steve fay Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I'm gathering as much information drawings pictures etc for a possible scratch build semi kit of a USATC S160. If any one has any info they can share I would very much appreciate it. OzzyO will be the builder and Pete Harvey is working with us to see what parts can be etched. I have come across one that has been scratch built before so it proves it can be done. I'm interested to no if there's any off the peg items like wagon bogies from US suppliers that could be used on the tender. Any info is all welcome Thanks Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I remember an article in an old copy of "Model Railways". It was April 1977, by Dennis Allenden, but concerned modification of a proprietary HO 2-8-0 into an S160*. Unfortunately the only scale drawing was a dimensioned comparison between the two locomotives. It does refer to a Skinley print scale drawing (no. 451, if that means anything these days), which (as with that genre) was "mostly accurate". Standard references are Tourrett's "Allied Military Locomotives of the Second World War" and the monograph "Over Here: Story of the USATC S160". I'm pretty sure I've seen drawings somewhere, if I can remember where... *Let's not get into pedantry about the use of the classification "S160", we know what we mean even if it may always be the correct term! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 If you want to include this particular prototype, you'll need to source a 7mm scale lady driver. PKP Tr203-499 shunting at Pyskowice, August 1976. Crewed single-handedly by a woman! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hello EddieB, IIRC this is about the first rear view of the tender, looks to have a number of Mod's. from when first built! OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiptonian Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 There is a basic drawing (with dimensions) and one photo in J.H.Russell's "A Pictorial Record of Great Western Absorbed Engines". Good Luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Is there any reason for keeping two threads on this subject, and would they not be better merged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted April 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 26, 2013 If you want to include this particular prototype, you'll need to source a 7mm scale lady driver. PKP Tr203-499 shunting at Pyskowice, August 1976. Crewed single-handedly by a woman! http://www.forty-third.co.uk/images/of039.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 http://www.forty-third.co.uk/images/of039.jpg I hate to disappoint you, Ian, but the reality didn't match the fantasy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hello EddieB, IIRC this is about the first rear view of the tender, looks to have a number of Mod's. from when first built! OzzyO. You'll probably find it something of a minefield, given the wide sphere of operation. Some examples in Hungary had extended chimneys and modified cabs/fireboxes, for example (sorry, only preserved/stored examples, but covering one from each builder). 411,118 as preserved at Fusti Railway Park, Budapest (2002) BLW 70497/1944.USATC 3540 411,264 stored at Hatvan (2004) Lima 8434/1943.USATC 2781 411,358 preserved at Hegyeshalom (1999) Alco 70444/1942 USATC 1613 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Is there any reason for keeping two threads on this subject, and would they not be better merged? Steve got a bit over-enthusiastic. Anyhow I've sent all my S160 drawings - including the Skinley one - to Pete Harvey, at Steve's request. Hope they'll be of use, and maybe it might be possible to do some etches in 4mm as well as 7mm scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 Pete got the drawings today, many thanks they will be a big help. I posted two threads because of the prototype. I thought there may be visitors who where more likely to only visit the US part of the forum and would have valuable info who would have missed it on the modelling Qs area. I've no objection to both threads being merged all though I'm not sure where the best place is. I will be modelling the loco in British condition when in use in the UK, But please keep posting pictures of them where ever they may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 There is one parked behind Deviation Shed at Grosmont and has been for years. I do just about recall it running. Anyone going up there should be able to phot it for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Hello EddieB, IIRC this is about the first rear view of the tender, looks to have a number of Mod's. from when first built! OzzyO. Ok, here's another PKP locomotive rear view. This is Tr203-36 acting as a station pilot at Torun, also taken in August 1976. Unlike the locomotive at Pyskowice there has been no enlargement of the coal bunker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Those headlamps are massive. If anyone stumbles across works drawings for the driving wheels, it might be an idea to suggest to Alan Gibson Workshop that a gap in their wheels list needs filling!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 Same for slaters in 7mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Some more examples, sadly after a long time out of service. In Greece, the State Railways (SEK) received 27 USATC 2-8-0 locomotives after the War (1947). They were classified theta-gamma (ϴγ) and allocated running numbers 521-537 and 551-560. The class was strengthened by a further 25 locomotives acquired second-hand from the Italian State Railways (FS) in 1955. These were FS class 736 and were allocated numbers in the 571-595 range. ϴγ 532, stored at Thessaloniki, November 2001. BLW 70481/1944, USATC 3524. ϴγ 576, stored at Acharne (Athens), April 2002. Alcom 71554/1944, USATC 3299, FS 736.090. Edit: Apologies, the Greek characters are visible while editing, but appear as question marks when the post is submitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon A Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I believe the Chedleton based S160 was running at the West Somerset's gala earlier this year. Gordon A Bristol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted April 29, 2013 Author Share Posted April 29, 2013 #9131 "O" AAR 50-ton Bettendorf, fully sprung and equalized, 5'-6" wheel base, 33" wheels, pair. Assembled brass. Price: $53.75 Pkg: Pr. Just found this on tinternet. Might be of use, Precision models catalogue from the USofA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 That looks pretty damn close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 2, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2013 There is one parked behind Deviation Shed at Grosmont and has been for years. I do just about recall it running. Anyone going up there should be able to phot it for you. This one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 That's the one, if any one lives close to the NYMR the east lancs or The Churnet valley and can get close up pictures please post them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Let me dig mine out.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Let me dig mine out.... What have you got one buried in your garden? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naugytrax Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Detail shots of the Yorkshire one when it was running. (In 1976?) Sorry about the poor photo quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Thanks, great shots. Really need to get and see a loco in the flesh, I still haven't actually seen one except in print or on the screen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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