Jol Wilkinson Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 0-4-0T, no cab roof, in works grey? The black and red gear below the curved running plate with the sandbox filler looks a bit German. Two chimneys at the back with a horizontal smoke deflector looks a bit odd too. I've got no idea which railway built that. 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Left-hand drive. Must be H0... I thought the Leader of the house was normally seen behind the wheel of that one. I had a car with exhausts like that when I was six or seven. Here it is. Just goes to show, nothing in design is new. P Edited March 23, 2019 by Porcy Mane Insert missing words. 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 hours ago, RThompson said: Just checking, are those my kits John? Yes, they are just with plastic strip buffer beams in place of the dumb buffers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said: As for that bogie wheel, well, words fail me! Mike. For the price you'd think it was brass instead of plastic too. Most disappointing. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chamby Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2019 9 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Left-hand drive. Must be H0... So... left hand drive, it already has a double exhaust, they’ll be putting german style deflectors on it next! 2 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 22/03/2019 at 17:48, Tony Wright said: Last year at London's principal show I couldn't buy a motor/gears/gearbox, nor could I buy a metal locomotive kit (other than on the club second-hand stand). Wheels (loco ones) were conspicuous by their absence, and as for fittings - forget it. It'll be the same over this weekend I'd imagine. The answer? For builders like me, attend the specialist shows, though York still shines out as a beacon for 'modellers'. Having attended Ally Pally yesterday, the big shock for me was seeing a "For Sale" sign above the Hobby Holidays stand; after talking with Phil Atkinson it appears that it was a choice between Phil's Hobby Holidays business, or concentrating on Mrs A's Needlework/Craft business. Phil lost.... Fortunately Phil won't disappear altogether though - he'll continue with his excellent Chassis Jigs for example, as well as design work. However, finding someone to take on the business who has Phil's extensive knowledge of the products he sells (as well as being a really nice guy) won't be easy. Another loss to the hobby 7 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium thegreenhowards Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2019 I also visited Ally Pally yesterday. I thought it was a good show with several great layouts, but one particularly grabbed my attention - New Kensal Rise. They had come up with a really clever system for smoke generation in the locos with pulses in time with the motion. I’m told it was water vapour rather than oil based and a micro fan is situated inside the loco to pulse out puffs of steam. It also had convincing heavy weathering for the late steam era. Really atmospheric - great stuff. I even forgave it for being Western based! 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 23/03/2019 at 08:39, New Haven Neil said: Are they not Super Dexters in the lighter blue? Distant memory..... No, the rear wheels are too large for a Dexter. If new in 1957 and a Super Major it should be in light blue. And as far asI can find out only the Dexters seem to have had the orange radiator grills when new - all the Major' series models had blue (or possibly Chrome finished) grill. BtW the Fiekd Marshall looks great but is a little anachronistic for 1958 as a new vehicle because they went out of production in 1957. Back to trains? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 23/03/2019 at 10:59, ecgtheow said: The Fordson Majors I drove as a teenager at Storeton Hall Farm in the Wirral, where I worked in the school holidays, were the same mid blue as shown in the link in Jonathan Weallans' post above. William The one I 'drove' (alright steered if I am honest) was definitely that colour but somewhat work stained and faded, oh and it was over 60 years ago. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 24, 2019 I learnt to drive on a Fergy T20 (TVO) as soon as my legs were long enough to reach the pedals! I recall that it was started on petrol and then switched over to vaporizing oil....sorry vapourizing oil! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: No, the rear wheels are too large for a Dexter. If new in 1957 and a Super Major it should be in light blue. And as far asI can find out only the Dexters seem to have had the orange radiator grills when new - all the Major' series models had blue (or possibly Chrome finished) grill. BtW the Fiekd Marshall looks great but is a little anachronistic for 1958 as a new vehicle because they went out of production in 1957. Back to trains? Thanks Mike, As for the Field Marshall; it isn't new, but has just been repaired at the tractor factory at Essendine. Believable? Back to trains, indeed........... I went down early to Ally Pally today to photograph a layout for BRM. John Smith's rendition in O Gauge of a 'might have been' SR terminus on the Kent coast in 1947. Very nicely done, I thought. I enjoyed the show, chatted to lots of folks and was immensely gratified at the number of people who told me how much they'd enjoyed the recent LB moving footage. 'Are you going to do any more?' I was asked. We'll see. I drove down in my Ford Focus ST. What a slug compared with the car I was in yesterday as a passenger. 