

 

Jason

Though I used a LRM tender, Jason, another option (if you're not into forming brass) is to get one from SE Finecast. The sort (which is most-appropriate) sold with their recently-introduced J6. 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[Tony Wright]

Snap. In fact it has been my intention to dig out the Dean and rebuild it even though I'm not working in 4 mil these days.

 

Looking forward, despite a really nasty bout of sciatica, to this weekend and seeing Tony and Geoff H again.

 

As for my own layout the sciatica has curtailed things more than somewhat. I have, however, got almost all my stock running on DCC and some may have seen a couple of installation guides from me (cue comment from Tony) as I have done all the installations. I'm trying to concentrate on reliable running and I seem to have one particularly recalcitrant loco, putting a meter on it all is fine, running on the layout suggests a pick up problem; most baffling. In despair this may go for professional fettling!

Bring it along...............

 

Believe it or not, I have fixed DCC-related problems. 

Edited December 6, 2018 by Tony Wright

[Tony Wright]

Thanks to all your splendid contributions, this thread is now fizzing along at two pages a day! 

[Bucoops]

Some I have built for myself and for others (or have done some work on) and a few from a certain well known GCR layout, with a handful from the late Malcolm Crawley that I now own.

 

New Layout 032.jpgNew Layout 033.jpgTerrier 075.jpgSt Pancras.JPGBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 003.jpgBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 012.jpgBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 038.jpgEmpire Dock Road 009.jpg

 

I'm thoroughly biased towards the last one but they're all lovely.

[Headstock]

 

And if you really want one without a cab!

 

LRM McConnell Bloomer.JPG

 

Perhaps a parasol would look quite stylish this season. What's the story with the tender buffer housing?

[Tony Wright]

Many thanks Jol,

 

if you don't ask, now I have a whole page of goodies worth bookmarking for my inspirations folder. exquisite work.

 

 

 

Thanks Jamie,

 

huge respect for your contribution.

 

 

Thanks Tony,

 

a magnificent set of K3s, top notch modeling. I'm still not a fan of the Bachmann valve gear, it's the Phillips head screw on the motion bracket and the way the combination lever fails to connect with the valve spindle guide, due to the radius rod being too short. However, the other modifications lift the Bachamann model well above the mundane. The SEF and Anchorage models just look superb. All inspirational stuff, I shall be doing some soldering tonight.

Thanks Andrew,

 

I agree about the Bachmann valve gear. 

 

Without any modification it just jumbles along in a most-unprototypical way. 

 

I used it on the hybrid because it formed an article which was published in BRM some little time ago, and the then-editor, Ben Jones, felt it was probably the best option. Making valve gear must be the biggest stumbling block for locomotive builders everywhere. 

 

Is that why the GWR is so popular? 

 

Regards,

 

Tony. 

[petrovich]

Some I have built for myself and for others (or have done some work on) and a few from a certain well known GCR layout, with a handful from the late Malcolm Crawley that I now own.

 

New Layout 032.jpgNew Layout 033.jpgTerrier 075.jpgSt Pancras.JPGBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 003.jpgBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 012.jpgBuckingham 8th & 9th April 2008 038.jpgEmpire Dock Road 009.jpg

Superb, these do not need and further explanation !

 

Regards

 

Peter

[petrovich]

Being a Midland man at present, I always rather liked.....

 

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Thank you all for the book suggestions most informative.

 

Regards

 

Peter

[Compound2632]

Leaving Carlisle heading south, an easy run!

 

It would be interesting to know the date of the photo. There are a couple of unusual looking carriages in the train, 4th and 7th/8th behind the locos.

 

It's possible the carriages you've picked out are LNWR vehicles painted red - the photo could well date from the mid-1920s. Crewe had no great sense of urgency about repainting engines red or replacing the cast iron numberplates.

[Tony Wright]

Many thanks to Al (Barry Ten) for buying the model of DoG (built by the late Geoff Brewin), donated by Phil Bancroft.

 

With the monies raised by the LNER weekend on LB, that means I'll be sending cheques to the value of £575.00 to Cancer Research. That doesn't include anything I might make from any further loco doctoring.

 

By the end of the year, we won't be far shy of £3,000.00.

 

My thanks, as always, for all the generous donations made. 

[Jol Wilkinson]

Perhaps a parasol would look quite stylish this season. What's the story with the tender buffer housing?

Andrew,

 

best show thus:

 

 

This show the later longer wheelbase tender that usually ran with the Webb modified Bloomers, but the buffer housing design is the same. There was a semi elliptical multi leaf curved spring  fitted horizontally inside the housing. The buffers were anchored on the outer ends of the spring and, although the only drawings I have isn't too clear, the coupling hook appears to be anchored to the centre of the spring.

 

And a  couple more Edwardian delights;

 

A LNWR Whitworth, the smaller wheeled version of the Precedents a.k.a Jumbos. This was painted and lined by Ian Rathbone. The crew had nipped off for a comfort break, but have since returned

 

 

An 18" Goods or Cauliflower.  I painted this airbrushed cellulose paint and lined it with SMS transfers. Both of these are from George Norton kits, now part of London Road Models range. Both photos were taken several years ago while the London Road extension was till being built (and its still not really finished).