34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Prompted by a posting in the Bowie thread, this might be worth mentioning in the context of online discussions. On Wednesday 17th December my wife came home from work quite obviously not herself. Turned out to be bronchitis, and confined her to bed until Christmas was past, very unwell indeed poor lamb. So, now we get to consequences. She had been out on field work that Wednesday, and exchanging e-mails relevant to the business with a couple of specialist contacts, and also taking notes from the civil engineer and architect at the location. Once she was feeling more herself she started reviewing her notes and e-mails; and they revealed very nicely her deteriorating state: sensible in the morning, unintelligible by end of the afternoon, interestingly 'eccentric' in between. So, how do we detect this in ourselves or others while rambling on, online? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2016 I read through what I have written and put in the missing words so it makes a semblance of sense. I am sat at home at the moment as the chest bug I got for Christmas has come back so this may be nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 I don't know about online ramblings but watching Countdown often gives me a clue that I'm going downhill. Obviously I'm no octochamp but am normally hoping to get 7's (unless the mix of letters is diabolical) with a smattering of 8's and 9's. However if I'm going down with flu etc I struggle to get anything better than 6 and get really annoyed if there are 7's and 8's that I feel I would have got in normal play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 And highlights the potential dangers of working with machinery or driving, when you don't appreciate how you are affected (I don't know if your wife did drive 34the, therefore this is not aimed at her). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 ....now we get to consequences. She had been out on field work that Wednesday, and exchanging e-mails relevant to the business with a couple of specialist contacts, and also taking notes from the civil engineer and architect at the location. Once she was feeling more herself she started reviewing her notes and e-mails; and they revealed very nicely her deteriorating state: sensible in the morning, unintelligible by end of the afternoon, interestingly 'eccentric' in between.... This is the genuinely interesting bit. When you say "interestingly 'eccentric' in between", does this mean that the eccentricity only happened at a single point in the day (e.g. lunchtime), or was it at a number of points during the day and, if so, at what points? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 And highlights the potential dangers of working with machinery or driving, when you don't appreciate how you are affected (I don't know if your wife did drive 34the, therefore this is not aimed at her). Oh, she drove home alright, not realising how poorly she was. Thought she was only starting a cold, but I was immediately aware she had a pretty elevated temperature on reaching home. Nothing in the way of practical transport alternatives in any case starting from a country location toward the western side of Beds. This is the genuinely interesting bit. When you say "interestingly 'eccentric' in between", does this mean that the eccentricity only happened at a single point in the day (e.g. lunchtime), or was it at a number of points during the day and, if so, at what points? From a limited number of timed and untimed entries I would guess at a steady deterioration from 'normal service' first thing in the morning, deteriorating but still intelligible up to about 2pm (spelling errors, syntax becoming wayward, malapropisms creeping in) near complete gibberish by the time she set off for home at 4pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 .... how do we detect this in ourselves or others while rambling on, online? Surely the fact we're all on here indicates we're all rambling unintelligibly already? ....From a limited number of timed and untimed entries I would guess at a steady deterioration from 'normal service' first thing in the morning, deteriorating but still intelligible up to about 2pm (spelling errors, syntax becoming wayward, malapropisms creeping in) near complete gibberish by the time she set off for home at 4pm. Not claiming any medical knowledge, but I wonder if that means there was or is a latent neurological disorder triggered off by a cold? Would this be something that a great many of us have, without knowing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 Not claiming any medical knowledge, but I wonder if that means there was or is a latent neurological disorder triggered off by a cold? Would this be something that a great many of us have, without knowing? Well into neurological specialist territory there. Small changes to our chemical physiology from having an elevated or reduced body temperature, or lacking oxygen, or imbibing a little alcohol or other narcotic; all will alter the brain's functioning, I don't think there need to be any further disorders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 So, how do we detect this in ourselves or others while rambling on, online?I edit my posts to make the meaning clear, when I've rambled or rushed. You'd think re-reading them before posting would be sufficient, but sadly a once or even twice though doesn't seem to cut it. I try not to add or subtract ideas (unless no one has seen the thread) and if there are new posts in the thread I usually mark substantive changes with "EDIT". Some posts get edited a lot, while I am still thinking them through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Try going to a high altitude and you will soon find out what a "modified you" is. I was talking to a Sherpa many years ago in Nepal after having had a particularly bad night and asked him if you ever get used to being at a high altitude. He said the strange feeling never stopped even after 20 years. It is hard to explain. It is not like a nightmare or a bad dream. You feel as though you are not in control of your body. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 ... You feel as though you are not in control of your body. I had exactly that feeling in the early hours of New Year's Day.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I remember getting the occasional migraines during examinations. I thought the exam was reasonably straightforward and was quite pleased with my performance, until I saw my results and was shown the papers; most of the answers I had given were complete nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2016 Tiredness has deleterious effects, regardless of what is causing the tiredness, be it exhaustion, illness, drugs, whatever. It's why driving while tired is in many ways worse than driving under the influence. I certainly notice that my English suffers when I'm very tired and I have to work a bit to correct errors in texts, forum posts, emails, etc. Edit: I'm tired now (most of the time in fact), which is why I've had to edit this post already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2016 Im pretty sure quite a few can judge how im feeling mentally going by the posts in my thread, by the end of a week of nights it sometimes gets to things like "couldnt be bothered with the proper camera tonight", "couldnt be bothered getting out of the cab for pictures" etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2016 Im pretty sure quite a few can judge how im feeling mentally going by the posts in my thread, by the end of a week of nights it sometimes gets to things like "couldnt be bothered with the proper camera tonight", "couldnt be bothered getting out of the cab for pictures" etc I thought "couldn't be bothered with the proper camera" is an excuse for leaving it at home and "not getting out of the cab", because it's raining........................ Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Try going to a high altitude and you will soon find out what a "modified you" is. I was talking to a Sherpa many years ago in Nepal after having had a particularly bad night and asked him if you ever get used to being at a high altitude. He said the strange feeling never stopped even after 20 years. It is hard to explain. It is not like a nightmare or a bad dream. You feel as though you are not in control of your body. Deprivation of oxygen whether by slow degrees as in ascending a mountain, or fast as in a depressurisation at altitude is very 'modified you'; although the effects of these two events are very different. They are not kidding in the flight safety announcements about 'first get your mask on before attending to your neighbours'. At high altitude it's 'act fast, or die quite casually through not appreciating the trouble you are in'. They ought to show the video pre-flight of how quickly experienced aviators who full know what is coming 'lose it' completely in rapid depressurisation without an air supply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 34the, I have stopped a colleague driving home as they were obviously "not right" due to illness, though it was relatively easy being in town & a family member came & drove them home in the car. A long way from home or in the country - possibly one for the recovery service ? Not boasting about doing this, it's just in the sector I was working in, it was easy to spot & arrange. It is not an easy decision to make for someone, & some people would probably not accept that they are a liability, I hope a colleague would do the same for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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