pete_mcfarlane Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 20/11/2021 at 10:45, Compound2632 said: If one looks at photos of Merlin, closing one eye, G N can easily look like C R. How about this for a Caledonian 4-4-0 in blue? (OK, it's one of the Belgian 'Dunnalistair' copies, but close) 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, pete_mcfarlane said: How about this for a Caledonian 4-4-0 in blue? (OK, it's one of the Belgian 'Dunnalistair' copies, but close) I'd say the shade is distinctly on the lilac side! Some where I recall seeing a photo of a bridge abutment in Belgium with the front of a Dunalastair carved in relief on it. Jim 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Caley Jim said: I'd say the shade is distinctly on the lilac side! Some where I recall seeing a photo of a bridge abutment in Belgium with the front of a Dunalastair carved in relief on it. John Thomas, The Springburn Story (David & Charles, 1964), plate on p. 110 (in the second, 1974, edition). But it's an 812, not a Dunalastair. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: John Thomas, The Springburn Story (David & Charles, 1964), plate on p. 110 (in the second, 1974, edition). But it's an 812, not a Dunalastair. Thanks, Stephen. I don't seem to have my copy of that anymore. Must have loaned it to someone and never got it back! Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted November 25, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2021 here you are, Jim, a nice shiny tram is about to be attacked by a concrete Dunalistair jumping out from behind the traffic lights. Place your bets. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted November 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Northroader said: here you are, Jim, a nice shiny tram is about to be attacked by a concrete Dunalistair jumping out from behind the traffic lights. I'm pretty sure that's (a) not concrete and (b) the same 812 as in the photo in The Springburn Story: It's all in the front footplate sticking-out-e-ness. The Belgian Railways bought some of each and built more of their own, along with a 4-4-2T derived from the Dunalastair. Edited November 25, 2021 by Compound2632 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Burnham Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, Northroader said: here you are, Jim, a nice shiny tram is about to be attacked by a concrete Dunalistair jumping out from behind the traffic lights. Place your bets. Oostende if I remember rightly, what was the NMBS/SNCV, now De Lijn unless it's been reorganised again. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caley Jim Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I'm pretty sure that's (a) not concrete and (b) the same 812 as in the photo in The Springburn Story: 812's shared many features with the Dunanlastair 1's (721 class) and were sometimes referred to as 'Dunalastair goods'. Jim 2 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Compound2632 said: It's all in the front footplate sticking-out-e-ness. I do love the correct technical terminology!! 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 4, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2021 Let the good times roll. After lunch today, I ventured out for a ten minute walk to the Memorial Hall, the Wiltshire 7mm Show being on, yeeaay!! Agreeably surprised how well the traders had slotted into the place, with decent circulation and good space on the stalls. From the bit I heard it looked to be a successful show, even if not on the hurly burly scale of Reading or Bristol. The folks I talked to were just very happy to be at a show, meeting like minded people. i tried to do my bit to help things on, if only simple things: plastic and brass strip and rods, plus a needle file from Squires; a package of wagon crate loads from Skytrex; wagon axleguards, buffers, and ba screws from Heywood; a few figures from Omen miniatures; a pack of wagon wheels from Connoisseur; and a lowside goods wagon kit to join the general pool from Gladiator. Thanks to all involved in bringing the circus to town. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted December 5, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 19/11/2021 at 20:48, Northroader said: I very rarely take pictures of trains, but I felt impelled to, so here’s two I took I had to "clap" when seeing those photos (not clap literally, my wife would have found it odd). Lovely machines, and to think they were right there in front of you. On 19/11/2021 at 20:48, Northroader said: “Aha!” you say, “the Guinness Brewery”. There's a handful of photos of the Guinness brewery in Dublin on Britain from Above. They aren't very clear, but this crop seems to more or less match the trackplan on Roger Farnworth's pages: Source: Britain from Above, embedding permitted. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 5, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2021 I didn’t see any, but the “S” class had big brothers, the “V” and “VS” classes, which were totally magnificent engines, guaranteed to make you forget all about Swindon. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 5, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Northroader said: I didn’t see any, but the “S” class had big brothers, the “V” and “VS” classes, which were totally magnificent engines, guaranteed to make you forget all about Swindon. They would turn your thoughts Derby-wards. The Vs were closely based on the LMS Standard Compounds and the VS were simple versions of the same - not that many 3-cylinder simple 4-4-0s around, only the Schools (also Class V) spring to mind. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 13 hours ago, Northroader said: I didn’t see any, but the “S” class had big brothers, the “V” and “VS” classes, which were totally magnificent engines, guaranteed to make you forget all about Swindon. Looks to me like Edward on steroids... Hat, coat, etc... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Premium Metropolitan H Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 05/12/2021 at 10:03, Compound2632 said: They would turn your thoughts Derby-wards. The Vs were closely based on the LMS Standard Compounds and the VS were simple versions of the same - not that many 3-cylinder simple 4-4-0s around, only the Schools (also Class V) spring to mind. Don't forget the Gresley D49 "Hunts" and "Shires". The "Shires were mainly the D49/1 type with Walschaerts valvegear and Gresley conjugation to the centre cylinder, while the D49/2 "Hunts" were the ones fitted with Lentz rotary cam operated poppet valves. There were 6 D49/3 "Shires" fitted with "Oscillating" cam operated Lentz poppet valves - but these were rebuilt to D49/1 spec relatively early in their lives. Pity the Hornby "0" gauge No.2 Special D49s didn't carry any representation of the valvegear - but I would give one house room if one came my way at a reasonable price! Regards Chris H 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 6, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) Chris, with you all the way with the D49s. Trouble was they were on a line which was well stocked with Pacifics, V2s, and even Atlantics, so did get a back seat on what duties were given. The GNRI Vs were at the top of the prestige work with no rivals, and even the Midland Compounds got top line jobs like the “Andy Capp Special”. The ones I really liked were the ones with the Lentz Cam gear, a marvellous piece of engineering. You had a cam shaft which spanned the width of the engine, there were about five inlet cams for each cylinder, and these all flowed into each other, you couldn’t have steps as the camshaft moved sideways across the followers. The exhaust cams were just one profile, the beauty of being able to have the valve events separate. It was made from special hardened steel, with burnished surface. Then the valves were big double beat discs which you lapped in with paste, just like the valves on a motor bike decoke, only so much bigger. You can see the loco in totality at a railway station, but things like a Lentz camshaft were never appreciated generally. Edited December 6, 2021 by Northroader 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Metropolitan H said: Don't forget the Gresley D49 "Hunts" and "Shires". I did, such things being well outside my circle of knowledge! I was intrigued to read that the D49/2 group were initially planned to be compounds on the Smith system, as originally used on the first Midland Smith-Johnson compounds and of course Smith's NER prototype No. 1619. Deeley eliminated any Smith patent features from the Midland Compounds, so they, the LMS Standard Compounds, and the Great Northern Class V compounds were Deeley Compounds. Edited December 6, 2021 by Compound2632 sp. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 12, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2021 Anyway, enough gallivanting around for now, I’d best get back to showing some modelling. At present, I’m typing under the handicap of watching dodgems swirling round on 40% of the area I’m typing on, thanks to some damned software change that happened a week ago, let’s hope it’s fixed soon. One nettle that’s been grasped is pushing on with ballasting the track and texturing the platform surface area. The main material being used is old spent ballast gathered from previous versions, crunched up, and redistributed, with fresh added, including ballast from smaller scales, and sand. I’m trying to get a sort of grainy texture, of varying colours. Perhaps I should try Chris Nevard’s technique of working in modelling clay, which gives a very good appearance:http://nevardmedia.blogspot.com/2011/08/creating-effect-of-ash-ballast.html Looking at it, I want to lighten the platform surface a bit more yet. 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 14, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) IThe other job is a wagon kit I treated myself to at the trade fair the weekend before last. One from Gladiator, of a LNWR diagram 1 oneplank, with fixed sides and ends, which will be a useful addition to the general wagon pool. It’s made from a one piece resin casting, well detailed, then white metal casting additions, buffer housings, axlebox/ guard/spring assemblies, and brakegear, also wire loops for horse hooks. I invested in some new drills, as I had to drill out the buffer housings and the axleboxes. I don’t like superglue, I go for 24 hour Araldite for these parts, and checked that the wheels were touching down square on a flat surface all round before leaving it to set. The buffers are also glued in, rather than sprung. A piece of lead flashing was stuck under the floor to add some weight, and I’ve replaced the couplings with my own pattern having forward and backward facing slot and a single long link. The wagon has had a coat of Humbrol light grey primer. The other happening the weekend before last was my daughter ringing to say she was bringing her family, plus my son, over this last weekend. (They’re all away over Christmas proper) So we ordered a load of goodies, and we had a family Christmas a fortnight early, which was very nice. Edited December 14, 2021 by Northroader 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 16, 2021 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2021 EMERGENCY CABINET MEETING: “NEW BUG IS SWEEPING THE COUNTRY” Boris admits. 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2021 Just remember that diamonds are a LNWR wagon enthusiast's best friend. "Talk to me Watson Emmett". 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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F-UnitMad Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Northroader said: EMERGENCY CABINET MEETING: “NEW BUG IS SWEEPING THE COUNTRY” Boris admits. 1 hour ago, Northroader said: Ok, I'm now officially Lost. I can't see any insects in the first photo, & have no idea what Double Diamond has to do with it?? (other than I know the North British works plates were a diamond. Am I getting warm with photo two??) Edited December 16, 2021 by F-UnitMad spelling, as usual. D'oh!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 16, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: I can't see any insects in the first photo, & have no idea what Double Diamond has to do with it?? (other than I know the North British works plates were a diamond. Am I getting warm with phogo two??) Bitten by the Earlestown bug; LNWR wagons carried a pair of white "Egyptian" diamonds as identifying marks, as seen here. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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