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Back in Switzerland again this evening, at Arth Goldau station in the summer of 1988.  At that time there was a hotel (Hotel Terminus Steiner) just down the road from the station, the rooms had good views of the trains.

 

 

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Arth Goldau Ae6/6 11420 Appenzell AR light engine 5th Aug 88 C10193

 

 

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Arth Goldau Ae6/6 11481 La Chaux de Fonds northbound goods 5th Aug 88 C10222

 

 

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Arth Goldau Ee3/3 16409 28th July 88 C9631

 

 

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Arth Goldau RBe4/4 Regionalzug Arth Goldau to Luzern 28th July 88 C9629

Taken from my hotel room.

 

 

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Arth Goldau station building 28th July 88 C9630

 

 

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Hi, Dave. Great to see more of Arth Goldau. The first photo', C10193, is an excellent portrait of loco' Ae 6/6 11420 Appenzell AR. Then in C9630, there is an excellent view of the imposing station buildings.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

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Visits to a couple more Swiss Private Railways this evening.

 

The first one is a train on the Martigny Orsieres railway . This line owes its existence to the British Aluminium Company who built a line to their factory in Orsieres, in the south west of Switzerland. It opened in 1910.  There is also a branch from Sembrancher to Le Chable, opened in 1953.  It is standard gauge, nowadays electrified at 15KV AC.

 

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Bouvernier MO ABDe4/4 & Bt Orsieres to Martigny 9th Aug 78 J6283

 

 

This evenings other line is the Nyon St Cergue Morez.  This metre gauge line was opened from Nyon to St Cergue in 1916 and La Cure in 1917, finally reaching Morez in 1921.  It is unusual as it was an international line until 1958, as Morez is in France, the rest of the line is in Switzerland.  The line across the border was closed in 1958, it now terminates at the frontier in La Cure.

At the time iof my visit the line was still operated using very old railcars, dating from 1916 - 1924, with one more modern one built in 1936.  Electrification is at 2200 V DC.

The photos were all taken within a few minutes of each other.  We were driving along the road alongside the line when we saw the trains, so a hurried stop was made.  Annoyingly after driving on after taking the photos I realised I had left my sunglasses on the roof of the car. Needless to say they had blown away by the time I stopped.

 

More recently the line has been modernised with new stock.

 

 

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La Givrine NStCM ABDe4/4 1 on inspection train & ABDe4/4 11 La Cure to Nyon 15th Aug 78 J6304

No 1 dates from 1916, No 11 from 1918.

 

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La Givrine NStCM ABDe4/4 1on inspection train & ABDe4/4 11 La Cure to Nyon 15th Aug 78 C4067

 

 

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La Givrine NStCM ABDe4/4 11 La Cure to Nyon 15th Aug 78 C4068

 

 

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La Givrine NStCM ABDe4/4 11 La Cure to Nyon 15th Aug 78 J6305

 

 

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Hi, Dave. Fascinating Swiss railways here. The first one, in photo' J6283 at Bouvernier MO (Orsieres to Martigny), is a lovely atmospheric shot, and a good portrait of ABDe 4/4 & Bt. The next photo's of La Givrine NStCM (La Cure to Nyon) are great. The railcars are delightful, and I especially like number 1 on the Inspection Train. The last two photo's C4068 and J6305 show number 11 and it's trailer using the loop line with good detail of the railcar and trailer.

 

All the best,

 

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A few more photos from Denmark today, this time out in the country.

 

I had stopped the car before I took this photo.

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Middlefart DSB Class MZ westbound EC train 13th Aug 92 C17899a

 

 

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Middlefart eastbound dmu 16th Aug 94 C19614

 

 

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Middlefart Lillabelt bridge DSB IC3to Copenhagen 16th Aug 94 dmu C19615

 

 

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Norre Aby dmu 13th Aug 92 C17832

 

 

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Norre Aby DSB IC dmu westbound 13th Aug 92 C17834

 

 

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Hi, Dave. I like the photo's of Denmark, they really are capturing the feel of the place very well indeed. In particular, I think that C17832 is nice and atmospheric - one of those photo's that shows a train running through the countryside so well.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

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 Today's photos were taken in Switzerland, once again on the metre gauge St Gallen Gais Apenzell line, near the village of Teufen.

