RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted January 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2016 That is a top bit of kit, what a beast. Thanks for sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted January 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2016 It looks like a Nuffield on the back, first thing I drove on the road a four wheel trailer full of hay behind me and a downhill 1 in 7..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Correct Mick, a 1964 Nuffield 10/60, 10 speed gear box, 60 hp, an expensive machine in its day. Yes, it's better at pulling than stopping though I did replace its discs and pads last year, yes, disc brakes. At sometime in its life the frames have been stretched and the original BMC 4 cylinder replaced with the 6 cylinder version making it, unofficially, a 10/90. Up engining for ploughing duties was was not that uncommon on Nuffields and contemporary Fordsons. It's not a show machine, I just like tinkering and use it for paddock maintenance, pulling out the odd tree etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted January 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2016 The farmer I worked for had been a contractor with a threshing machine so it came equipped with a pulley drive as well. It had a 5 speed box but I think it had less power than 60 bhp. Looked it up a 10/42. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 The Nuffields from the first Universal up to the 10/60 all had the same family look. The next, the 4/65 had a different, more modern look, though it didn't go down well with farmers. After that they became part of the British Leyland empire and took on another look again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony_S Posted January 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2016 The very worst terrain for grip is wet grass, the surface just slips away from under the tyre. Only this morning I had to pull my 14' flatbed trailer off a particularly sodden patch of grass up a slight gradient. I didn't even consider using the Disco because I knew its road biased tyres would just slip and spin. I used the forward control which has new bar grips fitted. Even that slithered a bit until it dug in and away we went. Left two deep furrows behind.... image.jpeg Many many years ago, it must have been early 1970s our family holiday was spent camping on the west coast of Scotland. On the day we were leaving the chap in the tent next to us said we would have to stay longer as the grassy slope out was too slippy even for his Land Rover (which he had been enthusing about all week). Dad reckoned we were getting out and even offered to drive the Land Rover out for him. The chap said there was no way we were getting out with a Ford Corsair with a boat behind it packed with camping stuff. He did, so I suppose it isn't only tyres!My wife and I went on a Land Rover off road experience recently. Wet grass was one of the experiences! All their tyres were whatever was standard from the factory, M+S rated road tyres. We had a Discovery Sport and it did seem to cope. It was fun, though the instructor said,it had been more fun the previous day,with torrential rain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 The X Trail was indeed a terrific little thing. I learnt long ago, the places you could get to with an Escort van if you put your mind to it! But the X Trail, along with the Hyundai Santa Fe, Suzuki Vitara and the original RAV4 really defined the "utility crossover" class. My dad used to do the same with an Allegro estate complete with kayaks on the roof and camping gear in the boot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 31, 2016 Allegro's - to quote Porcy "don't get me started!". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The worst surface I've found to drive on is silty clay, when wet. Most pipeline spreads have a "running track" which means the vehicle running route, between the topsoil pile and pipe string, on the exposed subsoil - needs care when wet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthesnail96 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Correct Mick, a 1964 Nuffield 10/60, 10 speed gear box, 60 hp, an expensive machine in its day. Yes, it's better at pulling than stopping though I did replace its discs and pads last year, yes, disc brakes. At sometime in its life the frames have been stretched and the original BMC 4 cylinder replaced with the 6 cylinder version making it, unofficially, a 10/90. Up engining for ploughing duties was was not that uncommon on Nuffields and contemporary Fordsons. It's not a show machine, I just like tinkering and use it for paddock maintenance, pulling out the odd tree etc. Ah ha, beat me to answering the question before I'd asked it- I thought it looked a little longer than it should! We appear to have very similar interests Arthur, my Dad had a Universal 4 (a later one, without the sliding hubs, and not as shiny as yours) so I've a soft spot for Nuffields as well as Land Rovers. Always liked the 101. I had a 2a on 900x16 bar grips, amusing and terrifying in roughly equal measure in the wet. As for the comments about having to drive on the verge to unwind the transmission in Series landies, if there's enough traction to wind it up there's no reason to put it in 4wd in the first place... Was impressed that the S3 petrol on little A/T tyres that acts as a tender to the steam roller I play with pulled the living van up a wet grassy slope from a standing start at a rally last year- bit of slip but no fuss. Not sure what it weighs but on narrow solid rubber tyres it had sunk in a bit and isn't the easiest thing to move! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 As for the comments about having to drive on the verge to unwind the transmission in Series landies, if there's enough traction to wind it up there's no reason to put it in 4wd in the first place... Exactly, sorry but that is someone who hasn't read the operators manual, there is no need to do such a thing. I was instructed by our Landrover club experts how to use the 'engage four wheel drive red knob' or the 'low box' and when to disengage and have never had to 'unwind' the drive. Series Landrovers are two wheel drive in normal driving conditions, literally hit the big red knob if you get stuck and you instantly have four wheel drive, simples. Had my S2a for 24 years now, longer than any previous owner and it will be 50 years old this October. Dave Franks. P.S. And before the Landie I had a 1943 David Brown VAC1 tractor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2016 Dispite my skeptisim , I'm owned 7 Land Rover products , including 5 RRs of various types, a disco , and OMG a early K series , freelander, which was the greatest heap of junk I've ever owned The p5 was junk , Lucas electrics omg , the best was the bmw designed ford engined sports. ( well it lasted the longest ) So despite gearboxes failing , engines blowing up , funny electrics , air suspension siting on the ground , I kept buying new ones , I don't know what that says. I gave them all up , and bought a Nissan Navara crew cab , that's been perfect, I mean other then a replacement prop shaft , timing chain issues and rear drive half shafts issues ( oh and the air con has just packed up) The big thing with the later RR and discos is that the 4x4 system is now essentially a function of the ABS system and in sustained use , overheats and drops out , leaving you with no 4x4 as its all open diffs The best system I've ever driven was the Jeep Grand Cherokee with Quadra-Trak III , all geroter based hydraulic lockup On all diffs, a true unlimited operation all wheel drive system. My wife owned an x-trail , she loved it , in the snow I kept having to pull the xtrail out with the jeep GC They still have locking diffs but are now controlled electronically. My D2 has CDL and TC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2016 My cousin bought an air-portable at auction once, he got it dirt cheap, as a tank had reversed over on side of it..... He happened to be working at Vickers boatyard in Barrow, and they were allowed to make things from scrap in their lunchhour, so he made the side of the landie. What a beast. He also did a fair bit of off roading, for which he built some specials, basically the front ends of two chassis welded back to back, which allowed the engine to be in the back, much better for going around the lakes. My mate has two landies, the Beast (A 2a which was once a crew-cab and cherry picker) and a 110. Much fun is still had with them.... Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2016 Wet grass, about thirty years ago I had a weekend job driving a Bedford CF van for a lady who made preserves and chutneys to sell at various craft and agricultural shows. One weekend we went to the Essex show and on the Friday night before it had rained heavily. On the Saturday morning after unloading the van I went looking for somewhere to park the van and I found a patch of grass behind a marquee which I pulled on to. Then when I got out of the van I found there was about two inches of water covering the patch, the grass was three or four inches long. I attempted to drive off but as the van was empty the wheels could not get any grip. I then saw a dealer displaying Land Rovers nearby and went across and asked if they could tow me off the wet grass. Then we found that neither of us had a tow rope so one of the Land Rover salesman 'borrowed' a guy rope from one of the marquees. This done the trick but in the process the guy rope ended up stretched and couldn't be put back as it was. I found a better place to park the van, the concrete base of a demolished building. Where the stall was placed I could see the marquee from whence the guy rope had been borrowed and I could see one side slowly subsiding over the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Stuff and nonsense, around here pal! Many's the time that a regular car of any colour has simply pulled up and someone in entirely ordinary clothes has delivered something for us. If a 'proper' liveried LWB vehicle pulls up, great but it doesn't happen too often. We're hardly in the boondocks here, approximately halfway between two of the largest cities in the NW. The traction and 4WD, the most common problem with 4WD in a working environment is driving up and down steep slopes, or partly cross-slope (especially the latter). I regularly drive up and down gradients on pipeline spreads where the only course of action is to engage everything, take your feet off the pedals and run down against the engine braking. Driving along strongly cambered running tracks with slippery surfaces is also a common issue. The real point is that situations requiring 4WD in a working environment are quite unlike recreational situations, and construction situations are sometimes quite unlike farming situations. I haven't had to unwind the transmission on a Land Rover for years, because Series Landies are long since extinct in construction, an environment where they don't last three years. However the problem of giving 4WD vehicles to people who probably shouldn't be trusted with them is very much alive... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 Mine has marked its territory. About a gallon of ATF spilt over half a mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Here's one for the Landy lovers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Mine has marked its territory. About a gallon of ATF spilt over half a mile. "It's a feature of the marque Sir, inbuilt by skilled British craftsmen" And one here for the well heeled enthusiast, bit of T Cut and soon back to showroom condition. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Series-One-Diesel-88-CHASSIS-NUMBER-ONE-1957-first-one-off-production-/231831870957?hash=item35fa419ded:g:nJ4AAOSwGotWrmi0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 "It's a feature of the marque Sir, inbuilt by skilled British craftsmen" And one here for the well heeled enthusiast, bit of T Cut and soon back to showroom condition. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Series-One-Diesel-88-CHASSIS-NUMBER-ONE-1957-first-one-off-production-/231831870957?hash=item35fa419ded:g:nJ4AAOSwGotWrmi0 3 too many 0s on that one. Should be getting mine repaired tomorrow as it is stuck at work with an empty gearbox. When trying to park was thinking. "Broken flexi plate?" "A clutch gone?" Nope lost the ATF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 Only three too many? How much is chassis plate? Can you buy a new 88'' chassis anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welly Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 During tea break today, someone told me about a chap who went to an auction and won the bid on what he thought was a Land Rover for £1500. It turned out he had bought 15 Land Rovers and a pile of spares for that sum!! I think the chap had to hire a lorry at short notice to shift them out of the auction place. He did manage to sell the lot off eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 During tea break today, someone told me about a chap who went to an auction and won the bid on what he thought was a Land Rover for £1500. It turned out he had bought 15 Land Rovers and a pile of spares for that sum!! I think the chap had to hire a lorry at short notice to shift them out of the auction place. He did manage to sell the lot off eventually. Did he make a profit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Did he make a profit? Probably not, this must have happened in the 1970s... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Probably not, this must have happened in the 1970s... He probably needed one to take his dead grannie rolled in a carpet on the roof.... Joking apart, I used to go to auctions regularly in tne days before eBay changed them irrevocably for the worse, and I never saw any such event take place. Auctioneers know better. Any auction containing a batch of Land Rovers (and 15 Land Rovers would be SEVERAL lorry loads, plus the crane for the spares) would be attended by professionals whose business is to know such things. They might go relatively cheaply, if the market was soft or the traders didn't want that number, but urban legends are just that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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