TonyA Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It didn't Well, not that one This is the last survivor of a series of 5 panoramic trains, 2 electric ones and 3 diesel-hydraulic versions, ordered by DRG in the 1930's. One of the electrics didn't survive the war (dunno what happened to the diesels, but I assume they've got destroyed too) and this one survived in West-Germany. One diesel was destroyed in the war and the other two survived in DB use until 1960 (VT 90 500) and 1962 (VT 90 501). Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 11, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Those who are following this thread will be able to work out my itinerary while I was in Switzerland in 1988. Today's photos are from Küssnacht am Rigi, on the line from Immensee to Luzern which at the time was very busy, being used by many of the trains heading south from Luzern over the Gotthard as well as the Südostbahn trains to Rapperswil and beyond. Some of the photos may be useful to modellers. Küssnacht am Rigi Re44i 10009 Airolo to Luzern 14th Aug 88 C11035 Küssnacht am Rigi view east 14th Aug 88 C11036 Küssnacht am Rigi goods shed 14th Aug 88 C11039 Küssnacht am Rigi station building 14th Aug 88 C11043 Küssnacht am Rigi approach road and Baer Camembaer loading facility14th Aug 88 C11044 Küssnacht am Rigi 14th Aug 88 C11046 David Edited September 11, 2015 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 12, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Some more from Küssnacht am Rigi today. Küssnacht am Rigi Re6/6 11620 Basel to Chiasso 14th Aug 88 C11048 Küssnacht am Rigi Re6/6 11674 Lugano to Basel 14th Aug 88 C11051 Küssnacht am Rigi BT ABt 141 and Re4/4 96 Romanshorn to Luzern 14th Aug 88 C11052 Küssnacht am Rigi BT Buffet car 14th Aug 88 C11053 Küssnacht am Rigi BT Re4/4 86 Romanshorn to Luzern additional coach at rear 14th Aug 88 C11054 Küssnacht am Rigi goods shed 14th Aug 88 C11055 David Edited September 12, 2015 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 13, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Still in Switzerland in 1988, this time at Immensee. Immensee, to the north west of Arth Goldau is the junction where the line to Luzern via Küssnacht am Rigi leaves the line to Rotkreuz. Immensee 14th Aug 88 C11056 Immensee overhead switchgear 14th Aug 88 C11058 Immensee Re4/4i 10010 Airolo to Luzern 14th Aug 88 C11062 Immensee Re6/6 11669 EC Tiziano Milano to Hamburg 14th Aug 88 C11064 ImmenseeBT Re4/4 96 Luzern to Romanshorn 14th Aug 88 C11066 Immensee Re6/6 11606 Wilhelm Tell Express Lugano to Luzern 14th Aug 88 C11070 Edited to removed a superfluous "and" David Edited September 13, 2015 by DaveF 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 14, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2015 Back to Assmannshausen by the Rhine in Germany with photos taken in 1990 and 1991. Assmannshausen 140 005 northbound freight 2nd Aug 90 C14668 Assmannshausen 140 130 Wiesbaden to Koblenz 2nd Aug 90 C14672 Assmannshausen 140 666 southbound freight 2nd Aug 90 C14680 Assmannshausen 19th Aug 91 C16516 Assmannshausen 141 145 Koblenz to Wiesbaden 20th Aug 91 C16531 David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) A few photos taken at Zug today, on the line from Zürich to Luzern and the Gotthard. Zug is the junction where these lines diverge, the one to the Gotthard heading first to Arth Goldau. Zug RBe4/4 1460 ecs 14th Aug 88 C11086 Zug Bt Pendelzug push pull Zürich to Luzern 14th Aug 88 C11090 Zug left Re4/4ii 11220 pendelzug Zürich to Luzern r Re4/4ii 11227 pendelzug Luzern to Zürich 14th Aug 88 C11093 Zug Re4/4ii 11227 pendelzug Luzern to Zürich 14th Aug 88 C11095 Zug RAeTEE 1054 Zürich to Milano 14th Aug 88 C11101 Zug Re6/6s11681 and 11682 EC Barbarossa Stuttgart to Milano 14th Aug 88 C11111 David Edited September 15, 2015 by DaveF 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2015 Göschenen and Andermatt today on the (then) Furka Oberalp Bahn (previously the Schöllenen Bahn). Göschenen FO Deh44 51 15th August 88 C11139 Göschenen view south of FO from station 15th August 88 C11141 Göschenen entrance to Schöllenen Bahn tunnel from train15th August 88 C11143 Andermatt FO station15th Aug 88 C11145 Andermatt FO Deh44ii 95 Disentis to Andermatt 15th Aug 88 C11148 Andermatt FO Deh44ii 95 Disentis to Andermatt 15th Aug 88 C11149 David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 16, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2015 Approaching Andermatt from the Disentis direction - a view from the train 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 16, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 16, 2015 Approaching Andermatt from the Disentis direction - a view from the train DSCF0058.jpg I remember standing in Andermatt watching a train quite obviously climbing a steep hill. It looked most impressive going back and forth around the loops. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2015 Mind that the (green) doors of the workshop have now been repainted in red, as proven by StreetView images from last year And a lot of work going on last October: https://goo.gl/maps/SHocJ Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 17, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 17, 2015 Some photos from a journey along the FO from Andermatt towards Disentis today. The first one is a bit like Mike's view from yesterday above Andermatt, but mine was higher up the incline. It also shows how much better modern cameras are than slide film with it's grain. As the train approached the top of the pass at Oberalppasshöhe the weather closed in, as so often happens. At least this time it didn't snow - once I arrived there in August to be greeted by a heavy snow storm and a crowded cafe full of people in summer clothes trying to get warm. Andermatt from the train 15th Aug 88 C11156 above Andermatt FO Deh4/4 train to Disentis 15th Aug 88 C11158 Oberalppasshöhe FO Deh4/4ii pushing Disentis to Andermatt 15th Aug 88 C11162 Tschamut FO Deh4/4 to Disentis 15th Aug 88 C11164 Tschamut FO Geh4/4 103 Glacier Express St Moritz to Zermatt 15th Aug 88 C 11165 David 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) Looks like a recent rock fall in several pics! Thanks! Pete. Edited September 17, 2015 by trisonic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2015 Some photos from a journey along the FO from Andermatt towards Disentis today. The first one is a bit like Mike's view from yesterday above Andermatt, but mine was higher up the incline. It also shows how much better modern cameras are than slide film with it's grain. David Looks like those workshop doors have changed colour again! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2015 Out Furka Oberalp train from Andermatt has now arrived at Disentis, the end on junction with the RhB. There is plenty time to take photos before catching a RhB stopping train to Chur. Disentis FO HGe4/4 33 15th Aug 88 C11170 Disentis RhB Ge4/4i 607 Disentis to Chur 15th Aug 88 C11175 Disentis RhB Ge4/4ii 614 Disentis to Chur 15th Aug 88 C11178 Disentis RhB Ge4/4i 607 and FO Deh 55 15th Aug 88 C11180 Disentis RhB Tm2/2 61 15th Aug 88 C11181 David 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't "like" every set you post Dave but take as read that they are! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 Just for a change today we'll have a German miscellany. Wernigerode DR Standard gauge 112 749 7 27th July 91C16031 Wernigerode is in the former East Germany Wernigerode DR 132 706 27th July 91 C16034 And one of the same loco taken by Dad. Wernigerode DR standard gauge 132 706 3 27th July 91J12127 Nideggen DB 212 035 1st Aug 90 C14640 In the Eifel Scherzingen 141 221 pass Freiburg to Basel 18th Aug 91 C16504 David 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Back to Switzerland in 1988 today. We leave Disentis on a RhB train bound for Chur, taking photos from the train along the route down into the Rhine Gorge. There are few roads around here, I've driven on a number of them and some are "interesting". If you look on Google Earth and find Bonaduz you can head west along the Versammerstrasse. Parts of it are two cars wide. In many places there are some long drops to the valley below with only a crash barrier in the way. There are some very good views of the railway a long way down in the valley, but I don't think I'd do the drive again. You can also see the village of Versam with the long road down into the valley to Versam station (actually Versam Safien). I'm sure that when I last drove to the station much of the road was still gravel, now it can be seen to be tarmaced. In places it was very rough, on leaving I found I could