 

 

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Teufen SGA ABeh4/4 7 Appenzell to St Gallen 4th Aug 90 C14714

 

 

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Teufen SGA ABDeh4/4 5 Special to StGallen 4th Aug 90 C14718

 

 

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Teufen SGA ABDeh4/4 5 Special to StGallen 4th Aug 90 C14720

 

 

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Teufen SGA BDEh4/4 13 St Gallen to Appenzell 4th Aug 90 C14721

 

 

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Teufen SGA BDEh4/4 13 St Gallen to Appenzell 4th Aug 90 C14722

 

 

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Hi, Dave. Some excellent Swiss photo's this evening. I particularly like C14718 of Teufen, SGA ABDeh 4/4 5 on a special to St. Gallen on 4th, August, 1990, along with C14720.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

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Another visit to Denmark today.  

 

In case anyone wonders how I select photos for this thread it's really very simple.  As I caption and do any colour etc corrections on photos I put them in folders by country.  Then I set up folders containing images to be posted up to about a week ahead.   Sometimes this means that photos from one country will come up quite often.  This is most likely in the case of Switzerland as I have several thousand photos taken there.

 

 

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Vojens DSB pw vehicle  131 26th July 92 C17035

 

 

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Vojens DSB Class MY 1122 light engine 17th Aug 93 C19055

 

 

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Vejle DSB dmu 17th Aug 94 C19625

 

 

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Vejle DSB dmu 17th Aug 94C19626

 

 

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Vejle view north 17th Aug 94 C19743

 

 

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Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's of Denmark this evening. I particularly like C19055 of Vojens, with DSB class MY, 122, light engine, on the 17th August, 1993.

 

All the best,

 

Market65.

 

P.S. Interesting to see how you make your photo' selections. Good to know that there are plenty of photo's to come - especially of Switzerland.

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A few days ago I mentioned the very sharp curve at the end of the station in Gais.  Today we have a few photos of trains negotiating it.  The line actually turns through 180 degrees- just like a model railway at one end of an oval.

 

The weather in Switzerland can be very wet at times.

 

It is metre gauge but they are trains, not trams.  The power cars are each about 17.5m long, just to give some idea of the curve.

 

 

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Gais Appenzelller Bahn ABt 112 and BDe4/4 12 Appenzell to St Gallen 28th July 1989 C12538

 

 

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Gais SGA BDeh4/4 7 Appenzell to St Gallen 4th August 1990 C14731

 

 

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Gais AB BDeh4/4 11 St Gallen to Appenzell 6th Aug 91 C16186

 

 

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Gais AB ABDeh4/4 8 Gais to Altstatten 6th Aug 91 C16189

 

 

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Gais AB ABt Appenzell to St Gallen 4th Aug 92 C17870

 

 

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Gais SGA BDeh4/4 13 Appenzell to St Gallen 4th Aug 90 C14755

 

 

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Hi, Dave. That curve at Gais is incredibly sharp! And in photo' C16186 there are what look like some very tight radius points.

 

All the best,

 

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The radius of that curve is 35 m. (just under 120ft) So in just 70 m it turns 170 degrees. It's not the smallest radius curve, the Basel tramway has curves of just 12 m. (40 ft). The entire Gais station, including the depot across from the station, takes up less then 290x120 meters.

 

 

Thanks very much for the information - I hoped someone would know the radius.    An HOm model of Gais would fit nicely in my spare room - it's perhaps as well the room already has a Swiss n gauge layout and a very small 0 gauge layout in it or I'd be very tempted to use the track plan for something with Bemo stock.

 

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I didn't, but Google Earth has a ruler that does ;)

 

Anyway, the sidings at the station are 40-50 meters long, sharp points too. For the curved one, a Peco point is too large ( :O ) so use the Bemo kit instead. However, do the following:

1) open kit

2) take out sleeper section

3) throw the poor excuse of sleepers in the bin :rolleyes:

 

Bemo standard track (code 80) is prone to malformation in time as the plastic contains a component that cannot stand the test of time. Replace with (real) wooden and/or copperclad PCB sleepers in the correct radius. Mind, if you smuggle a little by using a smaller radius (say 33 or 38 cm instead of the correct 40 cm) the entire station, including depot across the stream. will fit on 4' wide boards.

