JeffP's photos, early 70's and 80's.

[JeffP]

Apart from the first photo, we are still in the east midlands, with Toton once again featuring heavily. It used to have such a varied display of traction.....

 

 

47584, "County of Suffolk", but I'm unsure as to where the photo is taken. Any help gratefully received.

I am now reliably informed that this is the down platform at March.

 

I think this is at he Shirebrook open day, class 20, 20030, in green named unofficially, "River Rother".

 

Line up of front ends at the open day.

 

31327, "Philips Imperial" at the open day.

 

NOT an open day, although I did have permission. Class 08, 08857 and an all blue class 56 inside the roundhouse at Staveley Barrow Hill, before it became a museum.

 

Class 58's inside the roundhouse.

 

General view across the roundhouse.

It used to be a great shed with atmosphere and dead easy to get round, the foremen were all enthusiasts...except for one occasion when we were refused after some kids had been caught sniffing the fire extinguishers! Transport Police had had to be involved and one was hospitalised. As ever, the few spoil it for the many.

 

Head to head: 58029 and nameplate of 58042

 

And here is 58042 at Toton.

 

Inside the shed at Toton, 58008 is in front of the Research department's ex-class 31, class 97, 97203.

 

A better view of 97203.

 

Outside in the yard stands class 37, 37505, "British Steel Workington".

 

Variety of traction on view at Toton. Six locos visible of four different classes.

 

The doyen of them all, ex D1500, now class 47/4, 47401, "North Eastern", was parked at the rear of the shed, awaiting preservation?

Edited January 16, 2014 by JeffP

[Mallard60022]

I too really like BH. I called in there once and the place had just been 'bulled up' for an open day. The Foreman was so proud he took me on a tour! Sadly I think the shed was closed not that long afterwards. Shirebrook was the most 'friendly' shed, a bit like Frodingham.

Toton was the 'Stratford' of the north IMO. I can remember when you could drive down the long approach road and either just sit in the car and watch the action, or go and have a shufty (mainly weekends when things were almost shut down).

Coming up from darn sarf to an 'East Midlands' shed bash was always loads of fun (except during the mining dispute of 84/5 when we often got accused of being scabs or 'Coppers' and the coach got stoned; (that is the charabanc got stones thrown at it.........) and the excitement on approaching Tinsley, Toton, Shirebrook, BH, Healey Mills and Donny Works was memorable; even Westhouses was good. After a couple of years of these visits I had target loco's left to 'cop' so if it was cold I would only get out of the coach if one or more of 'my locos' was on shed!

North east tours were similar but without the concentration of sheds. Scotland was as good because of the rarity value but the travel was hard (usually a weekender).

I suppose South Wales was quite good too, especially Canton and Ebbw Junction.

I can remember blokes on these trips that used to try to 'clear' every loco in service each year; bonkers!

P

Edited January 16, 2014 by Mallard60022

[jonny777]

That is a very interesting photo of 47401. Do you have a date for it? According to the class 47 website it had its plates removed on re-allocation to Immingham, but in the photos I have seen of it there, the D1500 was behind the cab door on the opposite end to 47401.

[JeffP]

Mallard: I know what you mean about trips. I only did one full trip, a Dalescroft Railfans Saturation Tour...more of that anon.

 

jonny777: I THINK mid 1987, because it's in amongst the photos taken at Shirebrook open day...at least I THINK it's Shirebrook, I have no memory of ever going to an open day ay Toton, which is the other possibility.

[Vin]

Hi Jeff,

 

I think it was mid 1987 for the photo of 47401. Still with its 'North Eastern' nameplates it was still a pennine engine.

Barrow hill was always a good depot with friendly staff. A couple of quid in the charity box meant a good wander around on a Sunday afternoon. My abiding memory of the round house is the smell of hot oil and the 'tick tick' of the loco 'spitters' ejecting water from the air brake system.

 

Cheers for the memories.

 

Vin

[LNERGE]

Apart from the first photo, we are still in the east midlands, with Toton once again featuring heavily. It used to have such a varied display of traction.....

 

 

Diesels 70's and 80's383.jpg

47584, "County of Suffolk", but I'm unsure as to where the photo is taken. Any help gratefully received.

Down platform, March.

[JeffP]

Down platform, March.

Thanks a lot, post amended.

 

Vin: Yep, as I thought, (see above).

Edited January 16, 2014 by JeffP

[Grimleygrid]

What can I say Jeff, whilst I have really been enjoying your photo collection it has suddenly gone up a gear. This afternoon I was planning to ask you if you had anymore photos taken at Toton only to find that there were some new additions! Many thanks indeed.