0-60 mph in around three seconds! Over 650 BHP, and that's the 'entry-level' McLaren. My face went through the back of my skull! Finally, may I please thank Pete Latham who most-generously handed over £100.00 to me today for me to send to CRUK? It was part of his fee for writing an article recently in BRM. Along with the generous donations yesterday from my guests, that means Mo and I will have sent £2,000.00 to the charity this year already. Once again, thanks to all. Edited March 24, 2019 by Tony Wright typo error 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Thanks Mike, As for the Field Marshall; it isn't new, but has just been repaired at the tractor factory at Essendine. Believable? Back to trains, indeed........... I went down early to Ally Pally today to photograph a layout for BRM. John Smith's rendition in O Gauge of a 'might have been' SR terminus on the Kent coast in 1947. Very nicely done, I thought. I enjoyed the show, chatted to lots of folks and was immensely gratified at the number of people who told me how much they'd enjoyed the recent LB moving footage. 'Are you going to do any more?' I was asked. We'll see. I drove down in my Ford Focus ST. What a slug compared with the car I was in yesterday as a passenger. 0-60 mph in around three seconds! Over 650 BHP, and that's the 'entry-level' McLaren. My face went through the back of my skull! Finally, may I please thank Pete Latham who most-generously handed over £100.00 to me today for me to send to CRUK? It was part of his fee for writing an article recently in BRM. Along with the generous donations yesterday from my guests, that means Mo and I will have sent £2,000.00 to the charity this year already. Once again, thanks to all. Please forgive me, but I have no idea how my post has just appeared twice! Edited March 24, 2019 by Tony Wright because I'm puzzled....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Quote As for the Field Marshall; it isn't new, but has just been repaired at tractor factory at Essendine. Beat me to it, Tony. When I made up the tractors on Lowfits for Thurston, I was treated to a lesson on transporting new tractors by someone who knew a lot about it. One of the things which stuck was that new tractors didn't have the exhaust fitted. Mine are therefore second hand and on their way to auction after a large farm estate went into liquidation. I have a picture somewhere of new tractors loaded transversely onto lowfits. i also have one of slightly longer wagons with two tractors back to back with the rear wheels interleaved. These were full trains leaving factories, though and I've never built stock for a layout which needed such traffic. n.b. The Ford model was a 'Dexta'. One of my near neighbours has a beautifully restored one. Edited March 24, 2019 by jwealleans 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted March 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, jwealleans said: n.b. The Ford model was a 'Dexta'. One of my near neighbours has a beautifully restored one. What a silly mistake to make... but we could start a thread on here about the correct type of cattle to use, Dexters being HO scale cattle on a 4mm scale layout. Tim Edited March 25, 2019 by CF MRC Silly mistake correction 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, CF MRC said: What a silly mistake to make... but we could start a thread on here about the correct type of cattle to use, Dexter’s being HO scale cattle on a 4mm scale layout. Tim My apologies for picking you up on this, Tim, and I'm not going to labour the 'problems' of grammar too much (I hope), but is the placing of either a possessive apostrophe or an apostrophe denoting a missing letter before an 's', the standard practice nowadays for making something plural? 'Dexter' is, I assume, a breed of (small) cattle? If so, then if one has more than one dexter, then isn't a couple or a herd of them just dexters (without a possessive apostrophe)? I know you well enough as a friend to know you'll take this the right way, but I've just been handed a few railway books to review. The pictures are wonderful, well-reproduced and of immense help to modellers, but the dreaded apostrophes appear all over the place in them. Newspapers/magazines have it, even rural signs. Travelling down the lanes of Norfolk one day, I came across this delightfully-vernacular, hand-painted sign - Deans Log's! It was there, but in the wrong place. English evolves, I know, but in this case, I'm down a Darwinian dead-end. One journalist described my type as a 'Grammar Nazi'. I must admit to never having come across this epithet before, and I considered it rather pejorative (not personally, but in its usage). Anyway, back to modelling. Today I have more point rodding to make and install. Regards, Tony. Edited March 25, 2019 by Tony Wright typo error 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Snap! (Nearly) Tony, do you happen to have any more photos of this layout, or will we/I have to wait for the next BRM? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jack P said: Snap! (Nearly) Tony, do you happen to have any more photos of this layout, or will we/I have to wait for the next BRM? I do, Jack, However, no more will be seen (for obvious reasons) until they're published in the magazine. One question, please? In Malachite livery, weren't the SR locos' wheels painted green? Regards, Tony. Regards, Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Good Morning Tony Did you venture down to London and visit Ally Pally yesterday, if so I didn't get chance to meet you. I did meet many people who converse on here and some who just enjoy reading the content. Thank you to all who stopped by Pig Lane and said "Hello". I will not list everyone, mainly because knowing me I will miss someone off or add someone who wasn't even at the show. 