 

Stock is a bit of a problem, AFAIK there are no models for the Appenzeller nor SGA railways. You may get away with some RhB Bernina stock, repainted and re-bodied even, but if there is a model, it's brass, Swiss, sold out and thus prohibitively expensive :yes: Your best bet is probably Bühler (IIRC in Zürich) but if I'm not mistaken he either closed his shop, sold up or may not have what you're after. Never used him though.

 

 

Many thanks again.

 

I'm afraid it will have to remain a pipe dream, though at one time I did have a small Bemo layout which got sold when I had to economise a bit on my retirement.  Amongst the bits and pieces was an Appenzeller Bahn coach from one of the smaller HOm manufacturers, but I can't remember which firm.

 

David

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Back to France in 1967 again with some photos at Calais and one more from Carling of a coal industry loco.  As usual photos were taken of anything to do with the railway, not just locomotives.

 

 

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Carling Houllieres Basin Lorraine Alsthom BB 10 J0995 Aug 67

 

 

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Calais Ville SNCF Y7208 Aug 67 J1028

 

 

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Calais Ville SNCF 231G Lille to Paris and X23000 Aug 67 J1031

This is the only photo of a 231G which has survived.  I remember that Dad had problems with his camera at the end of this holiday, there were other photos but he didn't keep them - i.e. after they were looked at and noted in his index he threw them out as they were very overexposed.

 

 

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Calais Maritime SNCF 141R 1276 light engine Aug 67 J1034

 

 

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Calais Maritime SNCF wagon Aug 67 J1039

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Western Switzerland in August 1978 this evening.  

 

At the time these were taken I was having a holiday in France with fmily and friends, in a gite in Les Gets and had gone back to Switzerland for the day, ending up just south of Montreux, on the banks of Lac Leman (Lake Geneva).  e spent sometime watching the rains go buy and also visited the Chateau which gives good views of trains on the main line from Geneva to Chur and through the Simplon tunnel to Italy.

 

Byron visited Chateau Chillon in 1816 and wrote his poem "The Prisoner of Chillon Castle".  He also scratched his name on the wall.

 

 

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Chillon SBB Ae 6/6 11483 freight 5th Aug 78 J6243

 

 

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Chillon SBB RBe4/4 1424 eastbound Regionalzug 5th Aug 78 C4008

The RBe4/4 power cars dating from the araly 1960s have a continuous power rating of 2030kW.  A British Class 47 has a diesel engine of somewhat less power, about 1920kW (2580hp).  The RBe4/4s were usually used on local trains and of course could carry passengers.  They were only used to express trains in the case of a loco failure

 

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Chillon SBB RBe4/4 eastbound Regionalzug 5th Aug 78 J6197

 

 

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Chillon SBB Re4/4ii 11237 eastbound schnellzug 5th Aug 78 C4006

 

 

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Chillon SBB Re4/4ii eastbound Dienstzug 5th Aug 78 J6240

 

 

David

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Belgium again tonight, around Drongen.  Drongen is on the eastern edge of Gent (Ghent).  The railway runs from Ostende and Zeebrugge through Drongen and Gent to Brussels.

 

We spent the night in a motel near Drongen just by the Motorway.  My main memory of it is the restaurant which served very good food, you could choose your trout from the fish tank in the restaurant.

 

 

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Belgium Drongen SNCB CLass 16 16.05 pass to Oostende 13th Aug 90 C15229

 

 

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Belgium Drongen SNCB Type 62 163 westbound 13th Aug 90 C15230

 

 

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Belgium Drongen Type 82 367 to Gent St Pieter 13th Aug 90 C15231

 

 

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Belgium Drongen SNCB Class 51 5185 westbound cars 13th Aug 90 C15232

 

 

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Belgium Drongen SNCB Class 23 2377 eastbound hoppers 13th Aug 90 C15233

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That's not a dead bird stain in front of the number of 5185, it's a dot. Used to indicate the presence of a steam kettle, some trains still needed steam for heating.

