Nearholmer Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) Thinking about the second of your chosen musical numbers, would it be permitted to coach small children to sing those lyrics these days? I've got a feeling that it might not. And, perhaps Eliza Doolittle didn't marry Freddy, but married up, becoming Lady Erstwhile, which would explain her familiarity with "lovable cockney" routines and, perhaps, make her a former pal of Nancy. Edit: the Lord of the Rings musical: brilliant! Can we have some more, please. PS: just realised that in 'My Fair Lady', Freddy was played by Jeremy Brett, whose version of Holmes seems to me to be entirely suited to CA. Edited October 4, 2017 by Nearholmer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 The Cromer Layout is by Chris Turnbull http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74024-cromer-modern-image-o-gauge/ The layout also features working SPADs which of course everyone wants to see working. Don 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 The Cromer Layout ..... also features working SPADs which of course everyone wants to see working. Don That does seem pretty unlikely, to be fair ...... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 When I first read Lord of the Rings I was reading the bit in Moria with Floyd's Set the Controls to the Heart of the Sun playing. Gloin's recital of the poem about Durin fitted nicely to the music. Fitted well with the Story but not quite your usual Musical stuff. Don 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 When I first read Lord of the Rings I was reading the bit in Moria with Floyd's Set the Controls to the Heart of the Sun playing. Gloin's recital of the poem about Durin fitted nicely to the music. Fitted well with the Story but not quite your usual Musical stuff. Don I'll have to try that. Personally, I find this one hard to beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2017 One of my all time favourite bit of music is from the films of Tolkiens books https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_R7CBmDAE 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 One of my all time favourite bit of music is from the films of Tolkiens books https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_R7CBmDAE I rather like the music from the old BBC Radio adaptation, with John Le Mesurier as Bilbo, Ian Holm as Frodo and Bill Nighy as Sam! It was a nice link that Ian Holm played Frodo in the Jackson films. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 I rather like the music from the old BBC Radio adaptation, with John Le Mesurier as Bilbo, Ian Holm as Frodo and Bill Nighy as Sam! It was a nice link that Ian Holm played Frodo in the Jackson films. Mixing up your halflings there Edwardian. Ian Holm played Bilbo. A nice link nevertheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 Mixing up your halflings there Edwardian. Ian Holm played Bilbo. A nice link nevertheless. Yes, that is what I meant! Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 The only extensions that I have ever seen photos of were of the wagon turntable for Dunrobin. When the first one was replaced with the new one, the turntable was extended by the expedient of just fitting longer rails, so that they overhung the end of the table by about 18". Same as I said 24 hours ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 National Lampoon produced a spoof book, called “Bored of the Rings”, which iirc had “Di1do Bugg3r” as the main protagonist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2017 Same as I said 24 hours ago... That does happen on here - things move on so fast (in a random sort of way) that it's next to impossible to keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 shurely this is paradoxical advice ? dh Not really, or at least not quite.There are plenty of individual stations which had a (usually) single oddity about them: Ashburton’s lack of a signal box, or at least proper interlocking; Wells on Sea’s goods shed at the back of the engine shed, accessed by a shed road generally only used overnight; Wells in Somerset with its adjoining stations, with the goods yard of one intersected by the main route of the other, etc. The point is, it is possible to take some features on the “prototype for everything” example, plus invocation of rule 1, but to have them all mixed together on one layout in an attempt to cram a quart into a pint pot would produce a poor caricature of a railway, rather than a model railway or even a model of a railway. (Not the same thing!) To create a credible model railway requires knowledge of prototype practice, and an understanding of why and how exceptions arise. That’s quite a demanding requirement. Building a model of a real railway location might sometimes be easier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The point is, it is possible to take some features on the “prototype for everything” example, plus invocation of rule 1, but to have them all mixed together on one layout in an attempt to cram a quart into a pint pot would produce a poor caricature of a railway, rather than a model railway or even a model of a railway. (Not the same thing!) To create a credible model railway requires knowledge of prototype practice, and an understanding of why and how exceptions arise. That’s quite a demanding requirement. Building a model of a real railway location might sometimes be easier! Someone with a good knowledge of prototype practice, who is also a very good modeller, may well be able to create an entertaining, amusing and effective caricature by mixing them all together! Go on someone, give it a go . I'm saving an entertaining bit of prototype for everything for my Cameo Competition entry. No one will believe it, as it defies logic, but I have a photo to prove it . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Harrison Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 That does seem pretty unlikely, to be fair ...... SPADs wouldn't fit with CA. They weren't introduced until 1916. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 SPADs wouldn't fit with CA. They weren't introduced until 1916. Well flying (well, hopping) a powered heavier than air aircraft had only been tried just over a year before CA is set..... Of course, the aeroplane was not invented by the Wright brothers, but by a Yorkshireman in 1853. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 Of course, the aeroplane was not invented by the Wright brothers, but by a Yorkshireman in 1853.But he wanted to charge people to see it, and since it was being shown in Yorkshire, no one wanted to pay... (I should add that my wife is from Yorkshire, and she and her family are very generous.) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not 3 or 4 trains a week, but usually two trains a day, some loading to 880 tonnes and some 2200 Tonnes. They don't alf make the box shake! Andy G Thanks for the correction: I had no idea there was that much traffic. I had wondered about how much it cost to keep the line open for those movements, but that volume is *much* healthier than I'd thought. A few weeks back I was stuck at the level crossing gates at Middleton while they joined together a rather massively lengthy train. I hadn't worked out how much it was hauling. Thanks again. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 But he wanted to charge people to see it, and since it was being shown in Yorkshire, no one wanted to pay... (I should add that my wife is from Yorkshire, and she and her family are very generous.) Well, I'm 50% Yorkshire. When it declares independence, I reckon I could apply for a passport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2017 Well, I'm 50% Yorkshire.Does that mean that you would want to charge, or decline to pay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrkirtley800 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 As the saying goes, a Yorkshireman is very similar to a Scotsman, but far less generous. I might say, I am a fully paid up Yorkshireman and "generous" with it. Derek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 WHile we've rambled off to Middleton Towers, I went there donkeys years ago to see the narrow gauge operation, which used very chunky Motor Rail 60hp locos, several of which are now preserved at Leighton Buzzard. I confess that I thought it had closed altogether, but, to confirm what has been said, and consulting Real Time Trains, it turned out two trains today, one of 1600T and one of 1400T. I should have included it on my WNR bike tour! Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurenceb Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 One of my all time favourite bit of music is from the films of Tolkiens books https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y_R7CBmDAE Nice music, shame about the film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2017 Well flying (well, hopping) a powered heavier than air aircraft had only been tried just over a year before CA is set..... Of course, the aeroplane was not invented by the Wright brothers, but by a Yorkshireman in 1853. What about Elmer, the flying monk of Malmesbury?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eilmer_of_Malmesbury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2017 Thinking about the second of your chosen musical numbers, would it be permitted to coach small children to sing those lyrics these days? I've got a feeling that it might not. And, perhaps Eliza Doolittle didn't marry Freddy, but married up, becoming Lady Erstwhile, which would explain her familiarity with "lovable cockney" routines and, perhaps, make her a former pal of Nancy. Edit: the Lord of the Rings musical: brilliant! Can we have some more, please. PS: just realised that in 'My Fair Lady', Freddy was played by Jeremy Brett, whose version of Holmes seems to me to be entirely suited to CA. And of course Eliza's father moved up the social ladder to become a porter at Milford Junction... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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