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: My apologies for picking you up on this, Tim, and I'm not going to labour the 'problems' of grammar too much (I hope), but is the placing of either a possessive apostrophe or an apostrophe denoting a missing letter before an 's', the standard practice nowadays for making something plural? 'Dexter' is, I assume, a breed of (small) cattle? if so, then if one has more than one dexter, then isn't a couple or a herd of them just dexters (without a possessive apostrophe)? Edited Regards, Tony. I have mentioned in the past I have difficulty with written English, one of the odd things is the rules, like those of the use of apostrophes I understand. I may spell the words wrong, the punctuation marks are hopefully in the right places. I do have difficulties with colons and semi colons, even after working as a nurse on an gastrointestinal ward. One thing I did learn on that ward was the ability to talk s*** for hours. Edited March 25, 2019 by Clive Mortimore 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Regarding Tony's post of 19:37 yesterday, I reckon it contains an error of context. I'll leave Tony to find it and apply his own red pencil. More important is the number on the buffer beam of the School's class. Number 92 of the Southern Railway was a shunting tank - a digit has gone missing, or was never applied in the first place. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: I do, Jack, However, no more will be seen (for obvious reasons) until they're published in the magazine. One question, please? In Malachite livery, weren't the SR locos' wheels painted green? Regards, Tony. @Tony Wright I eagerly await the BRM they feature in then! As a general rule of thumb, yes they were. The Schools and King Arthurs both received such treatment, an the 3 M7's that received malachite didn't. In 'The Brighton Atlantics' : James S. Baldwin, advises that neither the H1's nor the H2's received Malachite wheels, and then by chance 'The Big Four in Colour, 1935-50' : David Jenkinson, John Edgington, John Smart, has two colour photos, of both 2425 'Trevose Head' and 2421 'South Foreland' both with black wheels. I had thought maybe they were just very dirty, but no so, as the picture of 2421 shows the loco in very clean malachite green, and the wheels are quite clearly black. I was surprised too. As a mention, on 2422 the cab front should be black, to represent 1947 condition,or more accurately, the application of post-war malachite and the visible inside of the cab doors should be black, with the outside being lined malachite, and it should still have its snifting valves, I only know this because 1947 is also my modelling period. This by no means takes away from the excellent model shown though! (Merely pointing these things out). I actually think it looks nicer with the wheels green. Edit: After checking, both of the Ex-LBSC J1/J2 tanks had green wheels post war, maybe Brighton paint shop got lazy? Edited March 25, 2019 by Jack P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, bbishop said: More important is the number on the buffer beam of the School's class. Number 92 of the Southern Railway was a shunting tank - a digit has gone missing, or was never applied in the first place. Bill Either or, Bill. I'll look out for my 'mistake'. Tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tony Wright said: Either or, Bill. I'll look out for my 'mistake'. Tony. Mea culpa, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 And there's me thinkinking that an apostrophe was something awarded to the winners of blood donors football competition. At least I can (genuinely) claim dyslexia. In think the reasoning that language (all languages) is constantly evolving is a good claim. Should that also apply the the written word? I can't give an answer to that but I do wonder how often software & online grammar checkers get things totally wrong. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted March 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Tony Wright said: My apologies for picking you up on this, Tim, and I'm not going to labour the 'problems' of grammar too much (I hope), but is the placing of either a possessive apostrophe or an apostrophe denoting a missing letter before an 's', the standard practice nowadays for making something plural? 'Dexter' is, I assume, a breed of (small) cattle? if so, then if one has more than one dexter, then isn't a couple or a herd of them just dexters (without a possessive apostrophe)? I know you well enough as a friend to know you'll take this the right way, Of course, Tony. I blame it on predictive text and not checking. This talk of Dexters could become very sinister... Tim 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Thefe houfes are ERECTED and ENDOWED For EVER By Mrs Mary Squires for the Ufe of Six Decayed Tradefmans Widows of this Parifh and no other. Ano. Domi. 1795. Language does indeed change, both spoken and written. I await comments from the experts on the above. Particularly in respect of who is decayed. Bernard 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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