JeffP's photos, early 70's and 80's.

[JeffP]

Posting a bit earlier tonight, since I left it late last night and then got sidetracked, sorry. We're all over the place again tonight, but mostly north midlands.

 

Crewe diesel depot...this was usually as close as we could get. 01/09/75.

The class 50 is 50035, then moving right,we have 47437, then 24050.

 

Class 86, 86247 arrives at Crewe with a northbound passenger train, 01/09/75.

 

Standard class 4 tank 80135 under renovation at the NYMR, September 1975.

 

Another dismal Sunday at Westhouses find class 47/3, 47343 standing at the front of the shed. 16/11/75. It always seemed to rain when I went to Westhouses.

 

View of Westhouses depot, 16/11/75. The depot was host to quite a few class 20's, one 08 and 47343 (above).

 

Toton depot, and another "one that got away". The doyen of the peaks, class 44, 44001, "Scafell Pike" stands at Toton, 16/11/75.

 

Healey Mills depot,  from the entrance footbridge. The depot was host to classes 08, 37, 40 and 45. The class 45 is 45061.

 

Class 55 "Deltic", 55002, "The King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry" at York, 9/11/75.

 

York again, class 47's awaiting their next duties, from left to right, 47317, 47412, 47457 and 47035. 9/11/75.

 

Inside the roundhouse at Staveley Barrow Hill, class 08, 08267 keeps company with classes 08, 20 and 47. 16/11/75.

 

Looking across the front of Doncaster depot, from left to right, 20065, 08114 and 31131. 26/10/75.

 

Knottingley depot from the embankment, , the depot contained mainly class 47/3's.

 

Another dull day at Holbeck, from left to right, 45122, 47435, 47376, 08066, and 47523. 9/11/75

 

Goole docks stabling point, comparison of class 37 front-ends, with 37031 on the left and 37251 on the right. 26/10/75

 

Doncaster works, class 31/0, 31002 appears to be ready to get back to work. 26/10/75.

 

Doncaster works, class 03, newly repainted, 03078 is at the rear of the test-house.

[Fat Controller]

Are those orange wagons in the shot of Healey Mills the petroluem coke ones that worked to Anglesey Aluminium?

[eastwestdivide]

Are those orange wagons in the shot of Healey Mills the petroluem coke ones that worked to Anglesey Aluminium?

Those hoppers were black (or a very dark dirty colour) when I saw them, but that was quite a few years later than the photo. Can't think what was that orangy colour.

Edit: (much later) - how about these: orange covhops for urea, later converted for Cleveland Potash, built at Procor in 1975, which might just fit the timeframe of the photo, as Procor's works were just around the corner from Healey Mills. 

Edited February 14, 2014 by eastwestdivide

[brushman47544]

I agree about getting no further at Crewe Diesel - except on one occasion in the mid 80s. A friend and I managed to walk down the approach road without being stopped and went straight to the Foreman's office inside the shed. He asked if we'd gone straight to him and he obviously believed us when we said yes and let us go round. But a couple of other lads that tagged along were quickly spotted and sent packing! I wonder where my photos are...

[hmrspaul]

Those hoppers were black (or a very dark dirty colour) when I saw them, but that was quite a few years later than the photo. Can't think what was that orangy colour.

Edit: (much later) - how about these: orange covhops for urea, later converted for Cleveland Potash, built at Procor in 1975, which might just fit the timeframe of the photo, as Procor's works were just around the corner from Healey Mills. 

I agree, very interesting  photo I hadn't realised so many were in the orange originally. There is a lovely photo of them in

Rails along the Derwent The story of the Derwent Valley Light Railway by Jonathan D. Stockwell and Ian Drummond Holne Publishing, PO Box 343, Leeds, LS19 9FW   ISBN 978-0-9563317-6-2

 

This photo http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/procorcovhop/e1c4d1929 (and the next) has a red patch. This had DVR on it in large lettering as they were hired to the Derwent Valley Railway. I should have added, this was for Grain traffic to Scotland; the use for Urea came later.

 

Paul Bartlett

Edited February 14, 2014 by hmrspaul

[JeffP]

I was going to mention Procor being close to HM.

[JeffP]

West and east again tonight.

 

Plymouth, and class 46, 46011 waits for the road east as does class 52, 1022, "Western Sentinel", 11/10/75.

 

Between Plymouth and Exeter behind class 46, 46011.

 

Post #266. the second image taken from a Plymouth - Exeter Train; this looks like it is the descent from Dainton Summit (Tunnel).  In which case, the signal is Stoneycombe Up distant.  This box was often switched out, with all the signals pulled off.  The box controlled the access to the quarry sidings, so was only open when required.

Thanks to PD&SWJR.

 

Laira depot, class 52, 1021, "Western Cavalier" faces class 50, 50049. 11/10/75

 

Scrap-line at Laira, nearest the camera, class 03, 03128 is still in green livery with the BR totem, 11/10/75.

 

Overall view of laira, with the scrap line prominent, 11/10/75.

