brack Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Not sure how it could be the premier line in terms of antiquity - surely that'd be the S&D/NER/LNER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Wasn’t that a goods branch? Edited October 23, 2018 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Today I bunked off work and went here ... And saw quite a few Midlandy things and something Welsh. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Ooo, Very nice! I love the various Taff Vale 0-6-2T's. Did you see a diseasally (should be petrol!) North Easterny thing? Edited October 23, 2018 by sem34090 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 Another good place for restored pre-Grouping carriages! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Oi!!! Oil 'ave yer yet, oil 'ave yer! Lads... set the terriers on 'im... Wot's yer Problem? If you read the political novels of Anthony Trollope, you'll get a sense of the ubiquity of the LNWR. LNWR, incorporating: Liverpool & Manchester Railway - the fist inter-city passenger railway; Grand Junction Railway - the first trunk line; London & Birmingham - the first line to connect London with the important bits of the country; LNWR, the principal route to Scotland, Ireland, and New York - the importance of the Irish traffic in the 19th century should not be underestimated. LNWR, one of only two companies to own lines in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales (the other being the Midland, of course). LNWR, the pioneer of the use of steel in railway engineering. LNWR, the pioneer of water troughs. By most measures, the LNWR tops the league table of pre-Grouping companies. (Exceptions are the size of its goods wagon fleet, third to the Midland and the North Eastern; possibly also goods and mineral traffic revenue.) Beethovenian in its classical grandeur. And I'm an out-and-out Midland enthusiast. Edited October 23, 2018 by Compound2632 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) Ooo, Very nice! I love the various Taff Vale 0-6-2T's. Did you see a diseasally (should be petrol!) North Easterny thing? You mean this? I was privileged to see round this and then to be shown around his vintage carriage collection by Steve Middleton of Stately Trains, to whom go my thanks and appreciation. I should add that an absolutely superb job has been done on the restoration. A grand day out, indeed! Edited October 23, 2018 by Edwardian 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 Likely to be on Look North at 10:30 tonight - BBC1 - it made the lunchtime edition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2018 You mean this? I was privileged to see round this and then to be shown around his vintage carriage collection by Steve Middleton of Stately Trains, to whom go my thanks and appreciation. I should add that an absolutely superb job has been done on the restoration. A grand day out, indeed! We seem to be playing carriage restorer snap. Tony Lyster at Quainton Road spoke highly of Stephen Middleton. It's about 13 years since we had a holiday in Embsay but the L&Y directors' saloon was a hit with my then young children. I fear they'd be less impressed nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted October 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2018 Don, that's sad to hear about Stuart who has been a good friend to the British Railway Modellers of Australia. For many years he contributed an article every quarter for our journal "The Clearing House". If you are in contact with him, please pass on BRMA's good wishes. Brian |Tilbury is visiting him regularly so I have passed on your good wishes. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 We seem to be playing carriage restorer snap. Tony Lyster at Quainton Road spoke highly of Stephen Middleton. It's about 13 years since we had a holiday in Embsay but the L&Y directors' saloon was a hit with my then young children. I fear they'd be less impressed nowadays. This beauty of 1906 ... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 Some Lanky thriftiness in how the axleguards were done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 Some Lanky thriftiness in how the axleguards were done. I'd noticed that too - rather unusual on a bogie, if standard on a 4-wheeled wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Delightful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin S-C Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Beautiful depth of colours on that coach. A light patina of dirt seems to enhance the tones as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 GNoSR 6-wheel coach No.34. Built in the 1890s as a saloon, but rebuilt c.1911 as a 1st/3rd Lav. Composite, with internal corridor. Westinghouse fitted in GNoSR days. Restored 1999-2000. Note the attachment on the solebar, for ropes to enable horse shunting. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) GNoSR 6-wheel coach No.34. Built in the 1890s as a saloon, but rebuilt c.1911 as a 1st/3rd Lav. Composite, with internal corridor. Westinghouse fitted in GNoSR days. Restored 1999-2000. Note the attachment on the solebar, for ropes to enable horse shunting. Serendipity. The LNWR Inspection Saloon in the queue for restoration at Quainton Road is sitting on a 4-wheel underframe that Tony Lyster told me is reputed to be GNoSR but he said he didn't know what evidence there was for this claim. I did notice it had just such a cleat on its solebar, along with the cast W - indicating the location of the release cord for the Westinghouse brake, I presume. I don't know of any other company that equipped its passenger carriages for horse shunting (as opposed to passenger-rated stock such as horseboxes). I daresay examples will now pop up! Edited October 24, 2018 by Compound2632 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 Serendipity. The LNWR Inspection Saloon in the queue for restoration at Quainton Road is sitting on a 4-wheel underframe that Tony Lyster told me is reputed to be GNoSR but he said he didn't know what evidence there was for this claim. I did notice it had just such a cleat on its solebar, along with the cast W - indicating the location of the release cord for the Westinghouse brake, I presume. I don't know of any other company that equipped its passenger carriages for horse shunting (as opposed to passenger-rated stock such as horseboxes). I daresay examples will now pop up! Forgot I had a close-up. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 There's a lot of 1:1 modelling goes into restoring these carriages - the "kit" usually has parts missing... But at least there are often masters from which to reproduce such things as hooks and luggage rack supports. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brack Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 One of the ex RhB 4 wheelers on the blonay chamby has a photo album on the luggage rack showing images of the coach from its builders photo in 1904, running behind steam, electric, departmental use, decay, stripping and restoration. My friend (non enthusiast) found it fascinating. A good way to show how much effort has gone into a humble 4 wheel coach. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 When I was at Swansea University in the 1960s the Engineering Department used to give the students who were learning to make castings projects to produce parts for the Festiniog Railway. On one trip up there in a preserved bus we took a couple of boxes full. Jonathan 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 This I liked very much .... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 This I liked very much .... Did you check the underside of that chair? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 24, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2018 This I liked very much .... Looks a bit high. I think I'd need to stand on a chair (geddit?) to use that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Looks a bit high. I think I'd need to stand on a chair (geddit?) to use that... Depends whether you think it's intended for input or output! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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