 

I have really been enjoying looking through your photos especially Grids on MGRs and 37s and 60s on the iron ores, but your Toton collection just takes the biscuit. Many thanks for posting them it is very much appreciated. Just how I plan to model my depot so they are very useful and interesting to look at.

 

How good do the 58s look in Original Railfreight livery?! It is interesting that you have some shots of 58050 in that livery as it didn't last very long like that.

 

Thanks again absolutely superb!

Edited January 16, 2014 by Grimleygrid

[Mallard60022]

Grimley I think you need to check a word.....  in the penultimate sentence. 

Anyhow, yes those bones look really superb in that livery. I was just thinking this p.m. that I sort of lost interest in bashing around about the time the bones were coming on stream. I never saw one in real action.

Jeff, did Dalescroft morph into The Inter City R.S.?

P

[jonny777]

My regret with 58s, is that I did not photo them initially because I thought they would be around for many years in that livery. So I concentrated on loco classes that were being withdrawn at the time.

 

Then, too late,   I discover the old railfreight livery was being changed to triple grey and I had missed my opportunity.

[Grimleygrid]

Grimley I think you need to check a word.....  in the penultimate sentence. 

 

Post duly amended.......I did laugh....sorry!

[JeffP]

LOL, I noticed that word...I didn't think the photos were THAT bad.......

 

Mallard: I think Dalescroft just faded away. I can find nothing about it on Google, even. Yet, at the time, it was massive, running at least one trip per week to anywhere and everywhere.

 

 

Class 45/0, 45034 at the front of Frodingham depot. The rubbish tip was a bit of an eyesore. In steam days, we used to find lamps and bullseye lenses out of lamps on there.

 

Class 47 with returning bogie steel carriers gets the right away from Althorpe station.

 

And is followed up the bank by a two-car dmu.

 

Class 31 heading west with a Cleethorpes-Liverpool service.

 

Her's 58050 again at Toton, it looks brand new.

 

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08757, but I'm not sure exactly where. Could be March again?

 

Nameplate of 58020 and cab of 58007.

 

And 58020 stabled with some of it's sister locos.

 

31248 passing March East Junction signal box.

 

 

 

 

[JeffP]

First off for this lunchtime, I've included a few black and white images I took at Woking. This would be around 1986 when I wrote an article for Railway Modeller about building and modifying a GEM J36 for P4 with scratchbuilt chassis. They could only accept B&W photos, so I had the film in the camera.

 

I've put all 5 in without captions, since I don't know what the units were and the locos are too far away to identify.

 

 

 

Back to colour again, and back in the east midlands.

 

Two class 37's, with 37283 nearest the camera, heading an mgr train past the remains of Shirebrook station.

 

View of Shirebrook depot across the fields. It was very similar in construction to Frodingham, but FH had three roads.

 

Class 25, class 45 and a snowplough at Toton. 25032 and I THINK 45074?

 

 

Laboratory coach passing Toton.

 

Four class 58's at Toton, with 31112 peeping between them.

 

56085 in large logo blue on mgr's, passing Toton.

 

Unidentified class 31 on a loaded mgr train passing Toton. Interesting vented van in the foreground.

 

47280, "Pedigree" passing Toton with loaded mgr hoppers.

 

Ratcliffe upon Soar with a southbound HST service to St Pancras passing.

Edited January 17, 2014 by JeffP

[Rivercider]

First off for this lunchtime, I've included a few black and white images I took at Woking. This would be around 1986 when I wrote an article for Railway Modeller about building and modifying a GEM J36 for P4 with scratchbuilt chassis. They could only accept B&W photos, so I had the film in the camera.

 

I've put all 5 in without captions, since I don't know what the units were and the locos are too far away to identify.

 

 

 

I am enjoying this trip back in time.

 

Regarding the b&w pictures I have had a look in my platform 5 book.

 

S76763 is part of class 421 4-CIG, set 7413 

7352 is another class 421 4-CIG

And 407 is a class 491 4-TC set, presumably on a Weymouth working.

 

cheers

[jonny777]

March is a distinct possibility for 08757. I know it was a Cambridge loco for a few years.

[Grimleygrid]

Loving all the Toton 58 action Jeff!

 

Like the six all in a line,

 

Thanks for sharing them.

[JeffP]

Is that HST not Southbound?  Ratcliffe is east of the railway and the train is on the up main?

Yes, I think you are right, I was thinking inner tracks fast, outer tracks slow, but it's not like that. post amended, thanks.

[JeffP]

Yes, I think you are right, I was thinking inner tracks fast, outer tracks slow, but it's not like that. post amended, thanks.

 

 

Having now finished scanning in all my negatives, I've changed round a bit tonight and gone back in time.

Toton is very nice, but I thought that, (apart from GG), you might be getting a little bored.

 

Class 55, 55016, "Gordon Highlander" pauses at Retford.