 

Laira depot, class 03, 03134 is also still in green livery, in the background is class 52, 1001, "Western Pathfinder".

 

Hull Botanic gardens depot, class 20 pair, 20200 and 20020 frame class 03, 03112. September 1975.

 

Stabled locos at Botanic Gardens depot, class 03, 03169 is nearest the camera. September 1975.

 

Frodingham depot from the SE, classes 25, 37, 31 and 45 are present. September 1975.

On Sundays the depot was regularly host to between 20 to 30 locos, with as many as nine classes as common visitors, (08, 20, 24, 25, 31, 37, 45, 46, 47).

Edited February 15, 2014 by JeffP

[Ray M]

Ref : Post 259 ,pic of Holbeck.

i`m sure Honourable Artillery Company still had split headcode box

in 1975.

[JeffP]

Ref : Post 259 ,pic of Holbeck.

i`m sure Honourable Artillery Company still had split headcode box

in 1975.

You could be right...I'm going from my notes in my album, which came from those written on that day. I'm not 100% certain.

 

Edited to say: found a pic of it at Stratford that is supposed to be 1975 with the nose rebuilt. VERY tiny pic though.........

Edited February 15, 2014 by JeffP

[eastwestdivide]

 

Scrap-line at Laira, nearest the camera, class 03, 03128 is still in green livery with the BR totem, 11/10/75.

Like the 13T open wagon as a match wagon - you can even read:

TDW 130299

204-SHUNTER MATCH WAGON

LAIRA DIESEL DEPOT

 

which makes an unusual change from the conflats seen elsewhere with 03s. 204 presumably being shorthand for 204hp shunter.

Edited February 15, 2014 by eastwestdivide

[Rivercider]

More interesting photos, the depot shots show lots of little details that could be used to enhance TMD layouts.

 

I was intrigued by the Botanic Gardens shot including 03169 and the 'Loco sand van'.

Was it common to use an old van to store (bags?) of loco sand?

I have a couple of pictures of Pantyffynnon with a van in the yard complete with its own access steps

and the question has been raised as to what it was used for, maybe loco sand?

 

cheers

[JeffP]

Might have been a mess van? I went a couple of times and the place seemed to have very little in the way of facilities.

 

Tonight we are going on  a few more shed visits.

 

Hither Green, with classes 73, 73111, three class 33's and 09006, on a dull afternoon, December1975.

 

Stratford Depot, with the usual mix of GE lines classes. 28/12/75

 

Stratford again, with class 31's, from left to right, 31154, 31016 and 31205. through the doorway can just be made out 08863. 28/12/75

 

Line up of shunters at Stratford, 28/12/75, class 08's,  from right to left, 08239/232/233/231/519/554/417.

 

Cricklewood depot, 28/12/75,

 

Inside the shed at Cricklewood, ....and yes, that IS a mustard coloured elephant cord jacket on my mate........

 

Old Oak Common depot, the two class 47's on the left are 47499 and 47089 "Amazon". 28/12/75.

 

Finsbury Park fuelling point, class 31/4, 31405, 28/12/75

 

View of Finsbury Park depot, 28/12/75.

 

Inside finsbury Park, and class 55 "Deltic" 55015, "Tulyar" is receiving attention. 28/12/75.

 

Doncaster depot, the two Deltics are probably waiting to go onto the works the next morning. This was a Sunday afternoon.

 

Nameplate of class 45, 45046, "Royal Fusilier" at Frodingham, 17/1/76.

Edited February 15, 2014 by JeffP

[dvdlcs]

Interesting picture of 20 200 in post #266. Not many images of that loco around - seem to recall it was an early casualty.

[JeffP]

I liked the two stabled end to end, with 20200 and 20020 together...but having taught maths for some years, (when they would let me...my real subject was physics), I love numbers.

[Brough Ranger]

More interesting photos, the depot shots show lots of little details that could be used to enhance TMD layouts.

 

I was intrigued by the Botanic Gardens shot including 03169 and the 'Loco sand van'.

Was it common to use an old van to store (bags?) of loco sand?

I have a couple of pictures of Pantyffynnon with a van in the yard complete with its own access steps

and the question has been raised as to what it was used for, maybe loco sand?

 

cheers

 

That Sand Van was in the yard through the 80s.  It was often the casualty of some overly zealous shunting, as I remember seeing it at 45 degrees to the horizontal, sat on the buffer stops a few times.  I presume it was cut up on site when the yard was cleared for sell off.  Never saw it move from that spot, and the proximity to the loco stabling roads would support its use as a store for the loco sand.

 

There were a few instances of enthusiastic shunting at BG: every now and then something in the sidings which were the old Hornsea/Withernsea lines would get pushed across the crossing over Spring Bank towards the old Botanic Gardens Station.  Trouble was, the lines had been lifted a decade before.  Headline stuff in the Hull Daily Mail!

