RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Pre Beeching rather than pre-raf, but about as much bare flesh as you are likely to see on a British poster: On the other hand, for the British weather I can't help that this is more appropriate: (and one of my favourite posters of all time). Meanwhile, could this be adapted for Castle Aching? Jonathan Edited July 17, 2017 by corneliuslundie 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 Pre Beeching rather than pre-raf, but about as much bare flesh as you are likely to see on a British poster: br barmouth.jpg On the other hand, for the British weather I can't help that this is more appropriate: Intercity monica.jpg (and one of my favourite posters of all time). Meanwhile, could this be adapted for Castle Aching? Cromer.jpg Jonathan I've been to Barmouth - in August - and was wearing my kagool. For well-wrapped-up pre-Raphaelites, you can't beat The Last of England - another from Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery. In other transport news, there are reports of severe overcrowding in the 8:15 from Tonbridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) The Cromer poster, Would have a few more trees behind her these days, you wouldn't see Cromer now, and there should be a line of beach huts below. I suspect a lot of artistic licence even then. I like the poster though... Edited July 17, 2017 by TheQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I've been to Barmouth - in August - and was wearing my kagool. For well-wrapped-up pre-Raphaelites, you can't beat The Last of England - another from Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery. In other transport news, there are reports of severe overcrowding in the 8:15 from Tonbridge. When we went to Barmouth, there was an icy wind blowing in off the sea in, yes, August. We were camping on Shell Island, a bit up the coast and several tents had been blown down in a gale the previous night..... (The current weather forecast for Barmouth is "sunny, max 18deg C, though varying degrees of downpour are forecast from Wednesday onward, typical!) You have to admire the optimism of British seaside poster artists! Getting back to railways, when we were at Shell Island, the Halt at Llanbedr still had a GWR pagoda roof hut, I just looked on Google Earth and its been replaced by a bus shelter construction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 Pre Beeching rather than pre-raf, but about as much bare flesh as you are likely to see on a British poster: br barmouth.jpg On the other hand, for the British weather I can't help that this is more appropriate: Intercity monica.jpg (and one of my favourite posters of all time). Meanwhile, could this be adapted for Castle Aching? Cromer.jpg Jonathan Ah, the lovely Monica of blessed memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 I feel that this is probably more normal wear on the Drier Side of Britain: Jonathan 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 "Getting back to railways, when we were at Shell Island, the Halt at Llanbedr still had a GWR pagoda roof hut, I just looked on Google Earth and its been replaced by a bus shelter construction." Where's the "Oh dear" button when you need it? More precious railway heritage destroyed! Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 I feel that this is probably more normal wear on the Drier Side of Britain: East Coast Types poster.jpg Jonathan Looks like Pte Frazer in drag... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Looks like Pte Frazer in drag... Uncanny. Clearly, we're all doomed! Edited July 17, 2017 by Edwardian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I feel that this is probably more normal wear on the Drier Side of Britain: East Coast Types poster.jpg Jonathan Thats a bit of a slur, "The Scottish Fishwife. Travel cheaply by LNER"! As for the Pagoda shelter, it was a bit rusty when I last saw it, nearly 5 decades ago...... You know, it comes as a terrible shock when you work out how long ago it was when some things were experienced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 Thats a bit of a slur, "The Scottish Fishwife. Travel cheaply by LNER"! As for the Pagoda shelter, it was a bit rusty when I last saw it, nearly 5 decades ago...... You know, it comes as a terrible shock when you work out how long ago it was when some things were experienced. The residents of CA probably know what a Scottish Fishwife is, as these redoubtable dames tracked the fishing fleet down the east coast, and they are very interested in the idea of travelling cheaply. They might be a bit confused as to what is meant by "LNER", however. Those who have ventured into the Far West, even those who have sampled the new-fangled motor-trains, are unaware of what is meant by "pagoda" in the context of railway infrastructure. IIRC, the GW did not introduce them until 1907! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Denham Golf Club Halt, an extant station on the national network, has three pagodas, all in good order. Presumably Fraser did some sort of undercover work, keeping an eye out for spies landing on the east coast, in the lead up to WW2. A man of hidden depths. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted July 17, 2017 Author Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Denham Golf Club Halt, an extant station on the national network, has three pagodas, all in good order. Presumably Fraser did some sort of undercover work, keeping an eye out for spies landing on the east coast, in the lead up to WW2. A man of hidden depths. So, an undercover undertaker? One East Coast Type is almost on topic, though, perhaps, he should look where he is going as the red-sailed craft crosses his bow: Edited July 17, 2017 by Edwardian 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted July 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 17, 2017 I don't know where the Artist got that Broads Wherry man from. They the wherry man wouldn't have been seen dead in a white capped navel type hat. The Private owner of a wherry yacht maybe. Ah now tha's true wherryman. or with family, 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Work begins on Manchester's Crossrail project. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 So, an undercover undertaker? One East Coast Type is almost on topic, though, perhaps, he should look where he is going as the red-sailed craft crosses his bow: Not just that, but he's got the wind on his starboard quarter and if he's pushing his tiller over like that, he's going to gybe sooner or later. I know a wherry doesn't have a boom, but its got a whacking great block at the end of the sail and if that comes flying across its going to catch him one whilst he's gurning at whoevers behind him! (Probably a female Hullabaloo posing on a cabin top....) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 work1536.jpg Work begins on Manchester's Crossrail project. Probably already queueing for a seat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2017 It's good to see that Brunel is in charge of the project. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) It's good to see that Brunel is in charge of the project. Jonathan The two apparent idlers on the right are portraits of Thomas Carlyle and Frederic Maurice - they're supposed to represent the intellectual aspect of work - or as the Famous Eccles would have it, 'brainworkers'. The toffs on horseback are merely representative. The various dogs offer commentary on the class system. Edited July 18, 2017 by Compound2632 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 "On rising from the workbench, after cutting out hundreds of paper-print cottages." 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) "On rising from the workbench, after cutting out hundreds of paper-print cottages." Would the use of a Silhouette cutter run counter to William Morris' belief in the value of handcraft labour? I think one knows where he would stand on the spectrum of RTR to scratchbuilding! Edited July 18, 2017 by Compound2632 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) ...in the meantime, I'm afraid, it's back to Pre-Raff of the day....: I wish to make a Complaint! We are currently enduring considerably more than one Pre-Raff of the day. It is 'a truth universally acknowledged' that many (usually rather) late Victorian men indulged in Pre-Raffs because of the explicit soft porn. Far be it from me to accuse gents clicking into this thread...but could posters at least include the model's names (e.g. how many times has Elizabeth Siddal or Maria Zambaco featured?) even if they are unable to provide contact details. dh Very late edit: In a desperate attempt to haul this thread back OT, I append here Jeanie Deans's visit to Effie Deans (by R I Herdman 1829-1888); a scene from Sir Walter Scott's 'The Heart of Midlothian' novel and (to please compound) the long time runner - sometimes in two directions at once - of the 2pm Scotch Express ex Euston. Edited July 18, 2017 by runs as required 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted July 18, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 18, 2017 I wish to make a Complaint! We are currently enduring considerably more than one Pre-Raff of the day. It is 'a truth universally acknowledged' that many (usually rather) late Victorian men indulged in Pre-Raffs because of the explicit soft porn. Far be it from me to accuse gents clicking into this thread...but could posters at least include the model's names (e.g. how many times has Elizabeth Siddal or Maria Zambaco featured?) even if they are unable to provide contact details. dh Fair point and certainly the high ideals of the Brotherhood did degenerate into the sort of thing you're talking about in the works of such Leighton and Godward. I've tried to raise the tone with Ford Maddox Brown's Work and The Last of England and reference to William Morris' scratchbuilding ethic but confess I was guilty of Rossetti's The Beloved. But remember, if it isn't this, it'll be JA again soon enough... No, not that one... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Actually, there is a strange connection between Morris and railway modelling....... Henry Greenly thought-up the idea of a "frieze" to go behind layouts, in about 1909, and he enveigled a chap who lived along the road from him in Watford to make a series commercially, for sale via Bassett Lowke. The chap concerned was a craft wallpaper artist/maker, seemingly in the Morris-mould. K 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmditch Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Not just that, but he's got the wind on his starboard quarter and if he's pushing his tiller over like that, he's going to gybe sooner or later. I know a wherry doesn't have a boom, but its got a whacking great block at the end of the sail and if that comes flying across its going to catch him one whilst he's gurning at whoevers behind him! (Probably a female Hullabaloo posing on a cabin top....) Please excuse a mid-day comment when I should be working on the railway. The red-sailed boat is clearly on port-tack, and I suspect is probably on a broad reach (ie with the wind over it's port quarter.) In which the case the inattentive steersman (who is obviously on starboard tack) is is probably on a close reach, despite the apparent position of the luff on his mainsail. Perhaps he is just bearing-off a touch to gather speed so he can luff round the stern of the red-sailed boat as it crosses his bows? Or perhaps as you say he is just posing in a vain attempt to impress someone! That's it. Back to the soldering iron on this hot day! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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