Mod6 Posted December 22, 2010 Share Posted December 22, 2010 Recent posts on Heljan 33s and 47s have been moved to their respective dedicated topics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Just for info lads; this release still has the welded up gangway doors so it's only really suitable for 1966 and subsequent years. Dave. Dave, Is it possible to backdate the doors like a "Peak" nose or is there more too it than that? The pics on the Hatton's site don't give much away and they're the best I can find of the model. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The doors can be scribed on with relative ease with small plastic or brass scraps attached to represent hinges. I think George Dent did the conversion last year in Model Rail. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Piszczek Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Dave, Is it possible to backdate the doors like a "Peak" nose or is there more too it than that? The pics on the Hatton's site don't give much away and they're the best I can find of the model. Cheers, David This bit shows a 26 nose scribe: http://ardleybridge.fotopic.net/p39997402.html... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6975 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 As requested, a few shots of 33008 in green plus a shot of a pair in an unusual location.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This bit shows a 26 nose scribe: http://ardleybridge.fotopic.net/p39997402.html... Thanks Pete, very useful. Where did you source your tablet/token catchers? I have some of the 5552 etched ones but they are more for steam. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 47107 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Where did you source your tablet/token catchers? Cheers, David They come with the model, but are available as a spare part from Howes. http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/Railways/viewProduct.php?ProdID=2565 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 As requested, a few shots of 33008 in green plus a shot of a pair in an unusual location.. Nice Though if you could explain the headcodes for me that'd be good to! When I googled them for my Class 14 I didn't really get anything helpful back for either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2011 Nice Though if you could explain the headcodes for me that'd be good to! When I googled them for my Class 14 I didn't really get anything helpful back for either Referring to the four class 33 pictures the headcodes displayed are: Double white blank (often known as "square") meaning simply the front of a train when no other route number or headcode is appropriate. Its use was largely confined to e.c.s moves and shunting movements for many years but with the general disappearance of headcodes on trains it has been seen a little more widely on those locos and units suitably equipped. An unofficial display of one red and one white blank was commonly used by drivers of short-distance shuttles and branch line operations where frequent changing of the official code between numerals and red blanks every few minutes was considered a time-consuming nuisance. 33 would be a reference to the locomotive class and may also indicate reporting number 1Z33. Again in more recent times the actual code carried often bore no resemblance to the route used. 0E is a third extempore code often used by locomotives operating Venice Simplon Orient Express workings (0E for Orient Express); note that the 0 is numeric as an alpha O was not included on the roller blinds. The train shown appears to be formed of VSOE stock 89 is the official code for a semi-fast train between Portsmouth Harbour and all points beyond Salisbury to Bristol Temple Meads or Cardiff Central running via Netley. In practice WR crews often displayed "square" between Cardiff and Bristol as they were not necessarily familiar with SR route codes. 89 was also used (with or without official sanction) for occasional workings to Weston-super-Mare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thank you for that! I can't quite remember what numbers are in the Heljan 33/2 but will put two red squares on one end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted January 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2011 Thank you for that! I can't quite remember what numbers are in the Heljan 33/2 but will put two red squares on one end! The Heljan head code sheet contains: 62 11 89 (can be rotated to do 68) 99 (can be rotated to do 66) HG 5J EK GO 2 x white blanks 2 x red blanks 62 was the Waterloo to West of England generally, 99 is either Uckfield or Tunbridge Wells, can't quite remember which at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Any idea which would be good (if at all) for Southampton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Any idea which would be good (if at all) for Southampton? See posting above 89 - Portsmouth to Cardiff route Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 7, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2011 11 Brighton - Exeter St Davids post-1976 (when 6L+6B was used, then again when the Cromptons returned) 89 Portsmouth Harbour - Bristol / Cardiff 90 Waterloo - Weymouth Quay boat trains 96 Waterloo - Southampton Western Docks boat trains 99 Brighton - Bristol / Cardiff were among the headcodes regularly seen on Cromptons at Southampton and all of which can be made from the Heljan sheets. It is also easy to cut the Heljan sheets and make additional codes. G2 was used between 1967-1975 for Brighton - Exeter (and Plymouth before the route was closed) G6 was used at that time for the summer Sundays Brighton - Poole train For a light engine the trailing end should show double red blank. When the loco is coupled to a train the trailing end should be set to double black blank. For modelling purposes I use double reds. Freight trains used a complex series of alpha-numeric / numeric-alpha codes for trips wholly within the SR and all-alpha for inter-regional workings. Cromptons were employed on a fair number of local trips, oil and general freight workings. Referring to the post above 99 also indicated London Bridge - East Croydon - Uckfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 So we don't incur the wrath of mods for taking this too far off topic, can someone pm me a thread or website this is all on please? Like I said earlier, I found a lot of very unrelated stuff when I searched! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 8, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2011 Link here http://www.semgonline.com/headcodes/eheadcodes.html My post here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=441959#p441959 refers to the most comprehensive publication offering the information you seek. Copies are often available on eBay and occasionally other sources such as Amazon. Posted in the open forum as it may prove of interest to others as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 They come with the model, but are available as a spare part from Howes. http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/Railways/viewProduct.php?ProdID=2565 Thanks, very useful. Too bad the catcher's didn't come with the 27s as well as I could use a few sets. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class29returns Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 2707-27027 in blue livery with full yellow ends.This depicts the freight variant of this class with no boiler water tanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34040 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Perhaps a surprise is the omission (at least for now) of further 33/1 types. D6580 in green could arguably be piped but only ran thus for a very short time. Given the ease of obtaining 33/0 and 33/2 compared with the relative scarcity of 33/1 in plain rail blue there could be a gap in the market here. Surely, D6580 in green with push/pull equipment was on the last list of Cromptons released? Hattons have at least 10 in stock as I write. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 28, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 28, 2011 D6580 is a current release. In reality the loco only carried that livery with pipes for a very short time. My comment was more aimed at the blue diesel market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 47107 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 D6580 is a current release. In reality the loco only carried that livery with pipes for a very short time. My comment was more aimed at the blue diesel market. Blue livery 33/1 is also available in the latest batch. http://www.ehattons.com/StockDetail.aspx?SID=33095 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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