[JeffP]

Some more varied locations tonight. I rarely took more than a couple of photos at each location.The problem was usually money..and sometimes just poor photography. In those days, you took what pics you could afford, and in poor light, around 25-50% wouldn't be worth keeping. No deleting and re-using the memory card in those days.

 

Southern approaches to Doncaster station, from a favourite spotters position of the 50's and 60's. St James' Bridge, or Jimmy's Bridge" as it was known to us as lads. There used to be a pair of platforms down to the left that handled the many extra trains that were laid on for the St. Leger meetings, sadly no longer used and now gone.

HST 254022 makes it's way in off the main lines. The rear power car isn't smoking, there was a wood-fire there that a track gang were burning.

Note also the signal lying horizontally, on the left next to the train.

 

Doncaster works looking towards the painshops, class 31, class 55, 55009, "Alycidon" and class 56, 56071 are shown.

 

Doncaster works, and class 03, 03086 is minus it's rods and awaiting repair.

 

One of the saddest shots I have: my favourite Deltic, 55020, "Nimbus" at Doncaster works, around 1982.

 

Nameplate of class 55, 55012, "Crepello", Doncaster works.

 

Locos outside the test-house, Doncaster works.

 

I think this is at Northwich, class 40, 40023.

 

Class 24's at Northwich, with 24023 nearest the camera. I'm reliably informed this is at Chester.

 

Two more shots of King class loco, 6000, "King George V" at Chester.

Edited February 18, 2014 by JeffP

[brian daniels]

The 24's are at Chester Jeff if memory serves me right.

[JeffP]

Thanks Brian, post duly amended. I kept looking at the pic and trying to reconcile it with Northwich, but only ever went to Chester once.

[JeffP]

Missed last night due to being away from home. Tonight we are again in a few varied locations.

 

Class 47, 47068 with a westbound express at Reading.

 

Class 47 in Sonning cutting, west-bound. I'm not certain, but judging by the long nameplate, I think it's 47079, "George Jackson Churchward". The photo dates from circa 1978.

 

Another class 47, this time unknown, in Sonning cutting, this time London-bound.

 

 

The two labelled Sonning Cutting aren't in Sonning Cutting but are to the west of Reading in the Purley area - the train passing under the arch bridge (recently rebuilt) is on the Down Relief and the other one is on the Up Relief.

Thanks Stationmaster

 

Class 55 "Deltic" 55022, "Royal Scots Grey" is at the head of a northbound train at Doncaster, circa 1978.

 

HST power car northbound at Doncaster.

 

Unidentified class 40 approaching Doncaster from the south, with a mixed freight.

 

Poor shot of a north bound mgr service at Doncaster, class 56 powered, but the loco appears to be carrying no number?

 

Class 55 Deltic 55008, "The Green Howards" enters Doncaster from the north, photographed from the roof of the multi-storey carpark.

 

Seen at the rear of Doncaster works, class 03's, 03168 and 03370, are awaiting repair. Note the two different chimney types.

 

Judging by the crowds crossing the footbridge to the works, this must have been an open day. HST power  car 254002 of the first set is holding the attention of the platform spotters. Circa 1978.

 

two views of HST power car 254020 on arrival at York. My very young blonde wife can just be seen in red top, pink skirt on the platform, patiently awaiting me finishing my photography. I seem to think this was my first ever ride on an HST, Doncaster to York return, just for the haulage...my overriding memory was the weird smell of the brakes.

 

I love this photo, but I had this knack of using up my shots on the film, then finding one decent shot, and spoiling it by ripping the negatives trying to force the camera  to take it!

Here is a shot of Kings Lynn depot, with a couple of 03's, and interesting van and a TTA/B fuel tank present.

Edited February 19, 2014 by JeffP

[Commoner]

Nice HST shots.  Any WR sets from the 1970s Jeff?

[keefer]

The interesting van at king's Lynn looks like a steam heat boiler van - for preheating coaching stock

[The Stationmaster]

The two labelled Sonning Cutting aren't in Sonning Cutting but are to the west of Reading in the Purley area - the train passing under the arch bridge (recently rebuilt) is on the Down Relief and the other one is on the Up Relief.

[brushman47544]

Nice HST shots.  Any WR sets from the 1970s Jeff?

 

Agreed. What I had forgotten until looking at those photos is that some ECML sets were allocated to Craigentinny - the leading PC looks like SC43094.

[Fat Controller]

The interesting van at king's Lynn looks like a steam heat boiler van - for preheating coaching stock

Not originally a van either, I suspect; I think it's one of the ones built on a SR 21t loco-coal wagon underframe, judging by the brake-lever. Other such wagons used ex-GWR horsebox underframes, I believe. The paint's a funny shade, which I've seen elsewhere on Departmental vans; I presume it started off as Olive Green. Looks more like Kalamata purple now..

[Mark P]

Great thread with lovely photographs, thanks Jeff.

We discussed the King's Lynn / Cambridge steam heat boiler vans in this thread, for those who are interested.

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/53879-steam-heating-van-1980s/

 

Mark