Jonny's "where are these?" photo album

[The Stationmaster]

15 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

Whatever it was called south of Gloucester towards Bristol?

It's definitely Quedgeley - where the concrete sleeper plant was at one time behind the tree line and when the trees were a lot smaller

[jonny777]

Does anyone recognise these mini signals? Could it be somewhere in the Coalville area? 

 

 

[jonny777]

From another image I have discovered it is near Three Spires Junc. 

[dagrizz]

Yes it is. There is a photo from 1971 on the Warwickshire Railways website which shows the signals.

 

Graham 

[jonny777]

This location is another mystery to me.  A nicely composed photo, nevertheless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[101]

4 minutes ago, jonny777 said:

This location is another mystery to me.  A nicely composed photo, nevertheless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's Marchwood on the Fawley branch 

[jonny777]

Thanks very much 101. 

[eastglosmog]

A picture of that signal taken in 1967, taken from the level crossing:

Edited December 22, 2019 by eastglosmog
Added a bit

[daveyb]

The RAF station at Quedgley was called RAF Innsworth, it's now a joint hq and called Imjin Barracks. The HQ & Support Battalion for the Allied Rapid Reaction Corps is based there.  There are a few lodger units located on the airfield as well.

[The Stationmaster]

12 hours ago, daveyb said:

The RAF station at Quedgley was called RAF Innsworth, it's now a joint hq and called Imjin Barracks. The HQ & Support Battalion for the Allied Rapid Reaction Corps is based there.  There are a few lodger units located on the airfield as well.

But that is north of Gloucester.  Quedgeley where the sidings were is south of Gloucester.

[daveyb]

Yes, my mistake entirely, thank you.

 

The storage dept was separate from the flight station. Some of the houses now on the Quedgley site are service families accommodation (as they now call married quarters)

[iands]

Apologies for hijacking Jonny's thread yet again, but I've recently purchased quite a few photos and slides on eBay and I would like to pin down the location of this particular 'seasonal' image.

 

The details state "62471 Glen Falloch at Pan Bridge 1960". I've done a bit of research and understand that 62471 was a St. Margarets (64A) loco all its BR life (1948 until withdrawal in March 1960), so, given the snowy scene, I presume that the photo is possibly sometime between January and March 1960. I have seen another photo of 62471 at Galashiels in mid 1959, so I assume that the loco perhaps worked mostly in and around the Borders area (though the loco may well have travelled much further afield). I've searched through a few documents and maps (OS, NLS, Cobb Atlas, Google, etc.) but so far I've have been unable to pin down exactly where "Pan Bridge" is. Do any of the more knowledgeable folk on RMweb know where Pan Bridge is please?

 

Many thanks in anticipation.

 

 

[eastwestdivide]

The details come up on 

http://www.steamindex.com/magrack/steamwld2.htm

an index to Steam World (Issue 247 of January 2008)

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It's snow time! 8-11.
Colour-Rail winter photographs: snow-plough fitted D34 No. 62471 Glen Falloch at Pan Bridge with Dunbar freight in February 1960 (C.J. Sanderson);

 

and on 

http://www.steamindex.com/backtrak/bt13.htm

an index to Backtrack 1999 Volume 13, Number 3 (March, 1999), in a feature "North British Steam" p142-3

 

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No. 62471 Glen Falloch passing Pan bridge with Dunbar freight on day with heavy snow in February 1960 (C.J.B. Sanderson)

 

 

Following that up, I found

http://s548745873.websitehome.co.uk/bobfarmerv2/page/vol13magazineindexbutton.html

another index to Backtrack Vol 13, which says it's in the "General area" of Edinburgh - extract from table:

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NB class K, BR No. 62471 / Locomotives / Pan Bridge / Edinburgh

 

 

Thinking about it, would it be a local name for a road that once led to one of the salt pans near Prestonpans??

 

There's a (rebuilt) bridge with the right sort of terrain on a road near Prestonpans that's not named on Google or Bing maps

e.g.

https://goo.gl/maps/NPZijeyzr2LtUg1s7

 

It's a wild guess, but plausible.

Edited December 26, 2019 by eastwestdivide
More info

[iands]

2 hours ago, eastwestdivide said:

The details come up on 

http://www.steamindex.com/magrack/steamwld2.htm

an index to Steam World (Issue 247 of January 2008)

 

and on 

http://www.steamindex.com/backtrak/bt13.htm

an index to Backtrack 1999 Volume 13, Number 3 (March, 1999), in a feature "North British Steam" p142-3

 

 

 

Following that up, I found

http://s548745873.websitehome.co.uk/bobfarmerv2/page/vol13magazineindexbutton.html

another index to Backtrack Vol 13, which says it's in the "General area" of Edinburgh - extract from table:

 

 

Thinking about it, would it be a local name for a road that once led to one of the salt pans near Prestonpans??