 

Class 47/0, 47066 heels over on the curves entering Retford hauling a dead class 31.

 

Class 55, 55011, "The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers entering Retford.

 

55016 about to leave.

 

Nameplate of 55011.

 

Cabside of 55011, it is carrying the York depot plaque, which makes it after the locos were transferred away from FP.

 

Class 03, 03063 undergoing a heavy general overhaul in the Crimpsall erecting shop, Doncaster Works.

 

Newly repainted cabside of 03158, Doncaster Works.

 

Deltic engines, Doncaster works. We though they'd go on for ever, but many lasted only 20 years, relatively short lives.

[JeffP]

Only four this lunchtime, as I have to get ready to go to football.

 

Here's something you don't see very often. During the early 90's, the last Cleethorpes-King's Cross service on a Sunday ran via Scunthorpe and Doncaster rather than via Lincoln. Here is one leaving Scunthorpe, photographed from what the locals call "Howden's Hill. (Actually the bridge taking the road over the railway line.)

 

And two shots of the Doncaster works open day taken looking along the boiler of LNER V2, 60800, "Green Arrow".

 

Newly repainted class 31 at Doncaster works open day.

 

 

[fishytrains]

Fantastic photos, especially the last few.

 

Mike

[Vin]

Hi all,

 

The last photos are of Doncaster works mini open day (2nd and 3rd May 1986). The class 50036 didn't have a power unit in it yet. In the background withdrawn 13003 can be seen. When I mean mini open day, most of the works complex was shut and locked up. So this was the main area that was accessible.

Yet more great photos Jeff.

 

Cheers

 

Vin

[JeffP]

I don't normally bother with open days, too staged, and generally too many folk about to get decent photos. I've been to a few, and some pics already on here, but in general, I avoid them.

 

This evening I've slipped in an extra set. I don't know if there will be so much interest in them, but they are another rarity: a brake-van tour of the then BSC Steelworks at Scunthorpe.

 

We start with three shots of the class 20 which brought the pair of brake vans to Scunthorpe station and took us onto the works.

 

There, the class 20 was detached, and this beast took over. At the time, the works only had a few of these, they are normally used to pull loaded torpedoes" containing molten iron, from the blast furnaces to the BOS steelmaking plant.

 

Some shots of the engine shed on the works, with mainly Yorkshire Engine Co. "Janus" locos in attendance, but one other Hunslet as well.

 

Yorkshire Engine Co. "Janus" loco, with bogie ingot carrer.

 

The "Four Queens". The bast furnaces at the Appleby-Frodingham iron works. They are named after English queens, the closest one to the camera being Queen Mary, one of the smaller ones.

Going away from the camera, iirc, the others are: Anny, Vicky, Bess, (In localese).

Since then, the two furthest from the camera have been almost doubled in size.

 

This tour is available evenings and weekends during the spring, summer and autumn, light nights. It is often now on board an old DMU with works motive power. It's free and well worth the visit on light nights.

However, no photography is now allowed on the works except in two restricted areas. See here for details and tours: http://www.afrps.co.uk/

 

 

 

[11B]

Nice photos Jeff, keep them coming.

 

What happened to the head code box on the nose end of 20163?

 

Kind regards

 

Ian

[JeffP]

Now I don't know the answer to that. Maybe it had an accident and got a new cab? More likely than a new (old type) nose.

[JeffP]

A few more round the east midlands. Toton was often visited, being only an hour and a quarter from my house by road.

 

 

Class 56's stabled on a Sunday at Shirebrook.

 

Front end comparison at Toton.

 

Class 20, 20108 in Railfreight livery.

 

58022 and what I THINK is 20218 at Toton. I am reliably informed that it will be 20215, not 20218.

 

Interesting privately owned shunter in a yard near Toton, the River Erewash can be seen in foreground. The Yard is near Stapleford and Sandiacre, and makes points and crossings.

 

Inside Toton...poor photo, neither one thing nor another, really.

 

Class 20, 20055 under reair at Toton, with class 45's surrounding it.

 

45140 at Toton.

 

Class 56 and 37's at Toton.

 

Class 45/0, 45060, "Sherwood Forester" at Toton. "Do not rob" is written across the door so it must already have been saved for preservation.

 

Class 45 carrying it's old number, 63, at Toton. It also carries 45044, and used to be named, "Royal Inniskilling Fusilier".

 

Two class 45's under repair, the nearest one is lifted off it's bogies.

 

Different motive power at Toton, with 45063 and 45116 identifiable.

 

Now I'm unsure where this is, but it's a rarity, you don't see many of these about. Wickham gangers' trolley with two different types of trailer. a trailer behind it and a hand trolley in front.

Edited January 23, 2014 by JeffP