I think you'll find that it's the exact opposite!  The dot prefix to the number indicates the removal of the steam heating boiler, effectively assigning the locomotive to freight duties.  I'm not sure exactly when, but it appears to have been introduced during the mid- to late-1980s and was given to examples of classes 51, 52, 53, 55 and 62 in service at that time.

 

I like the shot of the class 23 in "reversed" blue/yellow livery - I'm trying to find/remember whether I saw any of the class so painted (instead of the earlier green and more common blue/yellow styles).

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It's a long time ago since I saw a green RBe4/4... great trainspotting days back in the late 80's on Swiss rails!

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A visit to Austria this evening.

 

Feldkirch is in the west of Austria, very close to the Swiss border.  To the east lies the route over the Arlberg to the rest of Austria.  To the north there is a connection to Germany via Bregenz, to the west trains run through Liechtenstein to Switzerland.

 

 

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Feldkirch OBB 1063 015 5th Aug 90 C14773

 

 

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Feldkirch 1044 063 and Class 4020 5th Aug 90 C14774

 

 

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Feldkirch 4020 116 ecs 4th Aug 90 C14775

 

 

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Feldkirch 1044 009 5th Aug 90 C14778

 

 

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Feldkirch 1044 012 EC63 Transalpin Basel to Wien West and Klagenfurt 5th Aug 90 C14779

 

 

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Those pics of Austria bring back great memories, thanks for sharing Dave.

 

I also visited in 1990 and there were still a few of the old 1020s working local passenger and freights. Ian Futers layout 'Altausee' really got me interested in the OBB.

 

 

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Something of a mix of Swiss places today.

 

The first three are from St Gallen.  St Gallen seems to be considered to be a boring place by many Swiss but it has some nice trains to look at.

 

 

The first image is of a Trogener Bahn train, which runs along side the road from St Gallen to Trogen.  In St Gallen there are some interesting bits of overhead where the TB crosses the local trolleybus routes.

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St Gallen TB BDe44 8 St Gallen to Trogen 6th Aug 90 C14824

 

 

Next we have an Appenzeller Bahnen train, it's platforms are next to those of the Trogener Bahn, outside the main station.

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St Gallen SGA ABt 1111 StGallen to Appenzell 6th Aug 90 C14825

 

 

The third shows an SBB train entering the station from the west.

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St Gallen Re44ii 11121 6th Aug 90 C14826

 

 

While I was walking around Stein am Rhein a few days earlier I came across this nice little loco.

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Stein am Rhein miniature railway 3rd Aug 90 C14687

 

 

Finally I'm sure many of you know that there are a number of funiculars in Switzerland.

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Unterwasser Iltios Bahn funicular 5th Aug 90 C14798

 

 

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Austria again this evening.

 

We start with one more from Feldkirch and then move a fairly short distance to the west and stop at Nenzing, on the Arlberg route, to watch a few trains.

 

 

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Feldkirch 1044 080 EC Stuttgart to Feldkirch 5th Aug 90 C14777

 

 

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Nenzing Class 4020 Bludenz to Feldkirch 5th Aug 90 C14782

 

 

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Nenzing Class 4020 Bludenz to Feldkirch and 1044 073 plus 1044 083 EC Dachstein Basel and Lindau to Graz and Klagenfurt 5th Aug 90 C14783

 

 

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Nenzing Class 4020 Bludenz to Feldkirch and 1044 073 plus 1044 083 EC Dachstein Basel and Lindau to Graz and Klagenfurt 5th Aug 90 C14784

 

 

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Nenzing 1044 088 Alpehrhein Wien West to Sargans and Bregenz 5th Aug 90 C14785

 

 

David

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I've been eagerly awaiting the Austrian pics. And they were well worth waiting for.

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I've been eagerly awaiting the Austrian pics. And they were well worth waiting for.

 

 

I do have quite a lot more when I get around to captioning them.

 

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