 

There's a (rebuilt) bridge with the right sort of terrain on a road near Prestonpans that's not named on Google or Bing maps

e.g.

https://goo.gl/maps/NPZijeyzr2LtUg1s7

 

It's a wild guess, but plausible.

Many thanks eastwestdivide, fantastic bit of detective work.

[eastwestdivide]

The "Dunbar freight" is the biggest clue I reckon.

 

There's an old book at 

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IPdDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA819&lpg=PA819&dq=panbridge+parish&source=bl&ots=1aZNriFRE3&sig=ACfU3U1ymVEbXen_Wt2gwerWqxawvOvhrQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiL0NC4-9PmAhVOiFwKHQI6CNEQ6AEwBXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=panbridge parish&f=false

Which lists Panbridge (one word) as a parish in Forfarshire, near Panmure house/Carnoustie, but I can't locate a nearby bridge, and the Dunbar freight sounds unlikely there.

Edited December 26, 2019 by eastwestdivide

[Steamport Southport]

It's a familiar photograph. I remember it because of the wagons which look freshly painted.

 

 

 

Jason

[iands]

1 hour ago, eastwestdivide said:

The "Dunbar freight" is the biggest clue I reckon.

 

There's an old book at 

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=IPdDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA819&lpg=PA819&dq=panbridge+parish&source=bl&ots=1aZNriFRE3&sig=ACfU3U1ymVEbXen_Wt2gwerWqxawvOvhrQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiL0NC4-9PmAhVOiFwKHQI6CNEQ6AEwBXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=panbridge parish&f=false

Which lists Panbridge (one word) as a parish in Forfarshire, near Panmure house/Carnoustie, but I can't locate a nearby bridge, and the Dunbar freight sounds unlikely there.

I think you are correct with "Dunbar Freight" being a big clue. On that premise, having looked at the maps again between Edinburgh - Dunbar, it could be a bridge that took a "lane" (I've called it a "lane", but it could be nothing more than a farm track) from Meadowmill to Cockenzie (OS 25 inch 1892-1914), Subsequent maps (e.g. OS 1:1250/1:2500 1944-1967) shows the "lane" downgraded to a footpath. Looking at the same area on today's Google maps shows the B1361 bypassing Meadowmill (on the opposite side of the railway from Meadowmill) and the "bridge" demolished. The "lane" as depicted on the 25 inch map, shows it bisecting an area labelled "Site of the Battle of Prestonpans", so to my thinking this is a strong candidate for the location "Pans Bridge".

[jonny777]

Please don't apologise for hi-jacking my topic, Ian; AFAIAC the more varied contributions the merrier. 

 

However, after a short Christmas hiatus the scanning has recommenced and this image is also of interest. This is a very short train to include a catering vehicle and the 47 (which I think is 47658) has a Scottie Dog emblem. The station name is almost readable and seems to have at least two 'E's in it; but I can't quite make it out. 

 

 

 

[Bomag]

4 hours ago, jonny777 said:

Please don't apologise for hi-jacking my topic, Ian; AFAIAC the more varied contributions the merrier. 

 

However, after a short Christmas hiatus the scanning has recommenced and this image is also of interest. This is a very short train to include a catering vehicle and the 47 (which I think is 47658) has a Scottie Dog emblem. The station name is almost readable and seems to have at least two 'E's in it; but I can't quite make it out. 

 

 

 

 

It could be a potion working for a Cross Country service split at Carstairs. Most of the stations look to have been rebuilt so its not easy to tell.  There may be a signal box in the distance behind the tree nest to the last coach.

[jonny777]

Yes, there is a box obscured by the trees and (what I had not noticed before) a big junction signal above the first coach. 

 

 

 

 

[DY444]

26 minutes ago, Bomag said:

 

It could be a potion working for a Cross Country service split at Carstairs. Most of the stations look to have been rebuilt so its not easy to tell.  There may be a signal box in the distance behind the tree nest to the last coach.

 

There is also a signal with pos 1 and 4 feathers behind the first coach so that suggests a junction or loops immediately ahead.

Edited December 27, 2019 by DY444

[Davexoc]

Other clues are staggered platform, and there are anti-tresspass boards in the foreground, so road bridge behind the camera?

Then, in amongst those trees on the left you can see a green aspect on a signal, mounted high up presumably for sighting purposes.

[Edwin_m]

None of the stations on the Edinburgh-Carstairs section seem to match, there is no milepost 12 and bridge 12 isn't at a station.  The signals sort of match Slateford but the platforms are wrong.  

[5BarVT]

Tall signals for sighting over trains on adjacent lines is characteristic of Edinburgh resignalling.  If the box in the background is ‘still’ working, it would be a fringe to Edinburgh: the only one I can think of is Cupar and it isn’t right for that.  The trespass guards could be for access between platforms, but still doesn’t help me!

Paul.

[DY444]

The Scottish based locomotive, tall signals etc are a red herring.  It's Micklefield

Edited December 28, 2019 by DY444