no longer engage reverse gear. When I got to a garage in Chur it was found that a small plastic clip had come loose while travelling over the rough surface and had partly jammed the gear linkage. Sumvitg Cumpadials RhB 15th Aug 88 C11183 Ilanz RhB Ge44ii 618 Chur to Disentis 15th Aug 88 C11186 Valendas Sagogn 15th Aug 88 C11188 Valendas Sagogn Rhine Gorge from train 15th Aug 88 C11190 Versam Safien RhB Xm22 991511191 Trin RhB Ge44ii 631 Glacier Expresss St Moritz to Zermatt 15th Ag 88 C11193 David Edited September 20, 2015 by DaveF 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 20, 2015 Those station buildings look like they came straight out of the Faller catalogue! Nice photos as always Dave. Cheers Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 21, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2015 Its always worth getting off the train at Reichenau Tamins on the way to Chur on the RhB. Reichenau Tamins C312 pw train 15th Aug 88 C11195 Reichenau Tamins RhB Ge6/6 704 St Moritz to Chur 15th Aug 88 C11196 Reichenau Tamins RhB Ge4/4ii Schnellzug Chur to St Moritz 15th Aug 88 C11199 Reichenau Tamins RhB Ge4/4ii 633 eastbound freight 15th Aug 88 C11206 Reichenau Tamins RhB Ge4/4i 607 Disentis to Chur 15th Aug 88 C11207 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2015 This is all that is left of the line. AFAIK it was abandonded not long after the tunnel cut-off line was built, avoiding the flat crossings. Sternmattstrasse level crossing: https://goo.gl/maps/9WoMq Eichwaldstrasse crossing: https://goo.gl/maps/ixAyG Curious how the O/H was left in situ! Keith I am guilty of posting mis-information again! (A few weeks back whilst Dave was around Luzern) Although when the new double track tunnel was built all the track on the original route which had been dual gauge was removed a second rail was put on the western most track of the new route. Here's where the old and new routes diverge: https://goo.gl/maps/PLQppxMFJek And further south toward Horw where the metre and standard gauge split: https://goo.gl/maps/vRqFYf13Bex Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2015 I am guilty of posting mis-information again! (A few weeks back whilst Dave was around Luzern) Although when the new double track tunnel was built all the track on the original route which had been dual gauge was removed a second rail was put on the western most track of the new route. Here's where the old and new routes diverge: https://goo.gl/maps/PLQppxMFJek And further south toward Horw where the metre and standard gauge split: https://goo.gl/maps/vRqFYf13Bex Keith Keith, Thanks very much, I'd wondered how it looks now. I never thought to look on Google Earth. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2015 After spending some time at Reichenau Tamins I caught a local train to Chur where I once again stopped for a while to take photos, starting with some RhB shots. Chur RhB ABe4/4 487 in Arosa line sidings 15th Aug 88 C11213 Chur RhB Ge3/3 215 15th Aug 88 C11217 Chur RhB Ge6/6 701 Chur to St Moritz 15th Aug 88 C11222 Chur RhB Be4/4 512 Chur to Thusis 15th Aug 88 C11225 Chur RhB Ge6/6 706 Disentis to Chur 15th Aug 88 C11228 David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 22, 2015 On Google Earth you can ride the train as well as along the roadway on part of the route out of Chur. It looks like they stuck the camera on a wagon and pushed or pulled it with loco 615. The lights suggest pushing. https://goo.gl/maps/oi8BdsNC83G2 Keith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 .. I suspect we'll see the Aleggra take over on the Arosa line, ... Allegras already using it when I visited in 2012: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/405-rhb-rhatia-hom/?p=772937 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2015 Some photos from Kerzers today. Kerzers is where the SBB line from Lyss to Payerne crosses the BN line from Bern to Neuchatel. Kerzers 16th Aug 88 C11251 Kerzers 16th Aug 88 C11253 Kerzers 16th Aug 88 C11259 Kerzers GBS RBDe 735 Bern to Le Locle 16th Aug 88 C11263 Kerzers SBB Lyss to Palezeux 16th Aug 88 C11269 Kerzers left BLS Re4/4 to Neuchatel right SBB RBe4/4 1405 Neuchatel to Bern 16th Aug 88 C11280 Taken just before a thunderstorm. David 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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